She went to prison for giving a 13 year old boy a hug?

"Causing the back of a boy's head to be placed against the clothed chest of a 23-year-old counselor is qualitatively different from causing a 12-year-old boy to place his tongue or his penis in the family dog's anus...."


Huh? Where'd the dog come from???

10-2? Don't jury decisions have to be unanimous?

aimtastic: in the family dog's anus

The Aristocrats!

Things like this wouldn't happen if judges would stop committing perjury by telling jurors that they have to vote guilty if the facts are compelling enough. No jury, under any circumstances, is legally required to convict. Their job is to judge not only the facts of the case, but also judge the law itself.

to keep things in perspective, in saudi arabia she'd only get 50 lashes.

A couple of clarifications subby. She was 23 at the time of the incident and they also accuse her of sexual relations with a 17 year old. He and the 13 year old have denied anything ever happened and they still deny it. They say it's crazy and the only think they have is the world of another counselor that she even did give him that hug. The one guy changed his story on the stand. The police were pissed off at the Boys and Girls Club because they weren't letting the police be as active as they wanted to be whatever the hell that means.

What better way to get back at them than finding out one of their counselors is molesting the kids. I can't believe you can be a sex offender because of a hug and hair tussle. I just hugged my kids in the kitchen before sitting down at the computer. I had clothes on and they are about chest high.....Oh dear lord I've just become a sex offender! I even told them I love them and was proud of how they are doing in school. That's got to be contributing to the delinquency or something.

RobertBruce: 10-2? Don't jury decisions have to be unanimous?

Yeah, I'm really confused by that line. But I'm at least as confused by this...

As Gartlan wrote in his request to the Supreme Court, citing a hypothetical case: "Causing the back of a boy's head to be placed against the clothed chest of a 23-year-old counselor is qualitatively different from causing a 12-year-old boy to place his tongue or his penis in the family dog's anus.... The conduct in this case must be one of the mildest, most technical forms of 'sexual abuse' that one could contemplate."

That's what pops into that guy's head for a hypothetical situation? wtf? "Well, it'd be different if they made the kid bang the family dog in the ass and give it a rimjob..."

patrick767: That's what pops into that guy's head for a hypothetical situation? wtf? "Well, it'd be different if they made the kid bang the family dog in the ass and give it a rimjob..."

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I hope the judge was referring to a recent case in which that actually happened, instead of just pulling something out of his fantas... er... imagination.

Interesting. Given the frivolous things men have been registered for, suddenly it's a woman and now it's a big deal.

aimtastic: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I hope the judge was referring to a recent case in which that actually happened, instead of just pulling something out of his fantas... er... imagination.

TFA said it was a "hypothetical case".

This is one on the primary reasons why, within the next generation, there will be no more boy's and girls clubs, girl or boy scouts, or any volunteer organization dealing with the welfare of children. Politicians use fear and hyperbole (nothing new) to get ballot measures like this passed, and the sheep are too stupid to realized they're being farked.

Our children need us, and there will be no one there for them... I know I've refrained from joining such organizations because of this, and don't even go near other peoples' kids (and I don't allow them near me) unless their parent is in the room. Being a teacher these days must be hell, especially in the lower grades, where kids are more "huggy"... no thank you.

Judges are placed in their positions to judge. Let them do it and stop tying their hands.

patrick767: TFA said it was a "hypothetical case".

Well, then that's just farked up.

meekychuppet: Interesting. Given the frivolous things men have been registered for, suddenly it's a woman and now it's a big deal.

That. And what about the e-mails saying she loved him and breaking a pretty important rule by spending time alone with him. I think she used very poor judgment, but something else is probably going on here. Too many men have been convicted on truly false claims, and now women are all up in arms because of what is clearly more than nothing. Don't let this evil criminal move in next to me!!!

