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(Guardian.com) Interesting New documentary claims Blue Cheer's "Summertime Blues" was the very first heavy metal song. Evidence: "The band could not play and the lead singer could not sing"   (music.guardian.co.uk) divider line 39
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SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2008-02-15 06:10:15 PM  
i've actually heard that claim before.
Rush does a really good cover of that version too.

 
madmann [TotalFark] 2008-02-15 06:59:09 PM  
Yeah, that's one of them tunes that's so damn good that it's pretty hard to ruin it. I never heard the claim either, but I suppose that's how you get press.

 
DonnyBaker [TotalFark] 2008-02-15 07:14:56 PM  
I'm surprised that no one has yet to post a youtube of the band.

Here, enjoy the hair do's. (new window)

 
pnuttzz 2008-02-15 07:29:10 PM  
Here's the documentary. (pops)

Complete with Dio dissing Gene Simmons goodness.

 
TSE 2008-02-15 07:29:56 PM  
I'D LOVE TO HELP YOU SON, BUT YOU'RE TOO YOUNG TO VOTE.

 
pnuttzz 2008-02-15 07:33:31 PM  
BTW - it's not a "new" documentary.

meh\

 
Torc 2008-02-15 07:34:09 PM  
Then wouldn't the Shaggs be the first female heavy metal band?

 
carmody 2008-02-15 07:40:09 PM  
A friend of mine saw Blue Cheer play recently and said they still kick maximum ass.

And Torc, the Shaggs were the first female heavy mental band. There's supposedly a Hollywood biopic about them in the works at present.

/threadjack over

 
j t robot 2008-02-15 07:45:51 PM  
i've watched that documentary a few times...own the 2-disc edition. i don't recall this being said.

geddy lee talks about blue cheer and they flash a bit of the video for "summertime blues" during a segment about who to credit for being the first metal band, not what the first metal song was.

sam dunn's wise choice for first metal band is not blue cheer. check out the documentary. great stuff.

 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] 2008-02-15 07:51:56 PM  
I loved them - have both albums on my iPod. Saw them, I think, but that was the Acid Days so who knows if it was live or in my head?

Fruit and icebergs...

 
craigdamage 2008-02-15 07:58:00 PM  
Black Sabbath has always cited Blue Cheer as their primary influence.

That article was quite idiotic.

Mistakes aplenty.

Led zeppelin was formed in July of 1968. ("Led Zeppelin did not exist in 1968")--from the article.

Also from the moronic article--"Whatever their long-term contribution to the evolution of the metal genre, Blue Cheer sucked"

Blasphemy.


"Vincebus Eruptum" and "Outside Inside" are pure masterpieces.

"Summertime Blues" is actually probably the weakest track off of both those milestone recordings.



Metal,doom,stoner,grunge,punk...etc...or anything considered "HEAVY" owes an awful lot to Blue Cheer,The Stooges and MC5.

All three of those artists had heavy-ass records out before the first Black Sabbath album.

 
radioman_ 2008-02-15 08:06:53 PM  
Blue Cheer's Vincebus Eruptum informs a personal first in my own life - it the first LP I ever recorded onto one of those new-fangled cassette tapes. I plugged the cassette recorder into the aux RCA jacks on the back of my mother's console stereo and and behold - I was early RIAA fodder.

Having been a musically inclined and knowledgeable teenager at the time of Blue Cheer's emergence and still owning that same, still playable copy of Vincebus Eruptum - with the embossed cover - I have to say there is some merit to this thesis. Although I considered them to be acid rock, there is a proto-metallic twinge to their sound.

 
Jedekai 2008-02-15 08:18:55 PM  
Blue Cheer's "Summertime Blues", at least in music theory, is the first actual identifiable heavy metal song - according to 'The Sound of The Beast' by Ian Christe. (I'd make every music geek read it.)
Worth noting, purely for flaming, Smashing Pumpkins have released a lot of songs that would count as heavy metal.
I'd say X.Y.U. and Zero are more thrash oriented than a lot of metal bands were even doing in the 90's.

 
Rberry 2008-02-15 08:52:04 PM  
I've heard that for decades. That's nothing new.

 
zvoidx 2008-02-15 08:53:21 PM  
Although not the "inventors" of Heavy Metal; Van Halen was a major influence on the 80's Metal sound.

 
TSE 2008-02-15 09:23:06 PM  
Jedekai: Worth noting, purely for flaming, Smashing Pumpkins have released a lot of songs that would count as heavy metal.

Absolutely. Including most of the new album...Billy Corgan has said more than once that _Master Of Reality_ is one of his favorites evAR.

