Eh, we have similar at my school. A set of "luxury" apartments run by a private company but considered dorms by the school. They're not as nice as the ones described here, but they're still a lot nicer than dorms. Ours cost more, but, we're also not in Arizona.

It's Arizona State. Who goes there for an education?

Giambelluca said that one thing Vista Del Sol will have in common with all ASU residence halls is rules: all university standards and codes will apply. That means there will be supervision by a community-assistant staff, alcohol will be forbidden - even for students 21 or over - and rooms are single gender.

I think that spoils it entirely.

Richard Pye

Yeah, I mean... who wants to be paying for luxury and still have to obey laws, amirite?

All the land right by campus has been taken over by these new luxury apartments that all come equipped with a huge plasma tv, washer/dryer and all the amenities. All the affordable housing is in the ghetto, and even the moderately priced place like i live is slowly becoming more and more expensive.

Richard Pye: Giambelluca said that one thing Vista Del Sol will have in common with all ASU residence halls is rules: all university standards and codes will apply. That means there will be supervision by a community-assistant staff, alcohol will be forbidden - even for students 21 or over - and rooms are single gender.

I think that spoils it entirely.

Thats what makes it so much more fun! No Booze, No Girls, Lights Out at 8:30 and Bed Checks every 30 minutes for the rest of the night....

/seriously breaking the rules is so much more exciting especially when you have a naked girl behind the door while the RA comes by to chat for a half hour...
//Ah he good ol days...
///Glad I wasn't the girl...
////Get off my Lawn!

FTFA: "...alcohol will be forbidden"

At ASU. Right...

From TFA: Giambelluca said four students sharing a four-bedroom apartment would pay $575 each per month, or two students sharing a two-bedroom apartment will pay $675 each.

Practically a steal to what I had to pay for campus living at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. Seems like a pretty good deal if the school is trying to encourage more students to live on campus.

FTFA: four students sharing a four-bedroom apartment would pay $575 each per month, or two students sharing a two-bedroom apartment will pay $675 each. A single-occupancy one-bedroom apartment is renting for $1,000 a month

Seems like a reasonable deal. Can I shack up with a sexy AZ coed?

Please?

So, more scholarship money, loans, and other "entitlements" (like lotteries tied to "free" college for qualifying students) means more $$ available for college. More $$ means more places like this. And we're shocked that education gets more expensive...

Too many people go to college in the first place. That's right, I said it.

Richard Pye: Giambelluca said that one thing Vista Del Sol will have in common with all ASU residence halls is rules: all university standards and codes will apply. That means there will be supervision by a community-assistant staff, alcohol will be forbidden - even for students 21 or over - and rooms are single gender.

I think that spoils it entirely.

See, that's why I go to McGill. We don't have the whole "rules" thing.

Our RA told us that she was fine with us doing whatever drugs we wanted as long as someone knew what we were doing so she could tell the ambulance in case of an OD...and that was the official policy of the dorm. God bless Montreal.

Bronzed War God: Too many people go to college in the first place. That's right, I said it.

Agreed.

Katie98_KT: Eh, we have similar at my school. A set of "luxury" apartments run by a private company but considered dorms by the school. They're not as nice as the ones described here, but they're still a lot nicer than dorms. Ours cost more, but, we're also not in Arizona.

Same story here near UCSB. A bunch of poor families were evicted and their apartments bulldozed to make way for luxury dorms. I wonder if luxury dorms is a trend? Thanks to the uproar and to Arnold, CA has upped the eviction notice to 60 days.

Wow. At UCSC I paid nearly double that in rent, was required to have a meal plan, slept on furniture that was twenty-something years old, and had to walk two and a half miles to my car.

/Up hill!
//Both ways!
///In the snow!
////Get off my slashy lawn.

h to the 'ojo: It's Arizona State. Who goes there for an education?

As a graduate from ASU, I rese..... ohh, pretty colors!

Back in my day, we had industrial/institutional "carpeting," flourescent lights and cinder block walls. And barely enough room for the onions that I tie to my belt.

