Oh lord... Must we be the new Florida?

Well, it was kind of BS to call the race and quit counting with 87% of the votes in and a 1% difference in the vote totals between McCain and Huckster. He's totally in the right here...The repubs have been doing some weird stuff this year - remember the whole Ron Paul thing in Louisiana? We may never know what the actual vote totals were.

As a a Spokomptonite, I think we should definitely count those votes. I would kind of dig it if the state swung for the Huckster... he scares the bejesus out of me, but anything that creates a little more dissent within the Republican ranks is fine by me. Plus, I would love if McCain chose Huck as his running-mate... nothing will turn moderates off more than the idea of electing a really-farking old guy to president, knowing that his backup is batshiat crazy.

Does anyone know why the Maine Republican results have not been fully counted?

Juansmith: Oh lord... Must we be the new Florida?


The governor's race back in 2004 proved that.

/Rossi won fair and square.

As much as a non-Huckabee fan that I am, he definitely has a valid complaint.

The_Sponge: The governor's race back in 2004 proved that.

/Rossi won fair and square.

Keep crying, little biatch. He's gonna lose again.

Recall all Repuglikkkans: Shaggy_C: The repubs have been doing some weird stuff this year - remember the whole Ron Paul thing in Louisiana? We may never know what the actual vote totals were.

Yeah, but that's Ron Paul so who gives a rat's ass. As long as it doesn't affect the Democrats or goes into the general, things are fine.

Knew you were simply a troll...

Did Huckabee send Kenneth Copeland to ensure honesty in the numbers, the voting numbers, not Copeland's financial numbers.

This whole McCain/Huckabee thing really cracks me up. It's as if every pundit is actually shocked that the guy who gets the majority of his delegates from NY, CA, IL and New England is not doing well among red states. Not that WA is a red state, but for this contest to have been as close as it was, McCain should seriously be worried about the spanking he's going to get in November when the conservative base stays home

atlanta_ufo: Kenneth Copeland

I'm quite concerned about that whole deal - it's a very troubling movement toward breaking down the wall between church and state. The fact is, the only reason churches have tax-exempt status is because they made an agreement to stay out of politics (I think it was Eisenhower who cut the deal). This kind of stuff is really starting to sway back the other way; even worse than endorsing a candidate, this guy was using the pulpit to fundraise money for Huckabee. While it's not Huckabee's fault, it's still something that worries me in the long run.

I find it funny that Ron Paul won in Spokane by a decent margin.

/from Spokane

I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.

/Seriously, I'm going to vote for Obama in our primary on the 19th and I'm voting for him in the general.

First time I've ever voted for a Democrat for president in my life, but I just can't stand the Republican Party now from the local boobs all the way up to the Biggest Boob of all in the White House.

The GOP is the party of greed and corruption now, so I'll take my chances with the Dems, which is the party of good-intended ineffectiveness.

Echoic: I find it funny that Ron Paul won in Spokane by a decent margin.

/from Spokane

Holy shiat, Echoic. I can't believe you're from this shiat-hole too...

The irony of this is the local Republicans have been blaming Democrats since 2004 for a narrow margin victory by our governor, that they are CERTAIN INVOLVED VOTER FRAUD, even though the Secretary of State, a REPUBLICAN, affirmed the election was run fairly. Now given the chance to run their own election, THE SAME LOCAL REPUBLICANS commit shenanigans against one of their own. Dino Rossi is a miserable failure, just like Bush, just like most of you. And start tipping in restaurants.

Tom DeLay's working for Huckleberry now?

Is he going to fry this rat in a popcorn popper?

Were cries of voter fraud this common even before 2000?

I hate Huckabee, but the Washington shiat was WAAAAAAAAY sketchy

Killer Miller: Is he going to fry this rat in a popcorn popper?

LOL...That was the highlight of my day today. Watching this guy talking about college on 'Meet the Press'. WTF, I mean...Really? REALLY? Fried squirrel? And I thought my drug usage and some poorly chosen 1 night stands were bad. Maybe I could run for president one day...At least I never fried a squirrel!

Boo Radley Jr.:
I'll take my chances with the Dems, which is the party of good-intended ineffectiveness.

Good call. I'll take that over malicious incompetence any day.

maybe they didnt have enough money in the budget to pay overtime, so they're waiting until monday to start up again. (i know the GOP in MD is totally broke).

or maybe they only have a few people counting, and the turnout was larger than they anticipated.

or more likely, Huckabee humiliated the re-animated corpse of john mccain and they were hoping to take the wind out of hucks sail's by spreading out the sweep.

hello correct use of an apostrophe, i've never met you before.

Shaggy_C: Killer Miller: Is he going to fry this rat in a popcorn popper?