Let her be a scapegoat if that's what it takes to change some of the asinine sex-offender rules in this country.

rewind2846: This is one on the primary reasons why, within the next generation, there will be no more boy's and girls clubs, girl or boy scouts, or any volunteer organization dealing with the welfare of children. Politicians use fear and hyperbole (nothing new) to get ballot measures like this passed, and the sheep are too stupid to realized they're being farked.

Our children need us, and there will be no one there for them... I know I've refrained from joining such organizations because of this, and don't even go near other peoples' kids (and I don't allow them near me) unless their parent is in the room. Being a teacher these days must be hell, especially in the lower grades, where kids are more "huggy"... no thank you.

I agree, the stuff I did when I was young like Boy Scouts and church youth groups would never fly today. I was never molested or treated poorly. When I was in middle school I went to canada for two weeks with the Boy Scouts and slept in a tent with 4 other boys and a scout master. They did it that way so we wouldnt stay up all night messing around and not get any sleep, now days that a law suit waiting to happen. Its going to end up hurting kids in the long run, they will be so afraid and worried about being kidnapped or molested that they will have problems learning how to trust.

"Kevin Mannix, the original Measure 11 backer, calls Campbell's move to override the minimum sentence "absolutely unacceptable," saying the correct path would be to ask the governor for clemency."

Yeah because, you know, depending on someone ELSE to be merciful always pans out.

The moral of the story is never go near a child under any circumstances, ever.

A lot of kids could probably use a positive adult influence in their lives, a male one, specifically. I'll be damned if I'm gonna put myself out there in this kind of environment, though.

Sorry, kids.

i'm shocked that cops would harass people over a grudge, that never happens.

Rodriguez's conviction destroyed her career as a social worker. A registered sex offender as a result, she's now living in Spokane with her parents and working as a barista.

I don't think she has any right to complain. Going from being a Social Worker to being a Lawyer is pretty much a move up.

Living in Spokane? Yeah that does suck.

How in the world did the family dog's anus get in on all this?

ScubaDude1960: Things like this wouldn't happen if judges would stop committing perjury by telling jurors that they have to vote guilty if the facts are compelling enough. No jury, under any circumstances, is legally required to convict. Their job is to judge not only the facts of the case, but also judge the law itself.

Thank you for a concise summary of Jury Nullification.

You're completely wrong, however.

T.M.S.
I don't think she has any right to complain. Going from being a Social Worker to being a Lawyer is pretty much a move up.

Living in Spokane? Yeah that does suck.

Barista: one who has acquired some level of expertise in the preparation of espresso-based coffee drinks.

I do agree about Spokane.

rewind2846: Barista: one who has acquired some level of expertise in the preparation of espresso-based coffee drinks.

I think he was trying to make a funny - look up Barrister

The way your sex offense laws are structured in the US, it's amazing that anyone enters the child care, education, or social services fields willingly.

aimtastic: place his tongue or his penis in the family dog's anus

Finally, a hot 27 year-old woman is given a sentence equivocal to a man's sentence

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

torch:
I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Gah! Just when I was sure no one had commented on that.

I might say something about it anyway, I'm not sure.

Asclepius

I think he was trying to make a funny - look up Barrister

In the building where I work, if you call someone who works at starbucks a lawyer, they'll piss in your latte...

TFDA - The Family Dog's Anus.

Should grazing a boy's head with your breasts get you six years in the slammer?

Depends. Which head?

If this is what it is, and nothing more.. hell, even if it is a little more..
everyone from the prosecution team to the judge to the jury ought to be drug out and shot for ruining someones life and reputation over something this insignificant.

Even if she kissed him on the cheek for doing well in school, i have no damn problem with this. who the fark has a problem with this anyhow? Pulled his head into her chest.. woop de farking do.
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Rodriguez saw the boy and his family almost daily, and admits she broke club rules by spending time alone with him. But she denies any sexual relationship.

I spent time alone with a few staff members from the Boys and Girls club, and it was for some mentoring..seriously. They were more than just people that handed out foosballs and ping pong paddles. Hell, I know had it not been for the staff members at my B&G club, I wouldn't be nearly the success that I am today.

