Reading that made my brain hurt.

Whatever happens this election year, at least we're trading up.

"I mean, their vision is, like, really dark and dim"

Good god, George.

Though to be fair he doesn't sound nearly as bad in the video as he comes across in the transcript. He just a rambling, disjointed speaking style that (usually) isn't that egregious when heard, but which comes across as nigh-on retarded in print.

Confabulat: Reading that made my brain hurt.

Watching it was worse. His body language betrays a lot also.

Ok, having listened to the video, I'm going to have to call shenanigans on both subby and the BBC. He use the word "trapped" in response to a statement by the interviewer that China said "America is trapped in Cold War thinking."

The transcript changed the quote in the question to "America is [slipping back into] Cold War thinking", for no apparent reason.

Here's the full quote from Dubya- "America is trapped in this notion that we care about human life. We respect human dignity. And that's not a trap. That's a belief." Which makes perfect sense.


There are plenty of stupid things Bush has said, but this is twisting something out of context.

?

If I answered "Yeah" to a question my first grade teacher rapped me upside the head with a ruler. Mrs. Keyhole, where are you now? Your country needs you.

Churchill2004: There are plenty of stupid things Bush has said, but this is twisting something out of context.

Sounds more like he completely garbled what he was trying to say. Even in context it's completely backwards. He should have said "China would like to trap America in this notion that we don't care about human life. The fact of the matter is that we respect human life and the dignity of all people. And that's not a trap. That's a belief." So, Dubya does it again - We'll call it a freudian slip.

those who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives are evil people.

How many dead Iraqis are there?

I'm no Bush supporter, but this was definitely taken out of context. Not that that would be hard to accidentally do. He could use some help with the ol' sentence structure thing.

/Just call me Cap'n Obvious

Churchill2004: I'm going to have to call shenanigans on both subby and the BBC.

Thank you Sir! I shall wear my shenanigans with pride.

Shaggy_C: Even in context it's completely backwards.


Exactly. I was watching the interview and when he blurted that out it was a 'Hunh??!!?? wtf is he going on about?' moment.

/submitter obviously
//at least this green light reduces my ratio of pr0n greens from 50% to 33% :)

"I - I go where needed. And - no, I'm going there because I've got a firm, heartfelt commitment to the continent of Africa and have ever since I became president. General interest - national interest that we have people who are suffering from disease and hunger and hopelessness. The only way a radical can recruit is to find somebody who's hopeless. I mean, their vision is, like, really dark and dim. Plus - I believe without to whom much is given, much is required. And - America's been given a lot. And it's required of us to help those that suffer. So... mine is a mission of mercy and a mission of the cold realism of the world in which we live - based upon the realism of the world in which we live."

Seriously, if you can watch this guy and not think he is either on something or damaged in the head you have never been around anybody who is on something or damaged in the head. Totally gone. just scary.

I find it really amusing that he claims with a (presumably) straight face that none of his advisers suggested to him that securing Iraq might require more troops than we sent. Jesus...

The only way a radical can recruit is to find somebody who's hopeless. I mean, their vision is, like, really dark and dim.

This is a sixteen year old high kid giving a last minute verbal report on terrorism.

Andric: I find it really amusing that he claims with a (presumably) straight face that none of his advisers suggested to him that securing Iraq might require more troops than we sent. Jesus...

Its called a lie, and nobody ever gets called on them anymore. say it: LIE. THE PRESIDENT IS LYING

slackist: pr0n greens

Hmmm...I think I've found my new way into greenlight superstardom.

Someone just get this idiot out of office. It's bad enough he does things like this at home but please just try, just f*****g TRY to seem a little more intelligent when you are representing the entire nation overseas please...... PLEASE!!!

Mr Bush: I think we are. Yeah. You know, I had to make a seminal decision.

Shaggy_C: Hmmm...I think I've found my new way into greenlight superstardom.


It's not as easy as it sounds. I have personally invested hours of selfless research, with very limited results.

Bush, FTA: And so I care really about is the results of the programmes.

Did he really say it with the extra "me"?

Reading through this mtranscript, I'm embarrassed to be an American. Seriously, this man is a simpleton, and it's never been more obvious than in unscripted interviews like this. I have a hard time imagining a single person stupid enough to vote for this idiot.

Wow! We're giving more money than ever to help fight AIDS in Africa! Oh, wait. You say it's mostly for abstinence-only education programs? You mean African countries have been dropping mixed education programs, just for the cash? Well, let's give ourselves a pat on the back...

tharrisw: Reading through this mtranscript, I'm embarrassed to be an American. Seriously, this man is a simpleton, and it's never been more obvious than in unscripted interviews like this. I have a hard time imagining a single person stupid enough to vote for this idiot.

THIS.

I just read through it for the fourth time and if you can still support this joker being the leader of the free world, you are a goddamn idiot.

Anyone else notice the president and Tom Cruise have a similar manner of speaking?

I'm not saying they're the same person or anything, although there's maybe one brain between the two of them. I'm suggesting that Bush is a scientologist. It would explain everything. The evil, the lies, the stupid.. it's all there.

