Obvious tag?

Who cares? Democrat=Republican=higher taxes and less freedom.

Hillary's playing up a false angle for political gain? Shocking!

ScubaDude1960: Who cares? Democrat=Republican=higher taxes and less freedom.

Luckily, Nader is running!

ScubaDude1960: Who cares? Democrat=Republican=higher taxes and less freedom.

You're right. The world would be no worse if we had elected Gore over Bush.

Hillary's exit strategy will be to slam Obama over running a negative campaign, spreading lies about her policy positions and making a lot of pretty talk with no substance. And we'll get to sit back and laugh at her and watch her become a bit player in the senate instead of a party leader.

Good times.

The whole "style over substance" thing isn't so much that there is no substance, but rather than the substance isn't nearly as noteworthy as the style.

And Hillary is the last person to be making that attack.

That whole Rovian thing doesn't really play as well these days. Seen that play so many times lately, we're starting to pick up on it quicker.

I love how, in the midst of a presidential campaign, she demands that he stops...campaigning. No more speeches, no more big rallies, indeed.

She's an utterly dreadful candidate.

I also love how she was "honored" to be on the same stage as Obama and then a couple of days later she accuses him of running a "Rovian" campaign.

Did I say she's dreadful?

She's dreadful.

clearly the main stream media is lying, trying to protect their favorite candidate the empty suit baserock HUSSEIN obama.

they would cover his policy if he had any, instead they have to run stories like this and slam hillary instead. and of course this gets greenlit on fark, because all anyone does on fark is make the news media continue to pump out stories for obama or against clinton.

alright, i have to go, the leprechaun is telling me to burn things again.

Churchill2004 [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-24 05:35:32 PM
The whole "style over substance" thing isn't so much that there is no substance, but rather than the substance isn't nearly as noteworthy as the style.

And Hillary is the last person to be making that attack.


Well the LAST person who should be making that attack is McCain. Dude has ZERO platform beyond staying in iraq forever and keeping the bush tax cuts. He han't outlined his views on anything or how he would tackle any problem.

I can't believe he gets away with it. But hey, he has always admitted "the press is my base." THey don't question him at all...

Bill Frist: Well the LAST person who should be making that attack is McCain.

Again, no dispute here.

Anyone who isn't completely ignorant about politics knows that Obama's speeches have a lot more substance than any other candidate's at this point. I have no idea why that pathetic non-issue caught on even on. Then again, the only people I've seen say that are Ron Paul supporters, so that may correlate somehow.

Put another way...

Clinton: I got nuthin'

Hillary would be to the presidency what Leela was to Blernsball.

This is not working against Obama. He's not the candidate everyone is used to going up against. He doesn't go negative except to defend himself, he packs professional sports stadiums for things everyone else only needs a local convention hall for, he's drawing in people nobody else is even able to get to the voting booth, he's squeaky clean, and every time you attack him, he ends up stronger for it. This is not how candidates work, and nobody has any idea what to do about it but they better figure him out, and they better figure him out fast.

It'll be interesting if/when Obama goes against McCain on substance. I've never seen a less substantial campaign than McCain's. Outside of 100 years of war, what else does he have? Tax cuts? Judges? Does he have *any* economic or social ideas? How about foreign affairs with Europe and the UN? How about China? How about Africa?

Gosling: This is not working against Obama. He's not the candidate everyone is used to going up against. He doesn't go negative except to defend himself, he packs professional sports stadiums for things everyone else only needs a local convention hall for, he's drawing in people nobody else is even able to get to the voting booth, he's squeaky clean, and every time you attack him, he ends up stronger for it. This is not how candidates work, and nobody has any idea what to do about it but they better figure him out, and they better figure him out fast.

I think the only think which might rattle him is if someone is scummy enough to attack his daughters. I can see him going off if that were to happen. But you would have to be pure shiat to do that.

Hillary Clinton mocks Barack Obama (and his supporters) at a rally in Rhode Island today. (pops)

/sorry to keep posting this guys, just want to make sure everyone sees it.

I_Approve_Of_This_Message: Hillary Clinton mocks Barack Obama (and his supporters) at a rally in Rhode Island today. (pops)

/sorry to keep posting this guys, just want to make sure everyone sees it.

It's been greenlit - we'll all see it.

I_Approve_Of_This_Message: Hillary Clinton mocks Barack Obama (and his supporters) at a rally in Rhode Island today. (pops)


/sorry to keep posting this guys, just want to make sure everyone sees it.

By all means post it on every thread. For some reason the mainstream media isnt touching that clip with a 100 foot pole, farking cowards.

If that clip grows legs in the media then her career is over.

DamnYankees: I_Approve_Of_This_Message: Hillary Clinton mocks Barack Obama (and his supporters) at a rally in Rhode Island today. (pops)

/sorry to keep posting this guys, just want to make sure everyone sees it.

It's been greenlit - we'll all see it.

yay! gets popcorn ready.

Watch! As Hillary kicks the chair out from under her feet!
See! Hillary swing in the air as she hangs her own campaign!
Wonder! As Obama wins the November election!

You'd think the Clinton campaign would realize by now that attacks on Obama really don't hurt him at all. This man is teflon like no other.

Here's to hoping she goes all out at Tuesday's debate and goes down in flames.

DamnYankees:
I think the only think which might rattle him is if someone is scummy enough to attack his daughters. I can see him going off if that were to happen. But you would have to be pure shiat to do that.

Agreed, but if someone was stupid and desperate enough to go after Obama's daughters, he could respond with the biggest dickhead remark in the universe and he would still come out on top. Attacking family members that aren't involved in the campaign is thankfully still pretty much out of bounds.

HRC: You're not going to just wave a magic wand and have the special interests disappear...

