Yeah, from what I hear, when she's the Boss, everyone's bills will be paid directly by Yhe Rich. Yay for me - no more car payments after Jan naught eight !

Or at least, she's willing to pretend she does until November.

FTFA: Clinton is courting working-class voters with a new message of economic populism similar to the theme of John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator who dropped out of the Democratic race in January.

Another day, another new message from the candidate of change.

Message changed to reflect what polls say you want to hear.

Reactron: Yeah, from what I hear, when she's the Boss, everyone's bills will be paid directly by Yhe Rich. Yay for me - no more car payments after Jan naught eight !

It sucks that I recently found out I was rich. Damn that $75k cap!

I always thought it was Bill who felt our pain.

Oh wait, he's over in the other thread, feeling the strippers pain (I guess that what they call it now).

But now I have the response to the eternal question,"Who Cares?"

Hillary, obviously.

I'll just direct all complaints to her from now on.

The fact that people fall for this shiat every election year is maddening.

If she cares about, for example, Wisconsin, she should stick around for Tuesday and take her lumps. You're playing for delegates, Hillary. Leaving early like you've done everywhere else you've lost is only going to flip that one extra delegate to Obama that you might have otherwise kept.

On yesterday's phone survey, the questions reflected this "change" from the Clinton camp, I told 'em I was still voting for Obama

She railed against a tax code that she said was unfair to the middle class and against the outsourcing of jobs overseas. "We're going to keep jobs by making it abundantly clear that there will not be one penny of your tax dollars that goes to anyone who exports jobs out of Wisconsin," Clinton said.

Well, that certainly solves that issue.

Oh geez, suck it up democrats.
You guys does this in every single election, it's been driving everyone else crazy for 70+ years, don't start pretending this is Hillary stuff.

Every year you guys comes out with your famous electioneering tagline:

"And for women, we promise more women stuff! For blacks, more black stuff! For Hispanics, more Hispanic stuff! For gays, more gay stuff! My opponent eats kittens and wants to sleep with his mother. Thank you, good night."

Suck it up: Hillary is 100% what you guys deserve.

She feels our pain? I don't think so. From what I understand of their relationship, she hasn't gotten it in the ass by any president like the rest of us have...

Dear Hillary,

My taxes are too high. Do you care?

/crickets

scavenger: The fact that people fall for this shiat every election year is maddening.

The best part? There are people who actually think that 'universal health care' can work.

meh. just stock pile shotguns, ammo and canned goods while waiting for the inevitable collapse of western society.

Subby is under the brainwashed control of the Clinton Campaign. Pathetic!

"And for women, we promise more women stuff! For blacks, more black stuff! For Hispanics, more Hispanic stuff! For gays, more gay stuff! My opponent eats kittens and wants to sleep with his mother. Thank you, good night."

That could only sound good compared to the other side's even dumber "Women, your womb belongs to your husband/the patriarch of your family! Hispanics, go back to your own country, unless you'd like to cut my yard! Gays, go back into the closet, you detestable sinners! My opponent wants to give America to terrorists and force us into communism! Thank you and good night."

And people wonder why I register as an independent.

what do all her campaign contributors think when she puts out ads saying she has always fought them and will continue to fight. and i still don't understand how someone can be so comfortable with bold faced lies. i get sick every time i see that fake smile and tree stump legs

Dear Hillary,

My taxes are too high. Do you care?

/crickets

mine are high too...lucky for me i dont go to church for another mugging

She didn't care that my son would be sent to Iraq and that Code Pink and other mothers against the war literally begged for the lives of their sons and daughters. Hillary turned her back and walked away. Now she says she cares? Pick up a gun biatch and go fight your war. Send your ugly ass daughter over there too.

She won't get my vote 'till she promises to put soda machines in the cafeteria.

/popularity contest
//some things never change

FTA: "At campaign rallies over the last few days, Clinton has vowed to rein in corporate interests from oil companies to credit card issuers and mortgage lenders, contending that they are profiting at the expense of the middle class."

This coming from the candidate who has taken more money from lobbyists and PACs than all the others...I smell BS.

Weaver95: scavenger: The fact that people fall for this shiat every election year is maddening.