/Engage tin foil hats!

boomaze: Andric: I find it really amusing that he claims with a (presumably) straight face that none of his advisers suggested to him that securing Iraq might require more troops than we sent. Jesus...

Its called a lie, and nobody ever gets called on them anymore. say it: LIE. THE PRESIDENT IS LYING

Someone called him on it today. And it was good.

Intelligence chief tells Bush that approving new FISA bill is giving in to terrorists.

cltbuilder: boomaze: Andric: I find it really amusing that he claims with a (presumably) straight face that none of his advisers suggested to him that securing Iraq might require more troops than we sent. Jesus...

Its called a lie, and nobody ever gets called on them anymore. say it: LIE. THE PRESIDENT IS LYING

Someone called him on it today. And it was good.

Intelligence chief tells Bush that approving new FISA bill is giving in to terrorists.


Yeah, forgive me for being cynical, but I read that as "Yadayadayadatoughtalkyada WE are gonna pass the fisa bill with immunity"


NO LEADERSHIP in this country. Honestly, if the congress was even remotely decent there would have been impeachment proceedings long ago. Democrats are now just as guilty of not doing their job. THE FUKKING ROGER CLEMENS HEARING IS DIVIDED ALONG POLITICAL LINES. Jesus Christ

Can somebody find the Bush Derangement Syndrome picture for the subby and the people who have responded?

Churchill2004: Here's the full quote from Dubya- "America is trapped in this notion that we care about human life. We respect human dignity. And that's not a trap. That's a belief." Which makes perfect sense.

I'm going to have to go ahead a disagree with you there.

Sorry boomaze. I found it refreshing that someone finally calls Bush out. It's late, but it's not too late.

randomjsa: Can somebody find the Bush Derangement Syndrome picture for the subby and the people who have responded?

Dude, go through that transcript with a red pen and pretend you are grading an 8th graders paper. I'll wait.


cltbuilder:
Sorry boomaze. I found it refreshing that someone finally calls Bush out. It's late, but it's not too late.


No, its too late. And this will pass with immunity as soon as they come back. And idiots like randomjsa will follow this clown into Hell.

Mentat:

That was perfect.

whereisian: I'm going to have to go ahead a disagree with you there.

It makes sense when you couple it with the original statement that he was responding to. It's a well established rhetorical device, even if his delivery was less than perfect.

I'm not saying it was wonderfully eloquent or anything, but portraying it as another out-of-the-blue stupid thing Bush has said is inaccurate.

boomaze: randomjsa: Can somebody find the Bush Derangement Syndrome picture for the subby and the people who have responded?

Dude, go through that transcript with a red pen and pretend you are grading an 8th graders paper. I'll wait.


cltbuilder:
Sorry boomaze. I found it refreshing that someone finally calls Bush out. It's late, but it's not too late.


No, its too late. And this will pass with immunity as soon as they come back. And idiots like randomjsa will follow this clown into Hell.

Yes, this is true, boomaze

Also,

boomaze: cltbuilder: boomaze: Andric: I find it really amusing that he claims with a (presumably) straight face that none of his advisers suggested to him that securing Iraq might require more troops than we sent. Jesus...

Its called a lie, and nobody ever gets called on them anymore. say it: LIE. THE PRESIDENT IS LYING

Someone called him on it today. And it was good.

Intelligence chief tells Bush that approving new FISA bill is giving in to terrorists.


Yeah, forgive me for being cynical, but I read that as "Yadayadayadatoughtalkyada WE are gonna pass the fisa bill with immunity"


NO LEADERSHIP in this country. Honestly, if the congress was even remotely decent there would have been impeachment proceedings long ago. Democrats are now just as guilty of not doing their job. THE FUKKING ROGER CLEMENS HEARING IS DIVIDED ALONG POLITICAL LINES. Jesus Christ


This is true. These two aspects of our political climate, in short, make my cynicism (contingently) iron clad

cltbuilder: boomaze: Andric: I find it really amusing that he claims with a (presumably) straight face that none of his advisers suggested to him that securing Iraq might require more troops than we sent. Jesus...

Its called a lie, and nobody ever gets called on them anymore. say it: LIE. THE PRESIDENT IS LYING

Someone called him on it today. And it was good.

Intelligence chief tells Bush that approving new FISA bill is giving in to terrorists.

thanks

Churchill2004: It makes sense when you couple it with the original statement that he was responding to.

No it doesn't. It goes from Spielburg/Darfur/China (semi-coherent) to a question about US cold war thinking, to which he responds with a baseball metaphor (which I don't get) to his brilliant statement about human life to the "human condition matters to our own national security".

Now that I've reread it, it makes even less sense. Maybe if I watch the video, it will. But I won't, 'cause I'm going to bed.

randomjsa: Can somebody find the Bush Derangement Syndrome picture for the subby and the people who have responded?

Where's the derangement? The man is a moron, and he has repeatedly failed over the past eight years. The only derangement going on here is the people who somehow still support Bush.

whereisian: Churchill2004: It makes sense when you couple it with the original statement that he was responding to.

No it doesn't. It goes from Spielburg/Darfur/China (semi-coherent) to a question about US cold war thinking, to which he responds with a baseball metaphor (which I don't get) to his brilliant statement about human life to the "human condition matters to our own national security".

