Why does this not surprise me?

my first Weeners WOOOOO!!!

Postal workers suck... and I can say that as I intend never to change my address.

Perhaps the most greenlight worthy story EVAR!

damn you goat, damn you.

065Trimmaline: damn you goat, damn you.

I guess you really wanted that weener.

Step one) Skynet cuts off all communication with rural America.

Step two) ???

Step three) APOCALYPSE!!!

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065Trimmaline:

/seriously, grow up

Bleh. I've been fighting with my post office since December trying to get them to deliver my mail again.
They were just stealing anything interesting... now they don't even bother to drop anything off at all.

ErinPac: Bleh. I've been fighting with my post office since December trying to get them to deliver my mail again.
They were just stealing anything interesting... now they don't even bother to drop anything off at all.

Your post office sucks. Just sayin'.

they still deliver mail to rural routes? damn, that really takes me back. my address then was rural route 1, town, state, zip.

/i'm not kidding: get off my lawn, punk

Dispector: Your post office sucks. Just sayin'.

I'd have never guessed.

ErinPac: I'd have never guessed.

I'm glad I could help you see the truth finally. Someone has to do it.

I AM THE GOAT: Why does this not surprise me?

Because the postal service is the most useless money pit of all time.

ErinPac: Bleh. I've been fighting with my post office since December trying to get them to deliver my mail again.
They were just stealing anything interesting... now they don't even bother to drop anything off at all.

You tried going over their heads to the regional manager? Sounds like the locals are rather corrupt.

Of course, the postal service needs a legal monopoly on mail under $1, otherwise we'd all be screwed...right?

nativefloridian: You tried going over their heads to the regional manager? Sounds like the locals are rather corrupt.

Ya I did. The local manager called my cell back to yell at me that her workers were too "nice" to not be doing their jobs. I've lived here a year, and the local route worker just reports the address as "vacant/abandoned" everyday after I call them to tell them it's not.

I think I annoyed the local route worker by putting a stop payment on a check that walked away and reporting it as stolen. Oh... or putting complaints out on certified mail and tracked packages that disappeared. Or... well, it could have been a lot of things I guess.

I'm not even rural - suburbia I guess, but not far out of the city.

Oklahoma finally came into the 21st century by getting the 911 coverage area expanded, and unfortunately this is an after effect of said "progress" it boils down to lack of communication. I remember our address as starting out as a "star route" address then changing to a "rural route" then a "highway contract" or hc route then finally the 911 address. sad thing is this is a small town the postmaster knows everyone as well as the carrier knowing everyone. but if you don't address a letter using the 911 address it will get returned to you as unknown address.

/subby

They pulled this on my brother who lives in Maine. The 911 system changed his street number from 16 to 58 with all other information in the address unchanged and the post office just started returning all mail sent to him as "unknown address". What a pile of douche-heads.

Reminds me when 911 was enhanced near here. Where my buddy lived all of the odd numbered houses had to take even numbers and vice versa. His house went from #3 to #4.

hey nativefloridian, I am almost seven feet tall, I've grown up quite a bit in my years thank you very much. I also look nothing like a german shepard.

Seems to me that there are some overly anal Postmasters out there. I had a RFD address, and we went through the 911 switch about a decade ago. Our address changed, but our names (and our mail carrier) remained the same. So, even though the address had changed, we still got the mail because our carrier knew who we were. Same thing here in the city. I've moved across the block and back, but still was on the same carrier's route. I just told him I was moving, and he sorted it out without me having to file the COA.

/now I feel guilty, I should give the guy a better tip next Christmas...

065Trimmaline: hey nativefloridian, I am almost seven feet tall, I've grown up quite a bit in my years thank you very much. I also look nothing like a german shepard.

but i noticed you didn't deny smelling like a german shepard

/some n00bs are n00bier than others

nativefloridian: 065Trimmaline:

/seriously, grow up

yeah, you should.

in some cultures that's a sign of respect!

They did this when I was 14 back in the country. Everyone got a new street address, but we were told to notify everyone of the new address because they wouldn't deliver to the route 1 address after 1 year.

We got some of the old address (junk mail) years after. Probably until the new driver didn't know which address was which and just chunked it.

Shoulda just left it as PO Boxes, so when you call 911, you just get mailed a squad or ambulance!

Yeah I want government handling my health care. That's a great idea.

twiztedjustin: They did this when I was 14 back in the country. Everyone got a new street address, but we were told to notify everyone of the new address because they wouldn't deliver to the route 1 address after 1 year.

Apparently Oklahoma postal workers are idiots. The county I grew up in got 911 probably several years ago now before I went to college.
My parents have actually occasionally received mail with their old Star Route Address, and their old HCR address. Although I think they finally decided they were going to follow not delivering mail with the old address. Oddly enough, many times we would get mail for an address nowhere near our house after the change, but for years the difference between our address and our neighbor's address was their box had the same number but with an "A" and we would only occasionally get their mail.

/I still don't understand why they needed to change everyone's addresss.
//I would have just found it simpler to keep the Box Number, but instead of being RR, RD, HCR Box ###, it would be ### Street Name.
///Of course they also felt the need to change the name of some roads.
////Even had a debate about how one road's name was spelled with three options when all the signs for that road had it spelled the same way.

Welcome to the 21st century, you RR bozos.

We changed to a 911 address at least 10 years ago; however, if you send mail addressed to our old RR address it still gets to us.

http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp
"Search by Address" -> Address 1: RR 2 City: Laurel State: DE The sorting equipment doesn't even hiccup, it puts the full ZIP+4 bar code on envelope and it gets sorted the same as our regular street address.

