Things are heating up

Obama communications director Robert Gibbs would only say, "John Edwards is a tireless voice for change and working families."

Similarly, Clinton's top spokesman Howard Wolfson said, "John Edwards is a champion of millions of Americans who too often are left behind and left out of our national debate."

Ah, the Edwards factor. Wonderin' when that was gonna pop up.

If Edwards is serious about wanting change for America he will give his endorsement to Obama no strings attached. Methinks he leans that way but is also aware that Hillary has a hellacious temper and the memory of an elephant and until he's sure she not gonna win he's playing his cards close to his chest.

If Edwards throws delegates Hillary's way in order to secure a Veep spot then he'll go down in Quatchi's Big Book of Pols as one of them guys who talks the talk and then walks backwards.

/Being Veep under Hillary is no kinda prize at all except fer maybe a Boobies prize.

I feel like it would be quite hard for Edwards to throw his delegates to Clinton.

She has had less votes, less states won and less delegates won. Throwing to her would be an obvious pander for a VP spot to try and override the voters choices.

Throwing to obama (as he has gotten far more votes already) makes it seem like he is helping the people's chocie win and stop a drawn out party battle.

Bill Frist: I feel like it would be quite hard for Edwards to throw his delegates to Clinton.

She has had less votes, less states won and less delegates won. Throwing to her would be an obvious pander for a VP spot to try and override the voters choices.

Throwing to obama (as he has gotten far more votes already) makes it seem like he is helping the people's chocie win and stop a drawn out party battle.

Definitely. Plus you can't go into debates and say "Me and Obama are the change candidates, she's the status quo" and then toss over your delegates. You look like a ridiculous job-grubbing panderbear.

It wasn't a tree fort, it was a conference room at a mill.

I wouldn't mind being a fly on that wall.

United States Attorney General John Edwards has an interesting ring to it. I can see Obama offering the position to Edwards for his support.

He's only got 26 delegates to give. I'd be surprised if he has much clout by the end of things. He might want to roll the dice now and get what promises he can.

Why, but he's the biggest douche in the universe!

quatchi: Obama communications director Robert Gibbs would only say, "John Edwards is a tireless voice for change and working families."

Similarly, Clinton's top spokesman Howard Wolfson said, "John Edwards is a champion of millions of Americans who too often are left behind and left out of our national debate."

Ah, the Edwards factor. Wonderin' when that was gonna pop up.

If Edwards is serious about wanting change for America he will give his endorsement to Obama no strings attached. Methinks he leans that way but is also aware that Hillary has a hellacious temper and the memory of an elephant and until he's sure she not gonna win he's playing his cards close to his chest.

If Edwards throws delegates Hillary's way in order to secure a Veep spot then he'll go down in Quatchi's Big Book of Pols as one of them guys who talks the talk and then walks backwards.

/Being Veep under Hillary is no kinda prize at all except fer maybe a Boobies prize.

Quick threadjack: Why does Quatchi post in third person?

I don't see Edwards getting the promises from Obama that he will almost certainly get from HillBill. Desperation is setting in at Camp Clinton and she certainly wants, or perhaps needs, those extra delegates.

Of course, if Virginia makes me proud and Maryland steps up on Tuesday it won't matter what Edwards offers or can bring to the table.

/Yes We Can.

Bill Frist: Things are heating up

robsul82: Plus you can't go into debates and say "Me and Obama are the change candidates, she's the status quo" and then toss over your delegates. You look like a ridiculous job-grubbing panderbear.

Indeed. It'd be hard for him to spin out of that one without looking like a total d-bag.

GaryPDX: I wouldn't mind being a fly on that wall.

no shiat... this race is going to one day make for an interesting movie.

An audio book is not a Spoken Word Album. Also the grammies are stupid.

Code_Archeologist: no shiat... this race is going to one day make for an interesting movie.

Yeah, but it's probably gonna be produced by TNT or something so no one will actually watch it. The trailers, though, will be phenomenal.


Denzel Washington as Obama
Meryl Streep as Clinton

Back to the original topic, Obama is only down by a little over twenty delegates after Me, including the superdelegates. If Edwards give him his support, that'll be what puts Obama over the edge.

Code_Archeologist: no shiat... this race is going to one day make for an interesting movie.

Working Title: "Americans couldn't develop a system of government that reflected the need to learn to agree to disagree and in an act of desperation each side demanded the government consolidate power in the hopes that their side would win the election thereby raising the stakes of winning so high that the most cut-throat individuals were attracted to elections and then..."

Beachcomber: Quick threadjack: Why does Quatchi post in third person?

Skleenar thinks that's pretty weird.

