This is actually true. Don't know if you've heard of the draft before and us not having one, thank god...

Shiat. BizarroBush, maybe.

Thought this was an Onion^TM headline...

sublimize: This is actually true.

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahaha... hah.

And, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

"The power of the Executive to cast a man in prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government, whether Nazi or Communist."

Do we have to put [George W. Bush] in brackets now? If you say his name three times does he start another war or something?

I guess they're just a "glass is half full" kind of person. I'm not quite so keen to excuse secret torture prisons, fake trials, flaunting laws with signing statements, and spying on citizens without warrants just because he lead us into a bullshiat war no one wants.

Every assault on our liberty should be met in kind no matter the assailant.

Wait a second. Was I asleep? Congress delcared war??

Ashcroft is still the little dictator's toady....

You forgot to include the rest of the quote...

"...unless you compare him to Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Jimmy Carter, Adolph Nixon, Britney Spears, Pee-Wee Herman, David Berkowitz, Paris Hilton, Beavis, and Laibach."

(or maybe he meant "in this room")

beve: Do we have to put [George W. Bush] in brackets now? If you say his name three times does he start another war or something?

You must be new to journalism. This means that his name was not specifically mentioned, but implied in the quoted text.

FTFA: Ashcroft said, "It is stunning to me that when the president of the United States, George W. Bush, simply says that we need to be able to monitor calls being made to terrorist territories, known geographies that are the source of terrorist activities, or known terrorists who are making calls into the United States ... that some people see it as an infringement somehow."

The problem is not with the Administration doing wire taps. The problem is them doing it outside the FISA laws and without warrants. That pesky Constitution says something about limiting unreasonable searches and seizures. Hell, FISA even allows for getting a warrant after the fact, and they wouldn't even do that.

I WANT the government tapping the communications of people inside the US thought to have contacts with terrorists. At the same time, I want them doing it legally and without violating the Constitution and the rights and liberties of persons inside the US.

cambie: You must be new to journalism. This means that his name was not specifically mentioned, but implied in the quoted text.

What do the little squiggles at the beginning and end of the headline mean? The ones that look like two apostrophes next to each other? I'm also confused about the little dot after the W

The constitution is just a piece of paper.

beve: Do we have to put [George W. Bush] in brackets now? If you say his name three times does he start another war or something?

Do you really not know why it's in brackets in the headline?

You can't have civil liberties if you're dead! 9/11 changed everything! Civil rights are for good, decent Americans, not terrorists who want to kill us! BDS! BDS!

Former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft on Saturday defended...


//that's all you need to read
//I'm pretty sure if Gore had been elected in 2000, we would have had the same type of surveillance.
//but, no gitmo
//no rendition
//no waterboarding
//no iraq
//probably no afghanistan
//probably would have captured or killed OBL
//my head hurts

What subby's smoking.

Can I haz it?

John Ashcroft lost an election to a dead man. He got his revenge by wiping his ass with the constitution in the hasty writing of the so called Patriot Act.

It's officially troll day on Fark now.

BillyBob_The_Magnificent: Former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft on Saturday defended...


//that's all you need to read
//I'm pretty sure if Gore had been elected in 2000, we would have had the same type of surveillance.
//but, no gitmo
//no rendition
//no waterboarding
//no iraq
//probably no afghanistan
//probably would have captured or killed OBL
//my head hurts

Gore would have gone into Afghanistan. Any American president would have gone into Afghanistan. Gore probably would have stayed focused on Afghanistan and Al Qaeda though instead of dropping the ball there to attack Iraq.

And he somehow made it through all that with a straight face too. THAT ladies and gentlemen is ACTING!

A heavily redacted page from the original ACLU lawsuit against the PATRIOT Act:

The Civil War, WWI, and WWII were all wars that had a conceivable endpoint. There was an enemy and they could be defeated. As such, any limitations of freedom would be temporary. The War on Terror has no such endpoint.... there's no enemy who can be defeated because it's a war on a concept. Like it's cousin The War on Drug the War on Terror is designed to be a war without end and any freedoms surrendered will be freedoms that are lost forever.

Arthur Jumbles: The Civil War, WWI, and WWII were all wars that had a conceivable endpoint. There was an enemy and they could be defeated. As such, any limitations of freedom would be temporary. The War on Terror has no such endpoint.... there's no enemy who can be defeated because it's a war on a concept. Like it's cousin The War on Drug the War on Terror is designed to be a war without end and any freedoms surrendered will be freedoms that are lost forever.

Im fighting hard in the "War on Sobriety".

/I like to think Im winning.

John Asshat?

