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(TBO) Stupid Connoisseurs complain newer wines have too much alcohol, confirming what everyone suspected about wine connoisseurs   (www2.tbo.com) divider line 87
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Saborlas [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 12:41:08 PM  
They're not drunk enough?

 
Coolhaus [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 12:43:54 PM  
Anybody who spits good wine into a cup is suspect.

 
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 01:06:40 PM  
i210.photobucket.com

This looks like a job for Paul GiaBOTti!

 
Vic Sage 2008-02-23 01:16:23 PM  
Wine is for sissies or the French.

Real men drink Imperial Stout/Porter.

 
rocinante721 2008-02-23 02:04:38 PM  
www.dogfish.com

18%+ abv, baby!!!

/buy 'em; age 'em
//my 2001 vintage is my pride & joy

 
Katie98_KT 2008-02-23 02:26:00 PM  
wow. idiots. more alcohol by volume for me please!

 
Prank Call of Cthulhu [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-02-23 02:54:12 PM  
That they're more interested in the complexities and nuances of flavor than about getting drunk?

 
NotWithoutAsswelts 2008-02-23 02:55:27 PM  
www.bumwine.com
15% ABV

 
Smellvin 2008-02-23 02:56:17 PM  
So... liking the taste of an alcoholic beverage more than its intoxicating affect makes one stupid?

 
macaddict0 2008-02-23 02:57:35 PM  
Vic Sage: Wine is for sissies or the French.

Real men drink Imperial Stout/Porter.


REAL MEN drink both.

Sometimes the point is to get drunk. Sometimes the point is to have a nice drink with a meal. Usually the point is a mixture of the two. Good beer and good wine can fill both roles nicely.

/note: I have no idea who actually decides what a "real" man is.
//According to at least one chevy's back windshield real men love chevys and Jesus

 
Get Lost 2008-02-23 02:58:59 PM  
Once you open the wine bottle, you gotta finishhhh it. Can't let the ambiance dissipate into the air.

/WINO'S choice. After rubbing alcohol..
/Is there 'light wine' out there for your delicate mid-drift?

 
Raging Thespian [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 02:59:46 PM  
Smellvin: So... liking the taste of an alcoholic beverage more than its intoxicating affect makes one stupid?

You really hit the nail on the head actually.

/What's the word?
//www.bumwine.com

 
cardoso [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 03:01:20 PM  
+1, subby. Great headline

 
galleech 2008-02-23 03:02:05 PM  
As a crossover craft beer drinker, I don't get the whole less is more thing. While I do like the occasional pilsner, I usually buy much higher gravity styles. In wine the problem is even worse, many lower alcohol wines just taste weak to me.

I also don't understand that whole spitting into the cup thing, part of the taste involves how it goes down and any aftertastes.

 
Oldiron_79 2008-02-23 03:02:36 PM  
France Surrenders!

 
knucklebreather 2008-02-23 03:02:59 PM  
All I need to know about wine connoisseurs is that $4 bottles of wine, in blind tests, are rated about the same as the $50+ stuff. But once you know the price of course one is great and the other sucks...

 
Burrito 2008-02-23 03:04:21 PM  
"One definition of the "right" alcohol level is if two people can finish a bottle and "wish there was a little bit more," said Dunn. "You don't do that with a 15.5 percent or 16 percent alcohol wine," he added. "You'd be lying on the floor."

...lightweights! Maybe he meant half a box.

 
theflatline 2008-02-23 03:05:58 PM  
In high school in New Orleans, I drank hard liquor.

In college in Thibodaux, I tried all the cheap hooch.

Smellvin
I am the victim of many hangovers at age 38, Nothing put the hurt on me like Thunderbird.

Well the MD 20/20 left me rough but hey it is the Jew Brew, and is a good kosher wine!

Gin and Juice premixed, yecch.

Old English, good until it drops two degress in temp.

I still have fond nostalgia for tall cans and quarts.

In my old age I drink Stella, the italian bud light. And when on the liquor train a little makers on the rocks. And the every present colombian Aguardiente.

I do drink wine, but hate the douchebaggery associated with it. The girlfriend is a winie. I do not mind, because it makes her do crazy things, to me.

 
schubie 2008-02-23 03:07:26 PM  
When I waited tables we did a huge and expensive rehearsal dinner. We ran out of the good wine and my cheap ass boss put some cheap ass wine in carafes and this guest who was a self described wine snob went on and on about how fabulous the crummy wine was. His flowery descriptions made me giggle.