Now that I've reread it, it makes even less sense. Maybe if I watch the video, it will. But I won't, 'cause I'm going to bed.

I don't dispute that he was rambling and incoherent. In and of itself, though, the quote in the headline is a reasonable (if still somewhat odd) response.

/maybe I'm being nitpicky

Subby wins the out-of-contest quote award!

LordPistachio: Subby wins the out-of-contest quote award!

I'll put it on the mantlepiece with my sheninigans. :-)

LordPistachio:
Subby wins the out-of-contest quote award!

Is it really a win if there's no contest?

Some may be assuming that subby is implying that you can tell by the quote, which without context, means that the quoted does believes America does not care about human life, is from George W. Bush because popular perception from a certain political mindset is that he does not.

However, Subby can also present this quote in a different matter. Perhaps you are supposed to infer it is our illustrious leader speaking because instead of being outwardly insidious, he's merely farking retarded and can't form a logical, cohesive farking sentence.

In which case, headline is completely fair.

This interview makes me want to farking cry. Actually, no. This interview makes me want to go out and punch every other person I meet on the street in the farking face. What the fark is wrong with you stupid farking retards?!

HOW DID YOU LET THIS MAN LEAD US FOR EIGHT YEARS?!

He's farking stupid! Not average! I know average farking people! They do better than this! The local city councilman does better than this on the evening news, and HE'S farkING SENILE!

God damn it! fark! God! Arrrrrrrrgh!

Ya know, I keep on reading about him referring to "elites" as if it was a bad group. Now, I may be considered an "elite" but I was taught that being a "dumb-f**k" and "drug abuser" and "complete failure" and "coward" were bad things. Perhaps I wasn't sheltered by my daddy's friends.

I guess I'm stuck being "elite".

I can guarantee that no one who ever voted for this chimp would be considered "elite".

British saying the Americans don't respect human life?

Uhh... lemme tell you about that whole "brutalizing natives in their own countries while ripping out the resources under their feet" thing you had going on for about a century.

We're still cleaning up all the shiat you left behind: Iraq, Iran, postpartition India, North Africa, and probably the biggest one, Israel.

Clean up the mess, then we'll talk about our errors.

Not a fan of Bush in the least, but did anyone actually listen to the interview? The transcript seems terrible but I thought that this was a rare occasion where he sounded...mostly sane. It isn't anything special, and couldn't be misconstrued as eloquent. However, this is probably about the best job he has done in representing this country in his eight years as a president.

No Bush fan here, but people who don't understand what he's trying to say are either A) trying to misunderstand him, or B) dumb. To paraphrase a fairly clear statement to make it even clearer:

Interviewer - The Chinese say you're trapped in Cold War thinking.
Bush - The only thing we're "trapped" in is a respect for human life. And that's ok with me.

Did he formulate it that clearly? No. He was speaking off the cuff, and that's not always going to be quite as clear. The transcript tries to garble it further by restating the question to eliminate the language Bush was responding to/co-opting. What's more, it also changes the content, as trapped in implies you never left, whereas falling back into means you're actually going back. The fail here lies with the BBC.

There were more than a few things I had to read repeatedly and still didn't understand; getting the distinct impression that he didn't either. This is what he says to a real news organization after seven years to prepare?
You Americans do realise that he can still be impeached?

Churchill2004: "I mean, their vision is, like, really dark and dim"

Good god, George.

Though to be fair he doesn't sound nearly as bad in the video as he comes across in the transcript. He just a rambling, disjointed speaking style that (usually) isn't that egregious when heard, but which comes across as nigh-on retarded in print.

In all seriousness, I hope he's talking about their quality of life and not their skin color.

Right before that he says "The only way a radical can recruit is to find somebody who's hopeless." Does that mean all Africa is now a terrorist? When does the bombing start? Don't tell me Bush is going all soft on terror like the dems!

Jesus Christ. It took my three hours to read that, between bouts of mirth and nausea. What a headbang. It reads like David Foster Wallace with a dash of James Joyce and I think there's a even a whiff of, yes, Robert Mugabe in there.

My favourite bit: So... mine is a mission of mercy and a mission of the cold realism of the world in which we live - based upon the realism of the world in which we live. W.T.F?

Also: And I'm happy with Iraq. Sounds like: "I'm happy with baked potato instead of fries with that." I mean, you can actually hear the shrug there.

slackist: It's not as easy as it sounds. I have personally invested hours of selfless-abusing research, with very limited sticky results.

... and now I feel dirty.

Onager: British saying the Americans don't respect human life?

Uhh... lemme tell you about that whole "brutalizing natives in their own countries while ripping out the resources under their feet" thing you had going on for about a century.

We're still cleaning up all the shiat you left behind: Iraq, Iran, postpartition India, North Africa, and probably the biggest one, Israel.

Clean up the mess, then we'll talk about our errors.

Looks like this interview really hit a nerve, huh? Tell you what. You sit down and sob quietly to yourself, I won't post one of those "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!" pictures, or otherwise remind you about all the little Dictatorships that America has propped up. Or you can stick to the topic of the thread.