You're toast Hillary, move on.

Some one should start a betting pool on how many times she'll change her positions before she drops out.

You guys, c'mon, it's not over yet



/it's over.

I like what she's saying there.

Hillary's main tool in dealing with large corporations would include a nice big sloppy blow job. She was on the board of Wal-Mart, for Christ sakes. She'll pull her pants down for a large corporation faster then even her husband would.

"My opponent gives speeches, I offer solutions. It doesn't matter that the solutions are flawed and based more on focus groups and polling data than actual thought, or that my speeches wouldn't excite a cat in a catnip factory, the point is that I really want to become President.”

And yet, there are people who will believe her when she says it.

BTW, has anyone asked her, "Senator Clinton, you have some impressive ideas for legislation. Is there any reason why they weren't proposed and passed during your husband's administration?"

There's a real good reason for her ideas never being passed: Republicans in congress.

Generation_D: There's a real good reason for her ideas never being passed: Republicans in congress.

The first two years of Clinton's administration had a Democratic House and Senate. If Hillary expects a leisurely eight years to do what she wants, then perhaps someone with a bit more sense of urgency should be President.

I wish people would just call her Hillary. When I see Clinton I think Bill and that's not going to change.

Luckily she won't be in the public eye much longer so it won't matter.

Hillary's top contributors.

however, she gets most of her money from lawyers.

Clinton now trying to position herself as the best candidate to take on big business and special interests

Because by checking her donor records, now she knows who they all are and where to find them.

Weaver95: Hillary's top contributors.

however, she gets most of her money from lawyers.

In fairness, Obama looks basically the same in that regard.

/doesn't mean she's not a corrupt powerhungry liar, of course

Hillary's campaign has amazingly combined all the worst parts of the Gore and Kerry campaigns and all the cynical realpolitik parts of the Bush campaigns.

"Well, he told people he stood up to the nuclear industry and passed a bill against them. But he actually let the nuclear industry water down his bill - the bill never actually passed."

Obama is obviously a fraud if he wasn't willing to put a gun to each Rep and Senator's head and say, "you'll vote for this- exactly like it is! You change a word and you take a dirt nap!"

Heh, that'd be an awesome argument.

"No one can influence me - they've already maxed out!"

PC LOAD LETTER: Weaver95: Hillary's top contributors.

however, she gets most of her money from lawyers.

In fairness, Obama looks basically the same in that regard.

/doesn't mean she's not a corrupt powerhungry liar, of course
uh, obama has the contributions of a lot more people people. not fake people but real people.

PC LOAD LETTER: In fairness, Obama looks basically the same in that regard.

Not really...

Looks like he's taken only $12,500 from PACs.

"Stupid" is for the Obama supporter who submitted this.

uptonogood: uh, obama has the contributions of a lot more people people. not fake people but real people.

I meant the corporate contributions are not very different. I did not look at individual contributions.

I don't think there is a huge difference between O and H, but the differences that do exist are profound enough for me to support him.

Hillary
You're still here?
It's over.
Go home.
Go!

hillbillypharmacist: Looks like he's taken only $12,500 from PACs.

True, but 1% of her's is from PACs. He still is better in this regard of course and I give him high marks for this, but she's not exactly raising a huge eyebrow over here. The fact that he basically does not take money from PACs is a huge point, however.

PC LOAD LETTER: True, but 1% of her's is from PACs.

I was surprised it was that low, really. I expected much more.

Weaver95: however, she gets most of her money from lawyers.

Do be fair, lawyers have most of the money.

hillbillypharmacist: I was surprised it was that low, really. I expected much more.

LOL me too!

Memo To Hillary: Desperation is never appealing, especially in a politician many people didn't like to begin with. It's over Hillary. Unfortunately for you, you've staffed your entire campaign with sycophants and yes men, all of which are afraid to tell you so.

The parallels between Hillary and Bush just continue to pile up. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so disturbing.

"We'll take on the credit card companies so that you and your families aren't drowning in debt. Here in Ohio, payday lenders are actually taking Social Security checks from our elderly. That's outrageous.

Yes it is, but for a different reason. It isn't the payday loan stores fault that these people are in a bind. Of course it is easy to make them the debil and drum up support for her campaign based on this.

Darius Harris: FTFA: "Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) trashed an array of corporate interests in an economic speech in Ohio Thursday, vowing that as president she would go after oil, credit-card, insurance, pharmaceutical, investment and loan firms."

What's the matter, Hillary? They didn't pay up on their pledged donations to your campaign?

FTFA: "Today, I'm announcing an agenda to reign in the special interests...

"Rein in." She's going to rein in special interests, much like you would rein in a horse, Mr. Copy Editor. Why can't I find a job doing this sort of thing when the people doing it now suck so much?

Also, I don't believe her when she says she'll rein in special interests.

Also, why the hell do politicians say "My opponent"? Do they really think we'll forget the name of "their opponent"? It makes it seem like they've forgotten the name of their opponent.

The Democrate crab bucket is still functioning as it has for years. They'll never win the presidency until they stop appearing as "know whats best for you" asshats with no moral ground to stand on.

