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(Boston Globe) Interesting Superdelegates are half the fault of Mike Dukakis and Jesse Jackson, half the fault of Democrats who won't support the nominee unless they get a vote at the convention   (boston.com) divider line 26
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Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 09:43:37 AM  
If anything shouts "Winner!" it's a plan by Jesse Jackson and Mike Dukakis.

 
King Something [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 10:01:35 AM  
heh heh heh, "Dukakis"

 
HansensDisease [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 10:16:45 AM  
Those evil Time Lords Dukakis and Jackson went back to 1968 convention! I knew it!

 
pizen [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 10:22:02 AM  
i5.photobucket.com
/got nothing

 
Mugato [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 10:37:10 AM  
I don't get the whole "super delegates" thing. Do they have powers? Fight crime?

If only there was some series of tubes that contained information I could use to learn stuff. Oh well, back to pr0n.

 
Suicidal Writer 2008-02-17 12:49:43 PM  
Mike Dukakis and Jesse Jackson,

That is a lot of fail right there.

 
Steaming Cup of SARS 2008-02-17 12:53:28 PM  
I can't wait for this primary shiat to be over with. The election process is out of control.

 
downstairs [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 12:57:08 PM  
I really don't understand this argument that because Clinton and Obama are so close, and therefore may have a brokered convention, that this somehow undermines democracy or the election process.

Its a *good* thing. What more do you want than two strong candidates?

And the "superdelagates" thing merely ensures that there isn't a dead-lock forever. It *allows* either Hillary or Obama to bow out during the convention when its clear they're not going to win, but also secure something from the winner- the VP, some other position, etc.

 
Descartes 2008-02-17 12:58:20 PM  
...campaigns of Michael Dukakis and Jesse Jackson...
...Vice President Hubert Humphrey...
...Senator George McGovern of South Dakota...
...Mayor Richard J. Daley...
...Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts challenged President Jimmy Carter ...
...Ron Brown and Harold Ickes...

WOW. That's a lot of FAIL for one article.

 
Mentat [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 01:09:19 PM  
Mugato: I don't get the whole "super delegates" thing. Do they have powers? Fight crime?

Samuel L. Jackson explains.

 
SomeCapn 2008-02-17 01:18:38 PM  
Wow - If you ever wondered where those stereotypes that Conservatives come up with for the Democratic party - all you have to do is read that article!

That's not even while we're in government, that's all just between friends in the same party!

/where's my hat? I'm leaving.

 
d976 2008-02-17 01:47:59 PM  
Mugato: I don't get the whole "super delegates" thing. Do they have powers? Fight crime?

Yes, sometimes:


www.nohillaryclinton.com



www.popimage.com

 
Gulper Eel [TotalFark] 2008-02-17 01:52:06 PM  
Superdelegates are half the fault of Mike Dukakis and Jesse Jackson, half the fault of Democrats who won't support the nominee unless they get a vote at the convention

Clearly this is all Karl Rove's doing.

 
Bull Schmitt 2008-02-17 02:30:01 PM  
downstairs: And the "superdelagates" thing merely ensures that there isn't a dead-lock forever. It *allows* either Hillary or Obama to bow out during the convention when its clear they're not going to win, but also secure something from the winner- the VP, some other position, etc.

I think the problem is that one campaign or the other should "bow out gracefully" (FTFY?), and one campaign is utterly graceless. And trailing.

/CNN has a reporter on the air at a Milwaukee bowling alley, waiting for a Huckabee appearance. Heh.

 
czerno 2008-02-17 02:30:15 PM  
I'm voting for Dukakis.

 
roryman 2008-02-17 02:54:50 PM  
fault?

 
the opposite of charity is justice 2008-02-17 03:15:09 PM  
I really don't understand this argument that because Clinton and Obama are so close, and therefore may have a brokered convention, that this somehow undermines democracy or the election process.

Its a *good* thing. What more do you want than two strong candidates?

And the "superdelagates" thing merely ensures that there isn't a dead-lock forever. It *allows* either Hillary or Obama to bow out during the convention when its clear they're not going to win, but also secure something from the winner- the VP, some other position, etc.


You're wasting your breath trying to defend a setup that just happens to be in Hillary's favor in this case.

 
machoprogrammer 2008-02-17 08:11:29 PM  
downstairs:
Its a *good* thing. What more do you want than two strong candidates?


I think you misused the word "strong" there.

 
Corvus 2008-02-17 09:22:53 PM  
Super Delegate actually make it MORE likely that the campaign gets wrapped up before the convention where there would be even more back room deals being made.

So I am not sure why everyone is going apeshait about the situation.

Oh because they never actually thought though things and are just complaining about everything they don't understand, I guess.

 
Corvus 2008-02-17 09:28:23 PM  
Lets see close race.

With Superdelegates:

Super delegates can select the person who is in the lead so that the candidate is picked before the convention.

WithOUT Superdelegates:
Whenever it is ever close NO one has enough delegates to out right win so they go to the convention. Where at the convention the candidates make deals so that their votes go to them instead of the other candidates?

Or someone not even ever voted on becomes the candidate!

Have any of you who keep complaining about super delegates actually spent 5 minute to think what it would be like without them?

 
Speaker2Animals 2008-02-17 10:14:46 PM  
King Something heh heh heh, "Dukakis"

You know what his wife's name is? Ducoontis.

 
if_i_really_have_to 2008-02-17 10:27:27 PM  
czerno: I'm voting for Dukakis.

Maybe when you have children of your own and they need braces, and you can't afford them because half of your husband's pay check goes to the federal government, you will regret that decision.

 
LargeCanine 2008-02-17 10:31:05 PM  
Superdelegates are are a remarkably undemocratic system.

 
quatchi 2008-02-17 11:00:08 PM  
When over 40% of the votes at the convention come from superdelegates then it could potentially undermine the democratic underpinnings of the event. If Obama wins more states and more pledged delegates but Hillary's machine get more more superdelegate votes and hence the Nomination then the Dem party could well neigh asplode with angry Obamanites calling shennigans en masse and in a loud and scary manner.

 
lelio 2008-02-17 11:35:38 PM  
Is how a superdelegate voted reported? It will be interesting to see how this turns out as WA state is 2-1 Obama over Hillary yet the super delegates are lining up behind Clinton.

 
Hector Remarkable 2008-02-18 12:44:56 AM  
The Clinton camp likes to call them "automatic" delegates.

 
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