Well, you're not going to continue to take money from the special interests (as HRC does, and as she states unequivocally that she will continue to do) and have the special interests disappear.

I think I'll vote for the fellow who wants to follow Option A.

potee: Agreed, but if someone was stupid and desperate enough to go after Obama's daughters, he could respond with the biggest dickhead remark in the universe and he would still come out on top. Attacking family members that aren't involved in the campaign is thankfully still pretty much out of bounds.

I dunno. Rush made fun of Chelsea when she was a young girl - so did McCain, for that matter.

Glad to hear about the greenlight! Today fark, tomorrow the mainstream media. I hope it's the big story when I wake up tomorrow. It will be fun to watch the Clinton surrogates try to shake it off.

Echoic: You'd think the Clinton campaign would realize by now that attacks on Obama really don't hurt him at all. This man is teflon like no other.

Here's to hoping she goes all out at Tuesday's debate and goes down in flames.

I don't think he's teflon. I think its that if you're accusations are BS, they won't stick. I think of a Teflon President as one who can shrug off legitimate criticism with charm. The stuff Hillary is spewing is just nonsense, and wouldn't work no matter who she attacked with it. Obama being a pretty decent guy just makes it all the more sweet.

Gosling: This is not how candidates work, and nobody has any idea what to do about it but they better figure him out, and they better figure him out fast.

Hmm...have they ever had a problem such as this in the past? If so, how did they ever solve it? Let's reflect on the following images while pondering this:

Thanks for posting the video. That biatch.

Echoic: You'd think the Clinton campaign would realize by now that attacks on Obama really don't hurt him at all. This man is teflon like no other.

Here's to hoping she goes all out at Tuesday's debate and goes down in flames.

Well, taking into account that nothing Hillary Clinton has done has worked. Negative campaigning is all she has left.

Technically, she's making Obama a stronger candidate at the cost of her own political career.

DamnYankees: I don't think he's teflon. I think its that if you're accusations are BS, they won't stick. I think of a Teflon President as one who can shrug off legitimate criticism with charm. The stuff Hillary is spewing is just nonsense, and wouldn't work no matter who she attacked with it. Obama being a pretty decent guy just makes it all the more sweet.

You're right, teflon may be the wrong word because nothing leveled at him has even been legitimate thusfar. I think that if the race was between Clinton and Edwards and Clinton dropped a line like the 'change you can xerox' on Edwards, it wouldn't have got such a negative reaction.

Like you're saying above, Chelsea could be attacked because the Clintons were seen as mortal enemies. Right-wingers can laugh along with that because they see Bill and Hillary as someone they can demonize. I think if they tried that on Obama, it would go down like a lead balloon. The thing about Obama is he's not polarizing enough for those kind of attacks to work.

The general will be interesting if Obama gets the nomination. McCain can't attack Obama hard because of the above and his race, and Obama can't attack McCain because McCain's a war hero (not that he would anyway). This may certainly be one of the more gentle general elections, although maybe I'm just being naive.

Unright: Well, taking into account that nothing Hillary Clinton has done has worked. Negative campaigning is all she has left.

Yeah, I can't think of any better course of action for her at this time. Most people would just bow out when it comes to this.

And now it's back up.

Never mind.

Boy, that biatch is spinning out of control...I think her head may explode between now and the primaries.

DamnYankees: Rush made fun of Chelsea when she was a young girl - so did McCain, for that matter.

As did Wayne and Garth on SNL, as I recall.

Obama is Change.

Hillary is that other C word.

Cyborg77: Obama is Change.

Hillary is that other C word.

Crazy?
Conceited?
Collapsing?

Or did you mean the OTHER other C word?

Cyborg77: Obama is Change.

Hillary is that other C word.

Sea Ward?

/that record sucked ass
//so is her strategy

molineskytown
As did Wayne and Garth on SNL, as I recall.

They categorized her as a girl that was so ugly at the time that by the time she matured, she'd be prettiest of all.

The jury is out.

I_Approve_Of_This_Message: Hillary Clinton mocks Barack Obama (and his supporters) at a rally in Rhode Island today. (pops)

/sorry to keep posting this guys, just want to make sure everyone sees it.

Holy crap. I wonder if when Chelsea was growing up she sat her down and said, "Honey, don't bother having dreams, don't bother hoping that you can change the world. Instead, just find yourself a meal ticket man, marry him, and stick by him no matter what he does with cigars and interns, because that's the only way that anyone accomplishes anything in this world."

And then I imagine she stomped on Chelsea's puppy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

as someone who'd like to see obama win I'd prefer hillary take another go at her attack barrack to win strategy. it's worked so well.

attack

obama gains

attack

obama gains

gee, maybe I need attack harder?

obama gains

I know, it must be that I'm not attacking hard enough

obama gains.

/her campaign sucks so bad it's made a lot of people realize they don't want her to win.

peachpicker: HRC: You're not going to just wave a magic wand and have the special interests disappear...

Well, you're not going to continue to take money from the special interests (as HRC does, and as she states unequivocally that she will continue to do) and have the special interests disappear.

I think I'll vote for the fellow who wants to follow Option A.

Does it involve a turnip?

I_Approve_Of_This_Message

clinton's anti-hope campaign.

if your opponent latches onto a theme like 'hope' any idiot would realize that the proper counter to that is NOT 'no hope'.

bad form. shoulda talked policy, stayed positive.

CheetahOlivetti: Does it involve a turnip?

EVERY cunning plan involves a turnip...

Need I post the remastered Julius Caesar reference again?

Nothing beats clear and direct communication. Clinton is trying desperately to show strength through anger.
You know who else tried that tactic?


"You talkin' to ME?"


/the irony....