 
RocketRod [TotalFark] 2008-02-15 09:41:35 PM  
SilentStrider: Rush does a really good cover of that version too.

Pretty much EVERY band does a good cover of "Summertime Blues", no big stretch.

BUT... I do blame my old pals, Matt and Gunnar for the death of 80's metal.

 
MiamiBlues 2008-02-15 09:47:57 PM  
I Want You (She's so Heavy)?

 
MiamiBlues 2008-02-15 09:49:39 PM  
Or, we could go to the White Album -- Helter Skelter? Most of side three?

 
oldandwiser 2008-02-15 10:02:54 PM  
MiamiBlues.....I always though that Helter Skelter was the first heavy metal song in retrospect. Blue Cheer was the first heavy metal band, there is no doubt about it.

 
zvoidx 2008-02-15 10:08:17 PM  
1962... Monster Mash FTW! :D

 
irockalot 2008-02-15 10:44:08 PM  
Doesn't Dave Davies claim to have "invented" heavy metal?

 
oldandwiser 2008-02-15 10:55:46 PM  
irockalot......Did he say what song. I have all the albums up to Village Green and don't recall any heavy metal.

 
ZoSo_the_Crowe 2008-02-15 11:15:36 PM  
My Classic Rock professor at USC (yes, they have a classic rock class) named Blue Cheer as the first heavy metal band as well.

 
konigsforst 2008-02-16 01:27:12 AM  
for me it was the accused

/?why not for you?

 
84Charlie 2008-02-16 01:42:16 AM  
I think that You Really Got Me or All Day and All of the Night by the Kinks was the first heavy metal song(s). Not as gritty as Blue Cheer, but just as heavy.

 
deevo 2008-02-16 02:04:20 AM  
I also would consider You Really Got Me to be the first heavy metal song.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-02-16 09:06:08 AM  
SilentStrider: Rush does a really good cover of that version too.


Blue Cheer's version is a cover as well.


agreed that it's the weakest track on the album as well.

 
frickinyeahyeahyeah 2008-02-16 11:44:19 AM  
Hendrix, Spanish Castle Magic. Pretty metallic. For '67.

 
craigdamage 2008-02-16 01:59:41 PM  
Minor key + fuzz or overdrive equals HEAVY. (descending notes/chords is even heavier)


A lot of the early "metal" was too bouncy tempo and in a major key.


That is why the first Black Sabbath is so amazingly HEAVY.

Slower and more minor with very heavily overdriven guitar and bass de-tuned to a lower pitch.


(Geezer,the bassist for Sabbath said the crunchy bass sound was actually then a mistake. He blew out some of the speakers on his amp just before recording and really had to crank it during the session)

 
Kuta 2008-02-16 02:09:34 PM  
While it may be debatable about San Francisco's role in the origin of metal, it is most definitely a metal loving town.

Metallica? Faith No More? Testament?

/STFU prissy Briton

 
Mole Man 2008-02-16 02:58:19 PM  
You know who else like covering summertime blues?

www.rhino.com

/"Skippy, what's the name of the band playing on stage?"


"Who."


"The name of the band playing on stage."


"Who!"

"Skippy, Do you see the band playing on stage?"


"No, I don't see The Band, that's a different group entirely."

 
MikoSquiz 2008-02-16 04:14:20 PM  
Ah, the good old days when metal actually rocked instead of just playing as many notes as possible as fast as possible.

 
roddikinsathome 2008-02-16 05:02:09 PM  
Mole Man: "No, I don't see The Band, that's a different group entirely."

An Animaniacs refferance in a \m/ Thread? I beer u now.
*pops-fizz pour (glugluglug)*
You are welcome.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-02-16 05:08:50 PM  
roddikinsathome: An Animaniacs refferance in a \m/ Thread? I beer u now.
I think I recall seeing that in an old Mad Magazine.

/you can stay on my lawn, I'm not old, I just had the "Mad About the 60s" archive book.

 
m2313 2008-02-16 06:21:43 PM  
MikoSquiz: Ah, the good old days when metal actually rocked instead of just playing as many notes as possible as fast as possible.

That's shred, not metal. Although metal does have kickass guitarists.

 
maxamillian988 2008-02-17 02:05:31 AM  
helter skelter. nuff said

 
mahavishnunj 2008-02-17 11:01:53 AM  
carmody: And Torc, the Shaggs were the first female heavy mental band. There's supposedly a Hollywood biopic about them in the works at present.

this is excellent news.

 
bigbottom 2008-02-18 10:37:15 AM  
I still have the 45 of Blue Cheer's Summertime Blues, it's really scratchy but I still have it!

 
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