and yes, the "real talk" there is a R. Kelly reference.

And he, like Hillary, voted for something they hoped would not pass. This is why "present" votes matter.

Give him a break...he's 112!

submitter: John McCrain

McCrain?

Golden_Eternity: McCrain?


Yippee-kai-yay, motherfarker.

I've been wary of this guy ever since he killed his brother McAbel.

/I know, Genesis was a long time ago, let it go...

Insane in the McCranium

/got nothing
//except Cypress Hill
///and no weed to supplement it

If I were the Dems, I would run the flipflopping crap right back at the Republicans this year constantly.

/Doesn't think Obama will stoop to that level

cyberwolf: If I were the Dems, I would run the flipflopping crap right back at the Republicans this year constantly.

/Doesn't think Obama will stoop to that level

They should start a group which will attack McCain's war-record as being grossly inflated, if not outright false.

/He wasn't a war prisoner!
//'Prisoner' infers he was held against his will!
///Come on, you know the Repubs would do it...

John W. McCrazy

Aeonic_Blue: They should start a group which will attack McCain's war-record as being grossly inflated, if not outright false.

Swiftboat veterans FTW!

Grampa is getting senile, time to put him in a home.

Two years ago I had a lot of respect for McCain, I still do but only when i think of the McCain of yesteryear.

Just proves that Republicans have the defiition of "straight" wrong in relation to both honesty and sexuality.

Aeonic_Blue:
They should start a group which will attack McCain's war-record as being grossly inflated, if not outright false.

There was some group in the 90's that accused McCain of being a Manchurian Candidate.

Fart_Machine: Aeonic_Blue:
They should start a group which will attack McCain's war-record as being grossly inflated, if not outright false.

There was some group in the 90's that accused McCain of being a Manchurian Candidate.

Well, that's obviously not true. The Manchurian candidate was young and hunky. McCain has an ancient, wrinkly ballsack.

Aeonic_Blue: Well, that's obviously not true. The Manchurian candidate was young and hunky. McCain has an ancient, wrinkly ballsack.

He could still be bangin' his mom, though.

/Seeing as how she's still alive
//And viagra existing and all

Seriously, the only straight-talking Republican who actually addresses issues, who was acknowledged by Giuliani as the winner of all the debates, gets blackballed by the media, snickered at by candidates from his own party, and the brain-dead sound-bite crowd cheers.
And THIS flip-flopping, 100-years-in-Iraq lunatic is the best that the Republicans can do for a candidate?
Idiots.

Smellvin: He could still be bangin' his mom, though.

Guys, I dislike the republicans as much as most of the country does, but this article kind of sounded like something Rush Limbaugh would say.

HowlingFrog: Seriously, the only straight-talking Republican who actually addresses issues, who was acknowledged by Giuliani as the winner of all the debates, gets blackballed by the media, snickered at by candidates from his own party, and the brain-dead sound-bite crowd cheers.
And THIS flip-flopping, 100-years-in-Iraq lunatic is the best that the Republicans can do for a candidate?
Idiots.

Just out of curiosity, who is this straigh talking republican to whom you refer?

jcooli09: Just out of curiosity, who is this straigh talking republican to whom you refer?

Ron Paul.

HowlingFrog: who was acknowledged by Giuliani as the winner of all the debates

He was being sarcastic, but they don't mention that at prisonplanet. Besides, I thought Giuliani as a lying sack of shiat?

Donald_McRonald: HowlingFrog: who was acknowledged by Giuliani as the winner of all the debates

He was being sarcastic, but they don't mention that at prisonplanet. Besides, I thought Giuliani as a lying sack of shiat?

I'm not a RP supporter but i thought he owned them in the debates.

Romney: "I'd have to ask a lawyer."
RP: "Talk to a lawyer? Are you crazy, read the constitution."

Donald_McRonald: He was being sarcastic, but they don't mention that at prisonplanet.

Who was talking about prisonplanet? Oh, you were. Carry on.

Besides, I thought Giuliani as a lying sack of shiat?

He is. But why would he lie about that, and then endorse Rommney?

cyberwolf: Doesn't think Obama will stoop to that level

yes, because Obama's veins pump with the sweet tears of angels.

cyberwolf: If I were the Dems, I would run the flipflopping crap right back at the Republicans this year constantly.