There have been numerous studies that if you put average wine in a nicer wine's bottle the tasters give it higher marks. Also professional wine tasters can't tell the difference between wines when you pair it with cheese. So if you want to impress someone who thinks they know about wine, just serve them some cheese.

 
crackspider 2008-02-23 03:07:52 PM  
NotWithoutAsswelts: 15% ABV

My brain just screamed and gave me a terrifying college flashback.

 
shadowwake 2008-02-23 03:07:59 PM  
Vic Sage: Wine is for sissies or the French.

Real men drink Imperial Stout/Porter.


These Frenchmen would like a word with you.

www.occultopedia.com

 
thalidomide new and improved 2008-02-23 03:09:14 PM  

 
drjekel_mrhyde 2008-02-23 03:10:47 PM  
macaddict0
drinks wine no wai

 
the hooded genius 2008-02-23 03:12:28 PM  
Coolhaus: Anybody who spits good wine into a cup is suspect.


/but not nearly as suspect as I'll be if I drink all of the wine that I need to taste for work everyday.

 
Great Janitor 2008-02-23 03:13:12 PM  
Last year I had a job where I installed and maintained breathalyzers in the cars of drunk people (I didn't know until I was hired that we had over 1000 clients just in one city, and it's a nationwide company).

One day it was slow and I was listening to the hard luck story of one of our customers on how she was busted for drunk driving and forced to become our client. She said, "Get this, I wasn't drinking beer, it was just wine, so how could I be drunk?" I took the time to explain to her that wine has alot more alcohol in it than beer, so her five glasses did in fact, make her legally drunk.

 
Tempted 2008-02-23 03:14:13 PM  
My good friend Burrito -

Please try a wine from Randy Dunn before you pass that judgment. His wines are likened to an iron fist in a velvet glove for a reason.

Today's juice is becoming more and more extracted (aka "fruit bombs")... and higher alcohol content doesn't always mean more pleasure.

Well, I mean, for most of us.

And yes, $50 wine does have an appeal that Two Buck Chuck just can't carry off. If you've never bought a serious amount of wine, you might not recognize the subtlety. Not a big problem, just don't throw up your PBR or ICL all over my wine cellar.

 
Pinky Floyd 2008-02-23 03:15:07 PM  
One definition of the "right" alcohol level is if two people can finish a bottle and "wish there was a little bit more," said Dunn. "You don't do that with a 15.5 percent or 16 percent alcohol wine," he added. "You'd be lying on the floor."

Wussy..Obviously not a beer drinker.

 
Polyhazard 2008-02-23 03:15:45 PM  
knucklebreather
All I need to know about wine connoisseurs is that $4 bottles of wine, in blind tests, are rated about the same as the $50+ stuff. But once you know the price of course one is great and the other sucks...

What's really interesting about it is that people who say the 50 dollar stuff tastes better than the 10 dollar stuff (even if they're the same wine with different labels) aren't just saying they like it more, they are actually experiencing them differently.

When a research subject is told they are drinking a more expensive wine, there is actually more activity in the brain's pleasure centers.

 
Ruca [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 03:17:22 PM  
I've been trying for 2 hours to get people to come over and get drunk with me on wines or beers with high ABV, to no avail. So, I'm getting a kick, etc.

 
konigsforst 2008-02-23 03:17:43 PM  
erm, stella is belgian.

and tastes like a dirty armpit

 
llewyrr [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 03:18:39 PM  
the hooded genius: Coolhaus: Anybody who spits good wine into a cup is suspect.


/but not nearly as suspect as I'll be if I drink all of the wine that I need to taste for work everyday.


Seriously. If I drank a glass every time I opened a bottle, I'd be so drunk halfway through the day, I wouldn't understand how to use a corkscrew anymore.

Side note: prices are fixed, and alcohol content shouldn't matter if it's done well. This is why different varieties of vodka burn less.

 
tomhath 2008-02-23 03:23:35 PM  
galleech I also don't understand that whole spitting into the cup thing, part of the taste involves how it goes down and any aftertastes.

The beer goggles, they do something!

 
eean 2008-02-23 03:25:28 PM  
Stella is the Budweiser of Belgium, you can't judge Belgium beer based on it (unless you're wanting to compare popular beers for some reason).

 
kid_charlemagne 2008-02-23 03:28:27 PM  
"I just hate high-alcohol wines," said Randy Dunn, founder of Dunn Vineyards, who fired off an open letter last year urging consumers to demand wines of 14 percent alcohol or less.

Maybe he thought he was going into the whine business.

/fairy
//+1 for the headline

 
TeddyRooseveltsMustache [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 03:31:08 PM  
Saborlas: They're not drunk enough?