Bronzed War God: So, more scholarship money, loans, and other "entitlements" (like lotteries tied to "free" college for qualifying students) means more $$ available for college. More $$ means more places like this. And we're shocked that education gets more expensive...

Too many people go to college in the first place. That's right, I said it.

Taking away that money hurts the working class and the poor students, while the comfortable middle class and up will continue to get their educations paid for by mommy and daddy.

Your experience may vary, but the vast majority of the people just taking up space for four five years at uni that I knew of were upper middle class kids.

I don't think you've thought your cunning plan all the way through.

Richard Pye: I think that spoils it entirely.

Agreed. When you're paying to live off campus, you're also paying not to have the RA hitler youth up in your business as much as you're paying to have a bigger room and kitchen.

Sumo Surfer: Same story here near UCSB. A bunch of poor families were evicted and their apartments bulldozed to make way for luxury dorms.

I don't believe that it was dorms that took the place. It was just higher-end apartment living aimed at gouging students in an already rent-inflated area (Isla Vista). The company in question is Conquest Housing and last I heard they're being sued by USC for devious and illegal practices down there. Oh, looks like they settled.

Anyway, to hell with the opportunistic slumlords in IV.

masterj0n3z: h to the 'ojo: It's Arizona State. Who goes there for an education?

As a graduate from ASU, I rese..... ohh, pretty colors!

Of people I know who went to ASU, it was for sports, parties, and the weather. What about LDS (as mentioned in your profile)

Bronzed War God:
Too many people go to college in the first place. That's right, I said it.

I say this all the time. The workforce is shaped like a pyramid, with labor, skilled labor and trade jobs forming the large base. For some reason, in this country we think that we need to train everyone for the tip.

They should do something like this about housing in Tempe. The off campus housing available to students is garbage at best. It resembles the low rise projects in Chicago. The Centerpoint high rises going up in Tempe are a good alternative to off campus shiatholes. There will be 3 30 story buildings and 1 20 story building. Studios start at 550,000 and you can get a 2 bedroom with a view for 990,000.(USD) Oh, and by the way, ASU is ranked #1 for STD's in college reviews. Be careful.

I always preferred the freedom of off-campus "apartments" that are in no way affiliated with the university.

Luxury housing run by the school? No, thank you.

It has a huge, heated pool with cabanas and cooking facilities

I'll take it...You had me at canabis, oh wait...I guess that says cabanas :(

I lived in a 10x14 cinderblock room with a roommate for 4 years.
The 8 floor complex had one shared TV room, a laundry facility in the basement.

Uhhh, no swimming pools...etc.

However, I believe that if the student's parents have the money...then by all means, splurge on their kids if they want.
The kids are use to it already.

h to the 'ojo:

Of people I know who went to ASU, it was for sports, parties, and the weather. What about LDS (as mentioned in your profile)

Yeah, Spock and I used to drop together all the time.....

I went to ASU because it was cheap and it wasn't in Tucson. At the time, religion didn't matter, so I don't know what the LDS culture is like there.

Just in case you didn't give them enough sense of entitlement.

ASU sucks.

Agent_Q:

Anyway, to hell with the opportunistic slumlords in IV.

Ditto. I was wondering what happened with that project. Last I checked a small room in IV was $660 a month. For a shared room.

I love it when I read about these wet campuses in denial. (I refuse to call them dry as students can, do, and will sneak alcohol into their dorms, and the vast majority of the time, not get caught.

/I may have random commas in there.
//Haven't had coffee yet.

Duke sucks

I've seen what some of the students at ASU drive. Believe me. Some of those kids probably have it better at home.

whodigsben: Back in my day, we had industrial/institutional "carpeting," flourescent lights and cinder block walls. And barely enough room for the onions that I tie to my belt.

And don't forget the moldy ceilings, hastily-built lofts and massive bunker-style doors that will take a toenail off if you aren't careful.

"Looks like Heaven's easier to get into than Arizona State!"

drdank: Richard Pye: I think that spoils it entirely.

Agreed. When you're paying to live off campus, you're also paying not to have the RA hitler youth up in your business as much as you're paying to have a bigger room and kitchen.