LOL...That was the highlight of my day today. Watching this guy talking about college on 'Meet the Press'. WTF, I mean...Really? REALLY? Fried squirrel? And I thought my drug usage and some poorly chosen 1 night stands were bad. Maybe I could run for president one day...At least I never fried a squirrel!

What is your position on caninocide?

They were actually quite justified in calling the race for McCain, unless the remaining 1500 votes were somehow from places that Huckabee was particularly strong in.

12,000 is a ridiculous sample size for any survey, allowing for a margin of error of on the order of 0.8% (this is like a 99% confidence interval, mind you). So, Huckabee trailing by 2% is actually significant and mathematically impossible to be overtaken (assuming the 1500 remaining votes are like the previous 12000, which may or may not be the case)

Though whatever, it can't take that long to count 1500 more votes.

Also, my argument above has a flaw in it, though people without much of a statistics background will probably not be able to see it / believe my argument in the first place...

Pillager: What is your position on caninocide?

No, no...it doesn't taste like chicken. It tastes like dog...it's not very good, but I hear it's a delicacy in Atlanta.

When did the government start calling elections with only 80% of the vote in like they're CNN?

I'll tell you, a great response from Chairman Ed Rollins, though. Clear, simple, and squash the problem immediately.

If there's any reason for Republicans to feel better about their party (which is in SHAMBLES due to their turtling for the NeoCon psychos), it's that there are still people like that in positions of power.

I'm not a Huckabee supporter, but not counting all the votes when there's only a 200 and something vote margin is inexcusable.

I thought this was going to be about those union guys and the inflatable rodent they bring to non-union job sites.

Obama speaking live on CNN.

I'm going to say this is probably worse than the Paul screwjob in LA. That one was harder to understand.

Here, they counted 87% of the votes, declared McCain the winner, and went home.

Granted, McCain probably would have won, but still ...

also, the fact that McCain was in a tight race with Huckabee *AND Paul* in a state that isn't exactly libertarian heaven or evangelical central indicates something is not entirely well with the GOP membership.

Generation_D

You, sir, are an idiot. George Bush and Dino Rossi are failures because of irregularities in the counting of the Republican vote. Yep. Sounds about right to me.

WHY IS IT SO farkING HARD TO ACCURATELY CALCULATE VOTES?

The_Sponge: The governor's race back in 2004 proved that.

/Rossi won fair and square.

Bullshiat.

Grow up, already.

somethingvague: HAHAHA can you believe that guy? Isn't Florida stupid? Duke sucks.

BTW, this is another site worth checking out: RON PAUL 2008

Posted same crap in Beer Thread you suck.

dletter: When did the government start calling elections with only 80% of the vote in like they're CNN?

Good lord.

The WA GOP is NOT the government.

You're gonna give me a migrane just thinking about that.

microbob:

Because each group is a different district, and different district are different pockets of people.

All the catholics are in x, y, and z districts, Protestants are around THEIR 2 churches in districts d, e, and f and the old folks home is split in districts q and r. They all lean certain ways.

Wait a second...

There were only 13K or so votes in the GOP caucuses?

There were nearly that many voters in my Dem precinct.

(OK, exaggeration, but there were estimated to be at least 200K dem caucusers).

2008 is going to be a fricking landslide--up and down the ticket.

Skleenar: dletter: When did the government start calling elections with only 80% of the vote in like they're CNN?

Good lord.

The WA GOP is NOT the government.

You're gonna give me a migrane just thinking about that.

True, I guess I read that wrong. If that is the case though, what's the legal ground? In that, a non-legally binding person (not of the govt.) decides to say "Mr. X is the winner". Is that any worse (or less legal) than all the networks saying Gore won Florida 2 minutes after the polls closed (in most but not all of the state)? As long as it isn't someone legally counting the votes?

Maybe I misunderstand how the primaries are run. I thought since they are generally done at polling places like an election (at least the primaries are, I guess the caucuses are more like dinner parties where you get to vote on who the best host is), that govt. officials were running it like any other election.

Down that road, I've always wondered... why don't any of the other parties (LP, Green, etc) do an "extended" state by state primary process for their candidates like the Dem & GOP? Is it just not enough money and personel to orchestrate it? Obviously, it isn't going to get the same attention from the press that the major parties get for their primary days, but, whatever day those parties come up with their candidate doesn't generate as much press, at least doing it the drawn out way, they'd get the same minimal amount of press, but on 15-20 different days, which would come out to more. Of course, if any of the other parties had enough people trying to figure this stuff out, they'd maybe be a bigger part of the political pie.

Holy crap:

Seems there were a bunch of GOP precincts with NO caucusers.

This is beginning to sound like the beginning of the extinction of the WA GOP.

Boo Radley Jr.: I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.

/Seriously, I'm going to vote for Obama in our primary on the 19th and I'm voting for him in the general.

First time I've ever voted for a Democrat for president in my life, but I just can't stand the Republican Party now from the local boobs all the way up to the Biggest Boob of all in the White House.