The guy's county is what's screwed up, not the post office. The county has to inform the PO of the new addresses, PO isn't psychic.

My parents' address is STILL a RR with a box number ending in A. Of course, Dad is on the volunteer fire department, they live too far away for an ambulance to get there in time to do much, and most of the sheriff deputies are corrupt so 911 is a bit of a moot point.

/Arpelar, OK is full of WIN...

This isn't that hard to figure out. The problem is that it's county employees and postal employees trying to figure it out.

If it weren't for ebay, the post office would be dead by now.

47, If they weren't idiots, why would they be in Oklahoma?

Just kidding. I actually like Oklahoma, though I don't know why.

Bucky Katt: they still deliver mail to rural routes? damn, that really takes me back. my address then was rural route 1, town, state, zip.

/i'm not kidding: get off my lawn, punk

When the 911 system was put in where my family lives, all RR, RFD etc were changed and everyone now has a street address. They had to name a hell of a lot of little county lanes that never had names before, except for county and township numbers. It seems odd to see a street signs in the middle of a corn fields. I don't think the Amish were amused when they were forced to put street name signs on their lanes.

My district has a " if you know where it goes, deliver it " policy.
We also contact the customer to explain what's happening.
There is a grace period as well.

Stay classy, Southwest District

That's ok.

I have a P.O. box (one of those AT the post office - not one of those fake ones) and the Post Office on a regular basis will mark my mail - "Return to sender - no such address"

nutkick_42: My parents' address is STILL a RR with a box number ending in A. Of course, Dad is on the volunteer fire department, they live too far away for an ambulance to get there in time to do much, and most of the sheriff deputies are corrupt so 911 is a bit of a moot point.

/Arpelar, OK is full of WIN...

been through arpelar several times on highway 270. for some reason when i have went through there it looks like they have a police officer or two lurking.

I guess my setup was weird growing up. There was no rural route - we just flat out didn't have a number on the house until 911 rolled out about 10 years ago, so we couldn't take ground deliveries and HAD to have a post office box. This wasn't East Asshole, KS, either - just a toss outside of Troy in upstate NY.

The flip side is that our post masters were local old people who recognized you and wouldn't return mail that was spelt funny or had the wrong box number - your name and the right zip code was usually enough to get it to you.

Constance Velocity: This isn't that hard to figure out. The problem is that it's county employees and postal employees trying to figure it out.

If it weren't for ebay, the post office would be dead by now.

Don't complain about postal employees, they're better armed than the cops.

/Ever hear of anybody going deli?

I had some problems with our new 911 address as well. Same deal, post office would refuse to deliver mail. Thing is, my neighbor just so happens to be a regional type manager for the PO. According to her, they still have to deliver the mail. Technically, you have 2 addresses, and they cannot refuse to deliver the mail when they know your location.

Fact of the matter is, if they know the location of a person for whom they have mail for, they are required by law to attempt to deliver it. That is why you can address an envelope "President of the United States" and nothing more, and it will still be delivered to the White House. If they fail in this duty, they are interfering with the delivery of the mail, which is a felony.

So after a few convos with the postmaster for our area in which I pointed out that failure to deliver was a felony, and a good tongue lashing from his boss (my neighbor), it now doesnt matter which address is on the envelope. I get it.

What a pain in the behind. I'm in a similar situation - my address used to be something like 123 Maple Court. Never a problem getting mail or packages delivered from anywhere. Along comes 911 and changes it to RR 3 #123 and now not even Google can map it. The post office has been good about getting the mail to the right place, but receiving a package from UPS without three phone calls and a hand-drawn faxed map is still a dream for the future.

Constance Velocity:If it weren't for ebay, the post office would be dead by now.

And if it weren't for stick shifts, you'd have nothing to be smug about. ( Yup, it followed here )

47 is the new 42: //I would have just found it simpler to keep the Box Number, but instead of being RR, RD, HCR Box ###, it would be ### Street Name

Because RR Box numbers go in sequential order on one side of the street... 200, 201, 203.... But street addresses are required to be odd on one side, and even on the other. So addresses should be 200, 204, 208.


turbokat: My district has a " if you know where it goes, deliver it " policy.

That's great unless you have people who refuse to comply with their 911 addresses. We give them a year to notify everyone. There HAS to be an incentive or a lot of rural residents (who don't trust anyone) would never comply. You don't even have to put a mailbox up, but our (911) maps need to have you on there so we can find your paranoid ass if some Bubba is doing donuts in your front yard while firing off his shotgun (true story).

The paranoid ones always say they'll never use 911, but they get the most pissed when it doesn't work out in their favor.

Also, welcome to fifteen years ago, Oklahoma.


/assigns 911 addresses
//REALLY getting a kick out of these replies

Also, if this county or municipality had brought the Post Office (and the phone companies... also very important) in on this BEFORE they re-addressed everything and asked them how they'd like to be notified of all of the changes, they probably could've avoided most of this mess.

Send out a weekly report: "Here are all of the addresses we changed this week." That way the residents are slightly less pissed since they have one less thing to do (people are generally very pissed off if they get their address changed). I should be telling this to the 911 entity that changed all of the addresses in OK, but the article didn't really say who it was.

turbokat:
And if it weren't for stick shifts, you'd have nothing to be smug about. ( Yup, it followed here )

Creepy much?

If you're so offended by not being able to drive a stick, why didn't you say something in the appropriate thread?

When you go postal, are you going to just shoot everyone in the back?