Lenny and Carl: He's only got 26 delegates to give. I'd be surprised if he has much clout by the end of things. He might want to roll the dice now and get what promises he can.

he only got 26 through waht? half the race? it is not about what he brings, but abouut what he might bring.....

/sorry...drunk
//got the next 2 days off of the Maryland primary...

After Obama won the areas hit by Katrina and Edwards spending much so time down there and championing their cause you would think that might have a big influence on his endorsment but we will see. Honestly I think the endorsement means less now than it would have before Super Tuesday because most of his supporters have already chosen sides by now.

I'm pretty sure Obama will give him the AG if he wants it. Hillary might promise it, but Edwards could do some harm there to her corporate backers, so I don't know if he'd really be appointed. The only reason I see Edwards backing the Clintons when the momentum is the other way is if they laid out some blackmail on him.

Lenny and Carl: He's only got 26 delegates to give. I'd be surprised if he has much clout by the end of things. He might want to roll the dice now and get what promises he can.

It's a close race. After today it is very nearly within a 26 delegate spread between Hillary and Obama. Plus, since Edwards it the "poverty guy," his support to a candidate would send a message to people who vote on that issue.

I agree that he doesn't have a whole lot of power, but Obama and Clinton are meeting with him for a reason.

I'm pretty sure Obama will give him the AG if he wants it. Hillary might promise it, but Edwards could do some harm there to her corporate backers, so I don't know if he'd really be appointed. The only reason I see Edwards backing the Clintons when the momentum is the other way is if they laid out some blackmail on him.

Yeah, but what kind of blackmail? He won't be running for president ever again and most other things can be swept under the rug even for a senate campaign. Look at Ted Kennedy.

Shaggy_C:

Excellent reference.

He's on fire!

/I'd endorse it

Hibno: He's on fire!

Boom-shakalaka!

Its alarm that he waited until Clinton was actually behind on points to make this move, He IS a lawyer. A big enough bribe could get him to be a speedbump against the Obamomentum train.

Mistah Scrotie: Back to the original topic, Obama is only down by a little over twenty delegates after Me, including the superdelegates. If Edwards give him his support, that'll be what puts Obama over the edge.

RCP has Obama up 3, including superdelegates.

Maybe they are trying to reach the spirit of Michael Dukakis for some inspiration??

I'm guessing Obama's group is meeting with him to discuss handing over the delegates for something and Clinton's is meeting with him to stop the handover to Obama.

Emailing Governor Ritter

Dear Governor Ritter,

I am emailing you today because you are listed as one of the Democratic superdelegates for the upcoming Democratic Convention in your great state. I have read that former President Clinton and Senator Clinton have been contacting various superdelegates in an effort to convince them to pledge their vote for Senator Clinton. Senator Obama may have contacted you as well, but the article in question did not say as much. I too wanted to let you know my feelings on the subject. I am a very proud supporter of Senator Obama. The fact that he is from my state is of small consequence to my support for him. I feel that Senator Obama is a candidate that has very good policy stances on topics that concern me as an American. Furthermore, he has inspired me to believe in the American spirit like no candidate has ever done in my lifetime. I also have two teenage sons who are not yet of voting age, and they too have been similarly inspired by Senator Obama. This is a very promising sign for the Democratic Party for the future.

Senator Clinton, on the other hand, also has similar policy stances which I cannot fault, but her method of campaigning is very different in my opinion. Her methods represent politics of yesteryear, a method of politicking that I am very weary of. I believe that Senator Obama is a call for an end to partisan politics, which is something I desire as much as anything else in politics.

Because of this, I wanted to let you know that if Senator Obama is not the Democratic Presidential nominee in November, then I will either be casting my vote for the Green Party or I will not be voting. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

xxxxxxxxxx

Not VP, or AG!
Make him the Secretary of Hair.

Beachcomber: /Being Veep under Hillary is no kinda prize at all except fer maybe a Boobies prize.

Quick threadjack: Why does Quatchi post in third person?

I have no flippin' idea.

But in this case, I completely agree. A Clinton Vice Presidency would have no influence whatsoever on policy (which would emerge immutable from Hillary, Bill, and hillaryland), and will not add to a political career. Unlike the Bush presidency, I do not believe a Clinton presidency will be detectably influenced in any way by the Vice President. Their veep will be busy jetting around to shout the Clinton message, take the heat for administration blunders, and look dignified at funerals of foreign leaders.

As the saying goes, the vice presidency ain't worth a pitcher of warm piss.

He sucked hard in the 2004 debate against Cheney. For that alone, he doesn't get the VP spot. Attorney General, maybe. HUD? Yeah, sure, knock yerself out John.