/Doesn't think Obama will stoop to that level

I don't think that his supporters will chant "flip flop" while flapping their arms like residents at a group home for assisted living.

But he will use the inconsistent statements, as he rightly should.

Magruda: I'm not a RP supporter but i thought he owned them in the debates.

Romney: "I'd have to ask a lawyer."
RP: "Talk to a lawyer? Are you crazy, read the constitution."

I thought it was funny as hell when Giuliani tried to slam him over his comments about the 9/11 attacks, unaware that Paul was quoting directly from the 9/11 Commission Report. RP then sent "the 9/11 Mayor" a copy of the report, so that he could actually read it.
pwn3d.

HowlingFrog: Who was talking about prisonplanet? Oh, you were. Carry on.

So then show me where you got the idea that Giuliani said that Paul won the debates.

Magruda: Two years ago I had a lot of respect for McCain, I still do but only when i think of the McCain of yesteryear.

Don't worry, scrot. Now, there are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.

I respect McCain for his service to this country in the military, as one should...

But damn, I can't stand the lying, stuck-up, brainless fool, and do not want him for President. We already had too many years of that.

I lost respect for him several years back when he voted for a bill (that passed) denying student loans for anyone who has been convicted of a drug charge. I even wrote him to not support such a bill. He just does not believe in giving anyone a chance to better themselves after a mistake.

I think he's damaged goods. They screwed up his mind while he was a prisoner. They may have implanted things in his mind. I bet he would snap within two days after taking the oath. We know Bush did two minutes after he took the oath to defend the Constitution.

Yeah man, Ron Paul.
Damn straight.

Donald_McRonald: So then show me where you got the idea that Giuliani said that Paul won the debates.

Oh, here (with clip, pops). And here (with same vid clip). Oh yeah, and even the LA Times. Notice: no prisonplanet.
Check your preconcieved notions at the door and google for five minutes before posting crap, yes?

HowlingFrog: Oh, here (with clip, pops). And here (with same vid clip). Oh yeah, and even the LA Times. Notice: no prisonplanet.
Check your preconcieved notions at the door and google for five minutes before posting crap, yes?

Oh the irony... Did you even watch the video clip you linked to? You are the one with the preconceived notions. He was being facetious - they laughed when he said it, because, as your LAT clip points out, Giuliani was referring to how Paul "won" the debates due to the text message votes sent by Paulites. (The video in both your links is even called "Giuliani gets last stab @ Ron Paul before quitting 1/29/08.")

However, I'm sure you'll just repeat the same nonsense in the next thread. It's your MO. You just ignore the facts that weaken any point you're trying to make.

HowlingFrog: He is. But why would he lie about that, and then endorse Rommney?

Because him saying RP won thd debate fits your preconceived notions. That's why you interpret it this way.

Then again, you're not exactly known as a paragon of rational thought around these parts.

BKITU: Because him saying RP won thd debate fits your preconceived notions. That's why you interpret it this way.

Then again, you're not exactly known as a paragon of rational thought around these parts.

Dude, don't you know that logic and "facts" are just tools used by the reverse vampire Illuminati? RON PAUL! RON PAUL!

MasterThief: Yippee-kai-yay, motherfarker.

That's McClane.



HowlingFrog: RON PAUL



Yeah, good luck with that.

You know who else was crazy about the constitution...

/That's right
//Jesus
///Got nothin'

Donald_McRonald: because, as your LAT clip points out, Giuliani was referring to how Paul "won" the debates due to the text message votes sent by Paulites.

1.) there was no clip in the LAT article.
2.) Giuliani was poking fun at the debunked "call in" debate scam. Or do you honestly believe that there were a handful of supporters, each with thousands of cell phones? Yeah, you probably do. You probably also believe that this handful of supporters had a couple hundred bucks between them, and found a way to clone it into twenty million.

However, I'm sure you'll just repeat the same nonsense in the next thread. It's your MO. You just ignore the facts that weaken any point you're trying to make.

And that's what you're doing right here. "You keep repeating the same nonsense blablabla...".

BKITU: Because him saying RP won thd debate fits your preconceived notions. That's why you interpret it this way.

Actually it's because I WATCHED the debates, and Paul was the only one with solid answers to real issues while others were mouthing platitudes and sound bites. But have it your way, junior.

Then again, you're not exactly known as a paragon of rational thought around these parts.