They're lightweights.

 
kid_charlemagne 2008-02-23 03:33:47 PM  
"I sold my drivers license for a box of wine!"

www.cpesa.com.mx

 
blkhwk86 2008-02-23 03:34:44 PM  
They just need to shut the fark up and keep drinking.

 
clod9 2008-02-23 03:35:16 PM  
wine is lovely, interesting, and fun. however, in my time working as a waitress, I have run into so many people who take the fun out of it by being snobby. i suppose this is true of many things, but it is funny to trick these winesnob types by giving them house wine and listening to them analyze and oooh and aahhh.

 
Dr. C. Beavers 2008-02-23 03:36:28 PM  
i203.photobucket.com


real men snort this stuff!

not really, but i've seen it done.

 
ultraholland 2008-02-23 03:36:28 PM  
Wine connoisseurs throw darts at random words to create the description of the wine they're sampling.

 
Dr. C. Beavers 2008-02-23 03:41:36 PM  
clod9: wine is lovely, interesting, and fun. however, in my time working as a waitress, I have run into so many people who take the fun out of it by being snobby. i suppose this is true of many things, but it is funny to trick these winesnob types by giving them house wine and listening to them analyze and oooh and aahhh.

so if I were to order a pricey glass of wine at your restaurant I actually might end up getting something that came out of a box??

remind me to never stop by your restaurant

 
Corydon 2008-02-23 03:41:49 PM  
clod9: wine is lovely, interesting, and fun. however, in my time working as a waitress, I have run into so many people who take the fun out of it by being snobby.

This. One thing I love about wine is that there's so much variety out there, there's always something new to try. And a bottle of wine is the perfect amount to share with a friend over dinner.

One thing I can't stand about wine is how it attracts the twits who feel the need to say obnoxious things like "big, chewy cabs" (FTFA).

I loves me a good microbrew too; unfortunately they also tend to attract the beer snobs, who are, in anything, worse than the wine snobs.

 
The_Time_Master 2008-02-23 03:44:25 PM  
QUESTION FOR BEER AND WINE AFICIONADOS :

Is it true that for most brands, that the statement of "Aged 10 years" Or 20 year old scotch, etc... is an outright lie? I was told recently that what they actually do is change the temperature and methods for fermenting to give a taste approximation to what it would taste like if had actually been aged years instead of the weeks or months that it actually is aged.

 
Oldiron_79 2008-02-23 03:46:26 PM  
What real men drink usually comes in a mason jar.

 
Captain Crunk 2008-02-23 03:46:49 PM  
I'm in a wine tasting class right now (kick, etc) and I can appreciate what they're saying. When you run into a really hot red, it can be very hard to figure out what you're tasting. All the flavor gets lost behind the burn. I'm not an expert by any means, but these huge wines coming out of Cali have an entry level price point while at the same time being too hot to get a good baseline. I mean, the alcohol levels are approaching those traditionally reserved for fortified wines (MD 20/20 ftw).

On the other hand, try a cali red thats at about 9%. Tastes like it belongs in a sippy cup.

 
ultraholland 2008-02-23 03:52:20 PM  
Oldiron_79: What real men drink usually comes in a mason jar.

Jam? Chutney? Honey?

 
chewy milk 2008-02-23 03:54:16 PM  
Captain Crunk: I'm in a wine tasting class right now (kick, etc) and I can appreciate what they're saying. When you run into a really hot red, it can be very hard to figure out what you're tasting. All the flavor gets lost behind the burn. I'm not an expert by any means, but these huge wines coming out of Cali have an entry level price point while at the same time being too hot to get a good baseline. I mean, the alcohol levels are approaching those traditionally reserved for fortified wines (MD 20/20 ftw).

On the other hand, try a cali red thats at about 9%. Tastes like it belongs in a sippy cup.


There are classes, that you pay for, on how to taste wine?

Wow.


/wow

 
cotb [TotalFark] 2008-02-23 03:54:21 PM  
Oldiron_79: What real men drink usually comes in a mason jar.

You've been following me when I donate to the Sperm Bank?

 
Dr. C. Beavers 2008-02-23 03:54:36 PM  
The_Time_Master: QUESTION FOR BEER AND WINE AFICIONADOS :

Is it true that for most brands, that the statement of "Aged 10 years" Or 20 year old scotch, etc... is an outright lie? I was told recently that what they actually do is change the temperature and methods for fermenting to give a taste approximation to what it would taste like if had actually been aged years instead of the weeks or months that it actually is aged.


Scotch production is rather highly regulated. If they were to do something like that, I would imagine William Wallace would jump out of his grave and go medieval on someone's ass.
So, nah I highly doubt that reputable producers of scotch would dare do something that could potentially be a national FAIL

 
kid_charlemagne 2008-02-23 03:55:52 PM  
Oldiron_79: What real men drink usually comes in a mason jar.

...and we all know that the only one coming in a Mason jar is Mr. Mason.

 
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