The best part? There are people who actually think that 'universal health care' can work.

meh. just stock pile shotguns, ammo and canned goods while waiting for the inevitable collapse of western society.

Universal health care seems to work fine for the military -- a fairly large organization.

keithgabryelski: Universal health care seems to work fine for the military -- a fairly large organization.

Are you joking me??? Veterans hospitals/clinics have tons of problems and are constantly being held up by red tape.

Universal health care can more-or-less work. In first-world countries, it works via the normal means of progressive taxation. The Clinton and Obama plans preserve the insurance model, which is that your cost of health care should have nothing to do with how much you make (unless you make just about nothing), but should be based on how sick you have been in the past and how old you are. Mandating this model, particularly with no forced reduction of health costs, insurance profits, and overhead expenditures or punishment for reneging on promised insurance coverage, is painfully regressive.

These plans suck. There are people in the House and Senate that realize this. That's why Hillary couldn't get a similar plan passed in a Democratic House and Senate in 1993. I'm hoping Obama is a little more willing to compromise.

Can they simply offer universal health care, not mandate it? I'm all for that.

Gregory F. Stuart: Basically, we should vote Republican iff'n we don't want Western civilization to collapse, amirite?

Seeing as how the libs "took over" the Republican party, I'm not quite sure of that ;)

Lordmontu: Are you joking me???

Naaaayeah, I don't think I'd be touting the VA as an example of how wonderful universal health-care will be. Think Sweden - I hear Sweden is just like heaven, except with hot-blond-on-blond-sex and everything is free and there is singing and dancing in the streets paved with free gold and everybody lives to be a hunnert and fifty.

keithgabryelski: Weaver95: scavenger: The fact that people fall for this shiat every election year is maddening.

The best part? There are people who actually think that 'universal health care' can work.

meh. just stock pile shotguns, ammo and canned goods while waiting for the inevitable collapse of western society.

Universal health care seems to work fine for the military -- a fairly large organization.

Clearly you've never fallen off a vehicle, landed wrong, waited overnight to go to sick call, then in the morning, some E-3, fresh out of AIT looks at your twisted, swollen ankle you can barely fit a boot around, hands you 4 Motrin and tells you to suck it up.

Tri-Care (or whatever it is now) blows the mighty goat.

Thanks, subby! Now when I hear "Hillary", I'm going to think of a bizarro Care Bear that fires dark side lightning at the stupified masses.

/shudder

I respect John McCain a lot more than Hillary on economics just because he has the balls (no pun) to tell it like it is:

"I've got to give you some straight talk: Some of the jobs that have left the state of Michigan are not coming back. They are not. And I am sorry to tell you that."

Fact is states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and anywhere that is not home to tons of white collar executives is going to suffer. Recessions screw over the poor first. Any President that would be retarded enough to keep trying to prop up US industries like the automobile industry should not be elected. To succeed America must invest in education and train Americans to be able to do jobs that can't be done by computers or by 5 cent an hour workers in Asia.

Weaver95: just stock pile shotguns, ammo and canned goods while waiting for the inevitable collapse of western society.





Another Clinton presidency. Another wave of survivalist nutballs raving with denial in the face of progress.

c7hu1hu fh746n: That could only sound good compared to the other side's even dumber "Women, your womb belongs to your husband/the patriarch of your family! Hispanics, go back to your own country, unless you'd like to cut my yard! Gays, go back into the closet, you detestable sinners! My opponent wants to give America to terrorists and force us into communism! Thank you and good night."

Wait, we're talking about John McAmnesty, right?

jonasborg: Can they simply offer universal health care, not mandate it? I'm all for that.

Healthy young people are needed to subsidize older sick people who vote, so no.

So Obama's message is by working together and giving back we can make America better, and Hillary's message is that she will fix everything for everyone by supposedly screwing over her major contributors?

/Obama '08

Bull Schmitt: FTFA: Clinton is courting working-class voters with a new message of economic populism similar to the theme of John Edwards, the former North Carolina senator who dropped out of the Democratic race in January.

Another day, another new message from the candidate of change.

Message changed to reflect what polls say you want to hear.

