Save this article for the next time the RIAA sues some granny for downloading music, and invokes "performers' rights" as their excuse.

Just so I'm clear... It's cool when musicians or their surviving family members sue the record companies for royalites, but it's not cool when they expect YOU to pay to download their music, correct?

Record companies suck ass.

Listen to something else

BobtheFascist: Just so I'm clear... It's cool when musicians or their surviving family members sue the record companies for royalites, but it's not cool when they expect YOU to pay to download their music, correct?

If I steal from a thief, is it really theft?

BobtheFascist: but it's not cool when they expect YOU to pay to download their music, correct?

I would happily pay $1 per downloaded song provided that dough mostly goes to the artist and there wasn't super restrictive DRM that prevented me from playing the song via any electronic device I want.

/of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

lordargent: I would happily pay $1 per downloaded song provided that dough mostly goes to the artist and there wasn't super restrictive DRM that prevented me from playing the song via any electronic device I want.

/of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

I don't know why you bother. You can point out the flaws of the industry 'till you're blue in the face and no matter how high you pile the evidence some people will STILL shill for the record companies.

BobtheFascist: Just so I'm clear... It's cool when musicians or their surviving family members sue the record companies for royalites, but it's not cool when they expect YOU to pay to download their music, correct?

I think you're being obtuse.

The issue ever since Napster is that the MAFIAA have become an increasingly useless and greedy middleman. Unfortunately they're also cancerous - they're doing everything in their power to tinker with the market and not be rightly biatchsmacked by the Invisible Hand.

BobtheFascist: Just so I'm clear... It's cool when musicians or their surviving family members sue the record companies for royalites, but it's not cool when they expect YOU to pay to download their music, correct?

It's not cool when record companies claim to be protecting artists when they're really just trying to protect their cut of the theft.

The point is that we've been farked for so many years, it's time that the tables are turned. RIAA et. al think DRM is going to save them, even just for the short term.

They are wrong, and the more pressure is applied, the sooner the cancer is removed. I pay artists for their music. I refuse to pay the shills for trying to channel me into profit centers.

Rain-Monkey: The point is that we've been farked for so many years, it's time that the tables are turned. RIAA et. al think DRM is going to save them, even just for the short term.

They are wrong, and the more pressure is applied, the sooner the cancer is removed. I pay artists for their music. I refuse to pay the shills for trying to channel me into profit centers.

wait'll they make file trading a criminal offense.

I came here for the acknowledgement of the most Fark-worthy name on that list, but I guess I'm just gonna have to do it myself:

Les Brown, Richard Hayman, Dick Hyman, Woody Herman, Kitty Kallen,

... man, they don't name 'em like that no more.

lordargent: /of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

There's shiatloads of decent music, you just need to get lookin'.

leperboy69: lordargent: /of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

There's shiatloads of decent music, you just need to get lookin'.

Yeah, but that sort of thing gets you sued by the RIAA.

BobtheFascist: but it's not cool when they expect YOU to pay to download their music, correct?

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: The issue ever since Napster is that... it kept the music industry from tanking for a couple extra years.
*wink* FTFY slightly

Fair Use Doctrine/Black letter law. Try it sometime.

Dick Hyman



Yes, I do own this record.

Weaver95: leperboy69: lordargent: /of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

There's shiatloads of decent music, you just need to get lookin'.

Yeah, but that sort of thing gets you sued by the RIAA.

Reading magazines gets you sued? Just pick up an issue of Word, Mojo, or Uncut, and you'll find out about loads of good stuff.

/obligatory RIAA thread plug: have a free album

Weaver95: Yeah, but that sort of thing gets you sued by the RIAA.

Hah, I didn't mean in that way. There's plenty of legal ways to discover good new music, last.fm being an excellent example.

leperboy69: Hah, I didn't mean in that way. There's plenty of legal ways to discover good new music, last.fm being an excellent example.

Thanks for the heads up on that one. I've been using Pandora.com which is pretty good, and it has a very extensive library.

Stickitodamon Intheosis

lordargent: of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

when people say this, are they trolling, stupid, just ignorant, or some combination?

mahavishnunj: lordargent: of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

when people say this, are they trolling, stupid, just ignorant, or some combination?

No, they are displaying personal preference. For me, the music died in about 1985, about half way through Jimmy Barnes' second bottle of Jack Daniels during Cold Chisel's Last Stand concert.

It flickers into life every now and then - Wolfmother springs to mind - but then Britney releases another album and something dies inside me.

daniellynn's real dad: mahavishnunj: lordargent: of course, there's hardly any decent music these days, so it's a moot point now

when people say this, are they trolling, stupid, just ignorant, or some combination?

No, they are displaying personal preference. For me, the music died in about 1985, about half way through Jimmy Barnes' second bottle of Jack Daniels during Cold Chisel's Last Stand concert.

It flickers into life every now and then - Wolfmother springs to mind - but then Britney releases another album and something dies inside me.

It's not so much preference as self-enforced ignorance. You don't know what's out there, and slag off what's on the radio, thinking it's a representation of true music.

danduran: It's not so much preference as self-enforced ignorance. You don't know what's out there, and slag off what's on the radio, thinking it's a representation of true music.

exactly