Clinton now trying to position herself as the best candidate to take on big business and special interests

A seemingly innocuous enough statement until it's viewed through an innuendo filter. Then you'll see the hidden images of a beefy matron with a complexion of a skinless poached potato rolling onto her tummy folds to thrust into the air a pocked and mottled hind to "take on big businesses" while on the far side of the thick thorax the head mechanically tilts upwards revealing above the wrinkled vellum of dangling wattle a slowly gaping maw like a fleshy iris opening for "special interests".

GeneSimmonz: The Democrate crab bucket is still functioning as it has for years. They'll never win the presidency until they stop appearing as "know whats best for you" asshats with no moral ground to stand on.

Does that mean, in order to be moral, they have to profess a belief in god and say his commands guide their decisions, or something less asshatish than that?

God told me to invade Iraq

SherKhan: Clinton now trying to position herself as the best candidate to take on big business and special interests

A seemingly innocuous enough statement until it's viewed through an innuendo filter. Then you'll see the hidden images of a beefy matron with a complexion of a skinless poached potato rolling onto her tummy folds to thrust into the air a pocked and mottled hind to "take on big businesses" while on the far side of the thick thorax the head mechanically tilts upwards revealing above the wrinkled vellum of dangling wattle a slowly gaping maw like a fleshy iris opening for "special interests".

*fap*

Yesterday, I got phone call regarding a political survey, I could tell it was from the Hillary camp, I told 'em I was voting for Obama XD

I_Hate_Iowa: Also, why the hell do politicians say "My opponent"? Do they really think we'll forget the name of "their opponent"? It makes it seem like they've forgotten the name of their opponent.

This exact point was made in the first episode of the second season of West Wing.

/Just saying.
//You'll note Obama routinely refers to his opponents by name in speeches.

Dinobot: Yesterday, I got phone call regarding a political survey, I could tell it was from the Hillary camp, I told 'em I was voting for Obama XD

"If the election were held today, would you vote for the senile old coot, the Muslim extremist, or the sexy, mature woman with great ideas?"

Snarfangel: "...or the sexy, mature woman with great ideas?"

Raquel is running?


She gives me ideas

Marcus Aurelius
Hillary's main tool in dealing with large corporations would include a nice big sloppy blow job. She was on the board of Wal-Mart, for Christ sakes. She'll pull her pants down for a large corporation faster then even her husband would.

Yeargh! While your point has much substance, you really need to work on your imagery. ::shudder::

GeneSimmonz
with no moral ground to stand on.

Compared to the party of torture and illegal domestic spying? Whatever you say there, ace.

Desperation is a stinky cologne

/not obscure

hillbillypharmacist: PC LOAD LETTER: In fairness, Obama looks basically the same in that regard.

Not really...

Looks like he's taken only $12,500 from PACs.

You are retarded.....

BARACK OBAMA (D)
Top Contributors

Goldman Sachs $421,763
Ubs Ag $296,670
Lehman Brothers $250,630
National Amusements Inc $245,843
JP Morgan Chase & Co $243,848
Sidley Austin LLP $226,491
Citigroup Inc $221,578
Exelon Corp $221,517
Skadden, Arps Et Al $196,420
Jones Day $181,996
Harvard University $172,324
Citadel Investment Group $171,798
Time Warner $155,383
Morgan Stanley $155,196
Google Inc $152,802
University of California $143,029
Jenner & Block $136,565
Kirkland & Ellis $134,738
Wilmerhale Llp $119,245
Credit Suisse Group $118,250

And Hillary is absolutely %100 full of shiat.....

HILLARY CLINTON (D)
Contributions by Sector

Lawyers/Law Firms
$12,452,460

Retired
$6,075,227

Securities & Investment
$6,035,184

Real Estate
$5,025,660

Business Services
$3,370,549

Misc Business
$2,821,181

TV/Movies/Music
$2,702,929

Health Professionals
$2,361,665

Misc Finance
$2,192,339

Education
$2,149,429

Computers/Internet
$1,370,344

Commercial Banks
$1,155,577

Civil Servants/Public Officials
$1,134,251

Printing & Publishing
$1,083,070

Misc Manufacturing & Distributing
$903,376

Retail Sales
$816,863

Accountants
$800,718

Lobbyists
$764,142

Non-Profit Institutions
$746,197

Insurance
$710,899

SherKhan:

O_o

Jesus christ, dude, that's some seriously effed up imagery.

All the more so because it seems to fit well.

Empanda: Some one should start a betting pool on how many times she'll change her positions before she drops out.

I'm guessing 1/x as x approaches 0.

Empanda: Some one should start a betting pool on how many times she'll change her positions before she drops out.

Reminds me of a joke: What do politicians and porno have in common?
You can watch people change positions 3 times in 15 minutes right in front of the camera.

Sorry. I hope you're not thinking of Hillary right now.

/it'll be all right.
//go check out the Rachel Weisz thread over in Showbiz

niteshift: BARACK OBAMA (D)
Top Contributors
...
HILLARY CLINTON (D)
Contributions by Sector
...

So it looks like roughly $50 million of interest group money for Hillary, and roughly $4 million for Obama.

No difference at all.

Please help - I'm trying to do some calculations here...

If Hillary has 8 years of experience in the white house as the first lady...

1. Does that mean Chelsea has 8 years also? And will she have 12 if HC wins?

2. And how many years does that give Monica, exactly - as the first mistress? (who probably spent more time in the Oval Office than Hillary for a while)