The same guy who was lying in a hospital bed when Fredo crept up to him and tried to get him to sign on fer a spying program that went beyond what even a party loyalist like himself would put up with? Does JA really think that people are so stupid that they don't know that BushCo have launched full scale data mining operation on US citizens without their consent or legal oversight? That he has in fact gone so far as to privitise this spying on American citizens?

Sorry, wot's that? Talking to republicans?

Nevermind.

Ya know wot Jonathan Swift once sed? He sed:

"Never try to reason someone out of something they were never reasoned into in the first place"

/No special reason fer mentioning that just now. Just felt like it.

* Quatchi walks away whistlin' *

//Let the freepers soar like they've never soared before

beve: cambie: You must be new to journalism. This means that his name was not specifically mentioned, but implied in the quoted text.

What do the little squiggles at the beginning and end of the headline mean? The ones that look like two apostrophes next to each other? I'm also confused about the little dot after the W

Please tell me your shiatting me. Nevermind the fact that there aren't even any little squigglets that I see. Unless you meant the quotes.

Shouldn't you be out losing another election to a dead guy, you eagle-soaring, toilet-floating piece of crap?

Pfft, if he wants to be allowed to use "War on Terror" as a real war, I'll counter his claim with Clinton and "War on Drugs". Since the War on Drugs is just as much of a war as the War on Terror AND you cant possibly claim that Clinton (or Bush I) restrained liberties as much as Bush II, Ashcroft is full of it. Of course, everybody knew that already.

Bush really was a shy young boy in 2000. Now he's a very confident and comfortable man - feeling great about himself.

I'm so glad to read how the audience cheered for him, "Four more years!". Man, I wish he could do another term. Hypothetical question, if he was allowed to run, could he win another term?

Now I think so. Another term would have restored the Bush Doctrine and embolden Bush to do more and better and stronger.

Too bad that he's gotten too weak this year as he knows he's on his way out.

The audience reaction shows that he will NOT be forgotten after he leaves the office. Surely that's a sign to him that he's already built his legacy, which will slowly be appreciated by more and more over time.

He knows that he's done his job well and he's promised to continue his legacy even after he leaves the office. He's kept most of the campaign promises to us and more. 9/11 changed him the most and all of us but him the most because he's had to make the most important decisions for our country. We made decisions for ourselves but he made decisions for the country according to the limited roles and responsibilities and purpose of a Commander-In-Chief as defined by our Founding Fathers.

What an amazing man.

He will be treated by history kindly and in reverence.

I will cry the day he leaves the office.

/Found this on a blog today
/Don't know whether to laugh or cry

glaurunge: /Found this on a blog today
/Don't know whether to laugh or cry

The answer is cry. Where the hell did you find this?

Found it here in the comments section. (new window) Third one down.

The main article is pretty infurriating in that it calls Ned Lamont supporters "Far left."

Who's up for a little alcohol to help us forget how farked we are?

glaurunge: We made decisions for ourselves but he made decisions for the country according to the limited roles and responsibilities and purpose of a Commander-In-Chief as defined by our Founding Fathers.

Sounds like he also craps while standing.

glaurunge: Hypothetical question, if he was allowed to run, could he win another term?

...

So, how 'bout those Bears?

"[George W. Bush] respects liberty so profoundly that he has protected it and has safeguarded civil liberties more than any other president in wartime that I know of"

MMMMmmmm, Kool-aid ...

Gregory F. Stuart: Even given articles like this, people don't believe me when I claim that Americans are stupid.

Making broad generalizations like, "Americans are stupid," is about as accurate as claiming any given race is inferior to another.

It only shows you to be the moron.


PS: You choose to live in Florida.

Well...


No camps for American citizens of foreign descent.
No draft.
Nobody shot as traitor or coward.
No draft.
No Aliens&Sedition Act.
No foreign languages have been outlawed.
Oh, and no draft.

USP .45: Making broad generalizations like, "Americans are stupid," is about as accurate as claiming any given race is inferior to another.

It only shows you to be the moron.


PS: You choose to live in Florida.

I think you're missing his point by taking things a wee bit too literally.

WorldCitizen: FTFA: "Ashcroft said, I WANT the government tapping the communications of people inside the US thought to have contacts with terrorists. At the same time, I want them doing it legally and without violating the Constitution and the rights and liberties of persons inside the US."

"... I WANT to be Attorney General again to complete my evil plans. Gimme a call, Johnny Mc, k?"

"Bizarro George W. Bush respects liberty so profoundly that he has protected it and has safeguarded civil liberties more than any other president in wartime that I know of"

FTFY.

I present to you....

The Ashckroll! (new window)

Uh huh

Sure



Whatever you say, George...

This will be the legacy of Dubya.