The GOP is the party of greed and corruption now, so I'll take my chances with the Dems, which is the party of good-intended ineffectiveness.


I am in agreement with your statement (AKA THIS).

I'm a bit confused.

As I understood it yesterday, the GOP was only pretty much putting out a press release saying that McCain won, and that they'd count the rest of the precincts early next week.. If this is true, why bother with the lawyers? Wouldn't it all come out next week anyway once they finish counting?

kevinatilusa: I'm a bit confused.

As I understood it yesterday, the GOP was only pretty much putting out a press release saying that McCain won, and that they'd count the rest of the precincts early next week.. If this is true, why bother with the lawyers? Wouldn't it all come out next week anyway once they finish counting?

Because of the way people vote. Sadly, a lot of people will vote based on a candidates wins. Also, if you thought you might have won something as important as that would you really want some other clown walking around claiming the victory as his own?

Skleenar: Seems there were a bunch of GOP precincts with NO caucusers.

This is beginning to sound like the beginning of the extinction of the WA GOP.

Wow, that is interesting. It seems like there was awesome turnout in the Democratic caucuses.

I don't think it necessarily signals the end of the WA GOP, though. You have to admit that the GOP has produced some pretty pathetic candidates.

middleoftheday: I don't think it necessarily signals the end of the WA GOP, though. You have to admit that the GOP has produced some pretty pathetic candidates.

But if this is any indication of the desire to vote in November, there will be serious carnage downticket.

This is a bad, bad sign for the WA GOP.

I've seen the many time in the GOP in NJ and it always ends in disaster. If a conservative wins the moderates don't show up and if a moderate wins, the conservatives don't show up. All this ever does is allow the Democrats to to win here. The problem for the Republicans here is that the national GOP is a lot more conservative than the NJ GOP. Conservatives in NJ are about as conservative McCain is. Huckabee is far to the right of almost any conservative in NJ. If Huckabee were to somehow comeback, it would be a disaster for for the Republicans in the North. At least with McCain even if the national conservatives stay home and let the Democrats win the Whitehouse the Republicans will hold more House and Senate seats.

/NJ conservative, national moderate

Skleenar 2008-02-10 10:27:33 PM
middleoftheday: I don't think it necessarily signals the end of the WA GOP, though. You have to admit that the GOP has produced some pretty pathetic candidates.

But if this is any indication of the desire to vote in November, there will be serious carnage downticket.

This is a bad, bad sign for the WA GOP.""

//The republican's demise was predicted here:

The republican Party was a political party of the United States during the 19th, 20th & early 21st centuries
Considered integral to the Second Party System and operating quite poorly from 1999-2007,
in 2008 the party passed into obscurity, like the whigs had faded so long ago.

the party was briefly re-formed in opposition to the policies of President Billy Clinton and the Democratic Party.

In particular, the republicans supported the supremacy of the Executive Branch over Congress, favored a program of modernization and economic protectionism, and individualised multi pay health care, the uronurown doctrine.

Their name was chosen to echo the American Whigs of 1776 who fought for independence.
[The Whig Party counted among its members such national political luminaries as Daniel Webster, William Henry Harrison, and their preeminent leader, Henry Clay of Kentucky. In addition to Harrison, the Whig Party also counted four war heroes among its ranks, including Generals Zachary Taylor and Winfield Scott. Abraham Lincoln was a Whig leader in frontier Illinois.]

In its final decade of its existence, the Republican Party saw two of its candidates, Bush and Bush jr, elected President of the United States.
Both, however, lost all their party's public support whilst in office.

Barack Obama became president after the 2008 election, but was expelled from His party, when he refused H. Clinton as VP. President Obama went on to create the the Tiger Party, which is extremely popular with the american under 40 crowd.

The Grand old Party was ultimately destroyed by the question of whether to allow the expansion of war to the rest of the middle east, and its flagrant inaction on health care.

With deep fissures in the party on these questions, the anti-war faction successfully prevented the nomination of Mike Huckabee in the U.S. presidential election of 2008;

instead, the party nominated Mike McCain, who was soundly defeated.Some of Its leaders quit politics in a huff, hopeful Mitt Romney returned to the drab business of making money. many others joined the Democrats, and later, President Obama's Tiger Party.

The voter base defected to the Democratic Party and various nutnest independants.
By U.S. presidential election of 2008, the party had lost its ability to maintain a national coalition of effective state parties and was distant third, trailing the Democratic and nutnest parties in the popular vote.

Time will tell, but it is being said that the new Tiger Party greatly resembles the Whigs of 1700.

WIKI EDIT 01-2K9

Aeonic_Blue
Skleenar

Man up, Nancy and Nancy.

/Rossi won 2 out of 3 counts, and the coont still won?
//Shenanigans.
///And if you voted for her, please turn in your man card ASAP.