How else are we supposed to get the best president that money can buy?

Let the third world dictatorships have the bargain basement cull.

No newsflash tag?

Just when I thought I couldn't hate this country any more.

I doubt there's any foul play here. I don't think anybody anticipated this coming down to superdelegates more than a year ago. Most of this stuff is for the 2006 election or before.

campaign contributions over the last three years

I wonder how this compares with donations from other sitting senators and party elites during the same time period? Without that information this is a bit useless. Also, I would like to see how Ms Clinton and Mr. Hussein Obama's PACs donated to other candidates that are not superdelegates during the period as well. More information is necessary before I'll consider condemning either of them.

SOLD, to the highest bidder!

The ~$890k shown is the cumulative amount of several democratic campaigns over the span of several years.

EVERY DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN AND GOVERNOR IS A SUPERDELEGATE (as well as several other elected officials). This article is misleading at best.

Democrats contribute to congressional and governorship campaigns..
what a shocker.

pS:

subby fails

An interesting sidenote, based on some cursory research by yours truly:


While Obama has received the support of numerous state governors, state legislators and local officials, it does not appear that his leadership PAC or presidential candidate committee has contributed to any of them. His PAC did make one interesting contribution in 2006: for her Senate re-election, Hillary Clinton received a $4,200 contribution from Obama. Link (new window)

So he gave money to Clinton during the last campaign - sounds like bribery to me! Seriously though, a lot of the superdelegates are senators and congressmen; all this seems to indicate is that Obama has been supportive of fellow Democrats on the national stage over the last 2 elections. Stop the presses!

Shaggy_C: So he gave money to Clinton during the last campaign - sounds like bribery to me! Seriously though, a lot of the superdelegates are senators and congressmen; all this seems to indicate is that Obama has been supportive of fellow Democrats on the national stage over the last 2 elections. Stop the presses!

And more supportive than Clinton to boot.

Shaggy_C: This thread is over.

Is that is US Dollars or real money?

Looks like it's going to be a close race between Ebony and Ovary.

Obvious tag on vacation?

Yeah I'm a Superdelegate, so if you could just make that check out to cash and send it to me that would be awesome.

Obama is giving more to other candidates, yet trailing noticeably in Superdelegates? Subby, I think the facts undermine your headline.

Of course, would you really expect a Hillary PAC to benefit anyone other than Hillary??

/Sorta like the famous Clinton 'coattails' that lost the Dems both houses of Congress

What may have happened is a lot of the money that Obama raised for his senate bid in 2004 got sent to other Democrats. He was running against Alan Keyes, and you could have run a turd sandwich against and he Obama would have won. Once he clinched the race, Obama ended up spending his time campaigning for other Democrat hopefuls.

Anagrammer 2008-02-15 02:01:01 AM
Looks like it's going to be a close race between Ebony and Ovary.

OK, that was pretty sweet.

It's not bribery when we do it.

jebusfreak: He was running against Alan Keyes, and you could have run a turd sandwich against and he Obama it would have won.

woops

Chalk this one up under "Duh".

jebusfreak 2008-02-15 02:17:36 AM
jebusfreak: He was running against Alan Keyes, and you could have run a turd sandwich against and he Obama it would have won.

woops

And the Republican cesspool of candidates has only gotten shallower and muckier since then.

BitwiseShift: Is that is US Dollars or real money?

WIN!

here is how it goes - after a campaign has run itself to its conclusion, be it win or lose, it might have left-over money from donors. that money cannot be pocketed by the politician. that money is then distributed by the discretion of the campaign to other campaigns.

this is not new. i have no idea what the outrage is here.

/worked on a nonprofit political campaign once upon a time.

And here I thought all political conclaves were decided in public washrooms.

I'm astonished, purely astonished.

Anagrammer: Looks like it's going to be a close race between Ebony and Ovary.

Oh God YES! I just came in my mouth a little bit.

Wait... can't you hire a hit man for each superdelegate for less than that? Brings a new meaning to "vote or die."

I remember the first time I finger-banged a dog's ass. I was surprised at how tight it was. After subsequent finger-bangings of various dfferent dogs, I realized that their asses are not so tight afte all and are in fact quite loose.

CaptainFatass Are you sure you meant to post that here, or were you simulposting on Craigslist M4M?

submitter: Apparently Democrats can buy their way to the nomination

Stop being a farking idiot.

Since 2005? Okay, I'm not sure there's a story here.

jebusfreak: What may have happened is a lot of the money that Obama raised for his senate bid in 2004 got sent to other Democrats. He was running against Alan Keyes, and you could have run a turd sandwich against and he Obama would have won. Once he clinched the race, Obama ended up spending his time campaigning for other Democrat hopefuls.

I believe that's the bulk of it. Obama had raised quite a lot of money in 2004 (while he was running against Jack Ryan). After it became Keyes, honestly it would have been a dumb waste to do a major media buy when he was going to win anyway. He doesn't just "keep" the cash, but rolls it into his PAC to pass it out to Democratic candidates. He has to empty his PAC before entering the presidential race.

/ Worried this is too nuanced for most people.

In case anyone is interested in keeping up with the election. (new window)

Bootysama: And more supportive than Clinton to boot.

Here's a good article on that.

2006 was a Democratic opportunity, and grassroots supporters dug deep and then deeper to finance an ever-expanding array of competitive races. Hillary, meanwhile, made a conscious decision to raise $52 million for a Senate campaign that she could have won in her pajamas, spent $40.8 million (to beat a token opponent who spent less than $6 million), and transferred the rest to her presidential campaign.
You could say she was just playing the game, but John Edwards and Barack Obama, in comparison, campaigned throughout the country to support worthy Democratic candidates, while doing negligible fundraising for their own pending campaigns. The Edwards campaign ended that season still in debt from 2004. Obama emerged with less than a million in the bank. Their top priorities really did seem to be helping other Democrats win a critical election, instead of subordinating all other goals to their own personal futures.


None of this is all that surprising, the Clintons have never had a problem selling out the party if it helps them personally.

New York Times is saying Rep. John Lewis is now casting his vote for Obama.

"Something is happening in America, and people are prepared and ready to make that great leap."

[facepalm]

Lewis was implicitly calling Obama a drug dealer before South Carolina. This election is stranger than fiction. I think Lewis behaved like a jackass, but welcome aboard the Obama-train.

/I guess.
//Bill can't drop his name anymore

Neurochemist: In case anyone is interested in keeping up with the election. (new window)

I like the 'no recent' polling data. For the first time in years, the election is proceeding in the dark, without the (supposed) influence of polls.

I should listen to some talk radio today to see if anyone mentions this. Or I could just listen to an semi-articulate 4-year old complain about all the other kids at pre-school.

Of course, there's also the fact that one of Clinton's superdelegates received a job with the Clinton campaign that paid something like 200K.

You better believe that her vote is locked in tight.

Almet: Or I could just listen to an semi-articulate 4-year old complain about all the other kids at pre-school.

You're already on Fark, what more do you want?

Approves.

duh

Superdelegate: Nice work, if you can get it.

with clinton, you can also pay her in souls.

CNN has some live footage of the candidates out on the campaign trail.

Okay, maybe it's not CNN. But it's not a Rick Roll.

Bil-la-ry for you and me
theyre buying our democracy
theyre spewing the hi-poc-ra-cy
Bil-la-ry for you and me

A politician paying off people to get elected? I, for one, am SHOCKED! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!

FAIL, subby.

cubsfan07: A politician paying off people to get elected? I, for one, am SHOCKED! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!

FAIL, subbycubsfan07.
/FTFY
//Read Duffer, Shaggy_C etc. above for why