The only way to make it through life without ridiculous shiat like this is to never ever ever touch another person ever.

You and a girl get drunk and have sex, oh now it's rape.
You give a kid a hug, that's sexual assault.

This planet is FINISHED.

I stopped in here for the talk about the tongue in a dog's anus.

/was not disappointed.

I'm a Puritan from the US circa 1792, so naturally I'm getting a...

I like how clicking on the picture does nothing but gray out your entire browser window so you have to close it.

Willamette Week, Portland's #3 (and dropping) newspaper.

I like how America has Sharia law, now. It makes Fark all sparkly

dickkead: aimtastic: place his tongue or his penis in the family dog's anus

If it was unremarkable prior to insertion, what is it afterwards?

Obligatory

5 min to connect on 6Meg DSL is insane then when you click on the pic (like DrForrester said)grays out your whole screen

rewind2846: This is one on the primary reasons why, within the next generation, there will be no more boy's and girls clubs, girl or boy scouts, or any volunteer organization dealing with the welfare of children.

And yet again we move closer to the "bring a lawyer with you to get at date" world of Cherry 2000.



/or the "sex scene" in Demolition Man if you prefer

Like being in Salem

If the charges are true, six years in jail are the least that should happen. That 13-year-old child is undoubtedly traumatized for life, and is far too young to ever enjoy having his head slowly rubbed first across one firm, perky breast, and then another firm, perky breast, the soft give of each nipple lapping at his cheeks, as he experiences the contours of her gravity-defying bulbs of pleasure.

rewind2846: This is one on the primary reasons why, within the next generation, there will be no more boy's and girls clubs, girl or boy scouts, or any volunteer organization dealing with the welfare of children.

That's my fear as well. Having served as a Cub Scout leader for 3 1/2 years, I am concerned that the missteps of a few stupid people will deny young men and women the chance to learn and grown as leaders.

Of our many rules is one that we cannot even close the door in a room if we are the only adult with children. That makes it tough when other kids are running in the halls or making faces at those in the room.

in the family dog's anus

Now, that's remarkable.

/Jack Benny cheek slap.

Another example illustrating why you should never even touch a child that isn't yours. I'm so paranoid, a kid could be hit by a car and lying in a pool of his own blood, in desperate need of first aid, and I will just step right over him and keep walking. My luck, if I did help, the cops would show up on the scene and haul me off because they thought it looked like I was enjoying administering CPR to the kid.

If your child or anyone's child needs my help it is not going to happen. I don't care what the situation is, seriously. The last thing I need is someone interpreting something I did as being wrong involving a child.

I don't even answer the door if little kids knock on the door with their fund raising activities. If they have a parent with them then I will answer but other than that, hell no.

If you think this is too extreme then you're living in la la land and something like this article will happen to you.

MadSkillz: The only way to make it through life without ridiculous shiat like this is to never ever ever touch another person ever.

You and a girl get drunk and have sex, oh now it's rape.
You give a kid a hug, that's sexual assault.

This planet is FINISHED.

Nah, just the American part of it. I can't imagine that other countries besides the US have a system as farked up as ours. At this point working with kids is riskier than fighting fires or taunting dynamite monkeys.

rewind2846: Judges are placed in their positions to judge. Let them do it and stop tying their hands.


Mandatory minimums: Helping take the justice out of the justice system since their inception.

Gwendolyn - I can't believe you can be a sex offender because of a hug and hair tussle.

It makes sense if you subscribe to the logic that you can be a sex offender for peeing in a parking lot.

Over here in Engerland, I had 4 years of first school before moving to a differently run middle school, and at the end of the first 4 years, at age 9, I went to my old first year teacher to say goodbye, and she gave me a kiss on the cheek. It was nice. This was only 9 years ago and now that's staturory rape.

We're screwed.