When you have a) a locking front door to your 4-bedroom apartment AND b) a locking door to your bedroom, you have to be a complete IDIOT to get caught doing anything (read: "dudes, lets go run by the RA's room and flash her...that would be awesome").



you can even hide it from your 3 other roommates if you need to.


/2 years in apartment style
//only time we got in "trouble" was when the RAs walked by our room when our door was open and we had sparkling cider out in the open (badass, right?). they thought it was the real deal and they like gathered about 10 of them up and swarmed us...they felt like idiots when they found out it was the fake stuff
///^excessively long slashie

Biness

That alone makes ASU worthwhile.


/sundevil

I go to school at UCSD and they have a ton of apartments like that affiliated with the school. They also cost more than the apartments in the article. I don't know how poor people can afford to go to school here.

/got lucky and found cheap/semi-ghetto apartment near campus
//still pay as much as they do in the article

So how luxurious are these exactly? - Does it just mean that you get recessed ligting and nice countertops in the kitchen, but otherwise shoddy construction? I mean, those prices seem pretty cheap to me, but I live in central London which distorts things to say the least.

bigforearms: I don't think you've thought your cunning plan all the way through.

Umm, no. The lottery kids here in GA are the middle/ upper middle class who are getting "free" education because lower income (mostly minority) folks buy lottery tickets.

Upper income daddy says, "Wow, your college is free do you want a) a super nice house/ condo with flat screens, a gym and wi-fi or b) a new loaded Honda Accord or c) both?"

Meanwhile, the kids from the poorer high schools get shut out because we fail them at the source when they're supposed to be learning reading, writing and arithmetic. So, they never get to take advantage of the so-called "free" college.

You'll get no argument from me that K-12 is where the real reform is needed.

barrym25

True story: Went to this year's UF-FSU football game in Gainesville with some friends. We all went to see our friend's freshman daughter's dorm room. The daughter proceeded to tell us about her stoner roommate toking up in the dorm and how she was pissed about it. Not that the daughter was a prude, she just didn't want to be caught in the middle of that when she doesn't smoke.

That when we said things like, "Well, why doesn't your roommate go into the woods behind Hume Hall to smoke like we did?" and "whatever happened to extacsy? Man, you kids these days..."

Yeah, kids AND parents are a little different these days.

four students sharing a four-bedroom apartment would pay $575 each per month, or two students sharing a two-bedroom apartment will pay $675 each.

That is pretty much the cost of living on or off campus for maybe people at my school. I lived in a Co-op which had cheaper rent, but getting a house/apartment for 6-12 people came out usually to $500-700 per person per month.

...and I left Tempe for what?

/can't wait to return
//go Sun Devils!

Biness

Left: Butterface. And a Leno chin.
Right: Holy crap it's Chinzilla.

I don't mind that... I started off at Mizzou where they had the new and improved dorms for an arm and leg cheaper... stayed in the cheapest dorm... basically a shiat-hole... had to fake the seriousness of an illness to get an A/C unit...

still had fun...

too much fun, i left to be closer to home and spend less $$$

a few people have said it... but there are entirely too many people at college... undeclared is the thing to be.

i will say that tax credits, increasing grants, and lotteries will only help if they plan on trying to convince state's to keep their tuition rates stable...

my choices a year ago? University of Missouri in St Louis or St Louis University... UMSL costs $12k a year without R&B while SLU is $28k a year without R&B... same degree on a resume.

crazy.

god.. I hate living in Boston. Live in a small room in an old broken down house and much more than these luxury apts...

expensive* states*

/sometimes i wish you could edit fark comments

TheHearshotKid: Richard Pye

Yeah, I mean... who wants to be paying for luxury and still have to obey laws, amirite?

Um... It's against the law for adults to drink and have opposite sex roommates? You live in Iran or something?

MisterSpoot: Biness

Left: Butterface. And a Leno chin.
Right: Holy crap it's Chinzilla.

Oh come on! You have to know what's coming, don't you?

OK then, here it is...