So, who thought that picking up the message of the guy that got no traction was a good idea?

Cyborg77: To succeed America must invest in education and train Americans to be able to do jobs that can't be done by computers or by 5 cent an hour workers in Asia.

Got any suggestions what those jobs might be, or are you just throwing out the dream? Last I checked, the average IQ in the country was still 100.

19 Kilo: Clearly you've never fallen off a vehicle, landed wrong, waited overnight to go to sick call, then in the morning, some E-3, fresh out of AIT looks at your twisted, swollen ankle you can barely fit a boot around, hands you 4 Motrin and tells you to suck it up.

Tri-Care (or whatever it is now) blows the mighty goat.

THIS! Military health care, while free, does indeed suck.

You could break your back, and they would forget to let you know.

/yes, that has happened to someone I know
//Didn't find out about his broken back until applying for VA benefits

Wait, we're talking about John McAmnesty, right?

I was sort of alluding to the public stance of the party in general...don't worry. McAmnesty will come around, and become McDeportation soon enough.

why do you guys insist on pretending that American democrats and republicans don't share the same ideologies

WFern: Another Clinton presidency. Another wave of survivalist nutballs raving with denial in the face of progress.




Ahh, the sweet smell of progress.

Ya know, I'm beginning to think Hillary isn't always saying exactly what she believes.

19 Kilo: Clearly you've never fallen off a vehicle, landed wrong, waited overnight to go to sick call, then in the morning, some E-3, fresh out of AIT looks at your twisted, swollen ankle you can barely fit a boot around, hands you 4 Motrin and tells you to suck it up.

Tri-Care (or whatever it is now) blows the mighty goat.

Yeah military medical coverage is far better for veterans and horrible for those actually in the military. Unless you've been shot or have a metal pipe jammed into your skull you will only get motrin.

19 Kilo: learly you've never fallen off a vehicle, landed wrong, waited overnight to go to sick call, then in the morning, some E-3, fresh out of AIT looks at your twisted, swollen ankle you can barely fit a boot around, hands you 4 Motrin and tells you to suck it up.

Tri-Care (or whatever it is now) blows the mighty goat.

Well, I have a different experience -- eye operation, broken bones -- I'm not saying all my trips to the hospital were dandy -- I'm saying that now that I don't have that service, I miss it.

Klippoklondike: Yeah military medical coverage is far better for veterans and horrible for those actually in the military. Unless you've been shot or have a metal pipe jammed into your skull you will only get motrin.

My buddy was walking on a hair-line fractured ankle for about 3 months before the clinic got sick of his biatching and actually X-Rayed him.

Motrin for three months for broken ankle.

Whose idea was the where's waldoesque costume? I'm a head and hands, no arms! no Body!

"Some days, it probably feels like the perfect storm. You fill up your tank, and that's two twenties from your wallet. You pick up a gallon of milk and a few other things -- and there goes another,"

Says the woman who donated five million dollars to her own campaign. Ever the panderer.

Weaver95

And that's why once-civilized Canada has plunged into bloody anarchy, right?

I listened to that speech and she is so trying to capture Obama's ability to tap into the mood of the country and she fails miserably because she focuses on herself and the negative stuff way to much. It reeks of desperation. She needs to just be herself and develop her own message and purpose for her candidacy besdies having power for it's own sake. Or maybe that is all she ever had to begin with.

birdboy2000: Weaver95
And that's why once-civilized Canada has plunged into bloody anarchy, right?

Bloody? They were practically depopulated, except for a thin strip along the American border.

jonasborg: Can they simply offer universal health care, not mandate it? I'm all for that.

This would be the Obama plan.

Weaver95: scavenger: The fact that people fall for this shiat every election year is maddening.

The best part? There are people who actually think that 'universal health care' can work.

meh. just stock pile shotguns, ammo and canned goods while waiting for the inevitable collapse of western society.

i like the way obama put it in his book several times.

we might debate the means to reach a goal, but the goal should not be up for debate. the goal, in this case, should be having every american citizen living a healthy life. we are, after all, the most wealthy nation in the world, there is no excuse to have sections of our population with infant mortality rates on par with third world countries.