I'll take that as a compliment. Now skidaddle on back to your herd.

thalidomide new and improved: cyberwolf: Doesn't think Obama will stoop to that level

yes, because Obama's veins pump with the sweet tears of angels.

No, rather because the refreshing, good guy tactic has worked for him really very well.

bartink:I don't think that his supporters will chant "flip flop" while flapping their arms like residents at a group home for assisted living.

But he will use the inconsistent statements, as he rightly should.

Good point.

Why is it that any time I see the McCain hugging Bush picture I think, "I love you, food." Has Fark really warped my mind that badly, or is that a combo-meme that has been going around?

HowlingFrog

I've been reading your posts so far and you've managed to be so brutally factually inaccurate that I had to respond.

HowlingFrog: acknowledged by Giuliani as the winner of all the debates

No he wasn't, you moron. Jooleeawhnee was obviously joking about those "text in your winner" things where RP won all of them. I am not surprised that this went over your head.

HowlingFrog: I thought it was funny as hell when Giuliani tried to slam him over his comments about the 9/11 attacks, unaware that Paul was quoting directly from the 9/11 Commission Report. RP then sent "the 9/11 Mayor" a copy of the report, so that he could actually read it.

Actually, if you are referring to the "I hope the Congressman will take back those comments" debate moment, RP was blaming 9/11 on the Gulf War and subsequent enforcement of their no fly zone, which was quoting directly from Bin Laden, not our government. Again, not surprised that you would get the two confused. Does anyone here think that Bin Laden's excuses for declaring jihad in the 90s are at all valid? Do you really think it is acceptable that a presidential candidate would blame 9/11 on probably the most obviously justifiable war since WW2?

I guess we should go back and time and prevent 9/11 by following RP's advice, which is to let the Kuwaities get slaughtered and appease Saddam as he starts to eye Iran again. Except, Iran would already be under his control because we wouldn't have interfered in their 80s war either. Maybe I should give Ron Paul the benefit of the doubt though; maybe he was just saying "9/11 was a consequence of doing exactly the right thing", which is just such a powerful point to make at a debate. But no, I doubt it, because RP is on record against the Gulf War and all other Middle East interference of the last 30 years or so. It's obvious he was trying to say that our foreign policy got us hit and he wouldn't make the same "mistakes".

People capable of rational thought rejected Ron Paul immediately following that moment.

HowlingFrog: Donald_McRonald: Besides, I thought Giuliani as a lying sack of shiat?

He is. But why would he lie about that, and then endorse Rommney?

Am I reading this wrong, or are you seriously suggesting that Jules endorsed Romney? Where do you get your information? Kos?

HowlingFrog: Giuliani was poking fun at the debunked "call in" debate scam. Or do you honestly believe that there were a handful of supporters, each with thousands of cell phones? Yeah, you probably do. You probably also believe that this handful of supporters had a couple hundred bucks between them, and found a way to clone it into twenty million.

What on earth are you rambling on about? RP got the highest %s because he is the anti war candidate, and all the anti war people called in to vote for him! Is this THAT hard to understand?

I guess we should go back and time and prevent 9/11 by following RP's advice, which is to let the Kuwaities get slaughtered and appease Saddam as he starts to eye Iran again. Except, Iran would already be under his control because we wouldn't have interfered in their 80s war either.

You do realize the reason Saddam was in power and had to means to invade kuwait was because we supported him so much in the Iran-Iraq war, right? And even then we were also selling weapons to the Iranians.

History isn't selective based on whatever you're trying to prove.


What on earth are you rambling on about? RP got the highest %s because he is the anti war candidate, and all the anti war people called in to vote for him! Is this THAT hard to understand?

So the pro war people couldn't be bothered to vote? Or are there no pro war people? What are you trying to say?

People capable of rational thought rejected Ron Paul immediately following that moment.

By rational thought, you surely mean kneejerk reactions?

Lemme tell you the difference between the Office of President and being "a representative"

A "representative" votes whatever their constituency wants.

A President tells them STFU, NPFY, GBTW and votes what's right.

Fart_Machine: There was some group in the 90's that accused McCain of being a Manchurian Candidate.

His own people, I believe. Another example of the Karl Rove playbook.

That, along with the "fathered a black baby" series of stealth calls, is why I can't respect McCain. His own party did that to him, yet he still gives them his blind allegiance.