Nobody is going to give him a Veep spot and he knows it. He'll angle for something else, like the AG post. But the drawback is that if he endorses Obama and he loses, he'll be stuck in Democratic Party Siberia under the Clintons. He'll wait a bit longer to see which way the ball is rolling.

If not Edwards for VP? Who's the obvious choice?

/I like the idea of Edwards as Attorney General

Edsel Quote 2008-02-11 12:52:45 AM
Nobody is going to give him a Veep spot and he knows it.

Edwards doesn't WANT a VP spot and everyone knows it. Who would go through that again for the little rewards it brings.

Give Edwards the AG post. Give Clinton a cabinent post too, she would take that much better than a NP spot, no?

Skleenar: Beachcomber: Quick threadjack: Why does Quatchi post in third person?

Skleenar thinks that's pretty weird.

Skleenar thinks? Don't flatter yerself.

Why does Quatchi occasionally post in third person?

Not Bob Dole, Not Elmo, Not the Drake.

It's a kind of nod towards me mentor.

Cerebus.




Quatchi is also a fan of Bob Burden's Flaming Carrot




Thanx fer askin'! ^_^

Whatsleft: If not Edwards for VP? Who's the obvious choice?

/I like the idea of Edwards as Attorney General


There's a whole thread on this a few threads down.

If you just want my opinion straight off the bat (and I know you do), my early predictions are:

Sebelius
Biden
Webb
Richardson

Longshots:
Bradley
Bloomberg

Seems that we're forgetting a very important point here. Both Edwards and Clinton agreed on the principle of mandatory universal health care. While Obama sees the need for sweeping health care reforms, his proposals don't reach quite as far as Edwards might like.

As far as domestic policy goes, Clinton and Edwards see more eye-to-eye than Obama and Edwards... even though there are some obvious disconnects with Hillbilly's corporate backers. I think Edwards throws his support towards Hillary, unless he can convince Obama to adopt his health care and corporate reform platform.

robsul82: Bill Frist:

Throwing to obama (as he has gotten far more votes already) makes it seem like he is helping the people's chocie win and stop a drawn out party battle.

Definitely. Plus you can't go into debates and say "Me and Obama are the change candidates, she's the status quo" and then toss over your delegates. You look like a ridiculous job-grubbing panderbear.

And exactly what part about that moronic mistake DOESN"T sound like something the Democratic Party - and especially it's leadership - would do?

Pick a woman with a family history of pandering successfully with a guy who has quasi-successfully pandered before in a way that shows they're both idealists of convenience? Would they really do that?

/Difficulty: Remember that Congress is STILL rolling over for Bush.
//Democrat for lack of better choices.

The Bestest: If you just want my opinion straight off the bat (and I know you do), my early predictions are:

Sebelius
Biden
Webb
Richardson

Longshots:
Bradley
Bloomberg

Wrong on most counts, I'm afraid. You might be on to something with Richardson, but at this point the clear frontrunner for VP on either a Clinton or Obama ticket has to be Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana. Most of the Democratic establishment sees him as a strong prospect for a future presidential run... four-to-eight years of seasoning as VP might be just what the witch-doctor ordered.

Colbert_Slobs_Knobs: at this point the clear frontrunner for VP on either a Clinton or Obama ticket has to be Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana

Bayh already endorsed Clinton. I doubt that would look too good on Obama's ticket.

Echoic: Colbert_Slobs_Knobs: at this point the clear frontrunner for VP on either a Clinton or Obama ticket has to be Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana

Bayh already endorsed Clinton. I doubt that would look too good on Obama's ticket.

Not to mention that you'd be pairing a junior senator from the midwest with...a junior senator from the midwest.

Echoic: Hibno: He's on fire!

Boom-shakalaka!

the naiiil in the coffin!!

Echoic: Bayh already endorsed Clinton. I doubt that would look too good on Obama's ticket.

Despite having no earthly clue who in the hell Bayh is, I disagree: I would have so much respect that that - a move right out of the "Team of Rivals" playbook - that I'm almost choked up.

/Yes we can.

Mrs. Edwards is supposed to be speaking with Obama today a U of Maryland. I take this to be a good sign.

I wonder if Al Gore might be a possibility to either campaign? He may be done as a politician for all I know but the idea has a hell of a lot of merit for someone like Barack...he'd sway some of the pro-Clinton voters, and he has established himself as genuine statesman at this point. I think it would be a coup if Barack could pull that off...

Shaggy_C: Bill Frist: Things are heating up

If I remember right, Bill and Hillary are unlockable characters in that game.