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(Telegraph) Scary Anti-Putin protester is declared insane and kept drugged in psychiatric hospital. RNC seen taking notes   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 32
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goeniegoegoe 2008-02-10 09:07:51 AM  
The good ol' Cold War days are back it seems.

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 09:13:50 AM  
goeniegoegoe: The good ol' Cold War days are back it seems.

Man is not as civilized as some people would like to believe.

/Giving the liberals the squinty, evil eye.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 10:42:14 AM  
goeniegoegoe: The good ol' Cold War days are back it seems.

Don't worry, i'm sure that Hillary will save.....

Sorry, I just couldn't finish that sentence.

 
Godscrack [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 12:18:47 PM  
Dont laugh America

 
nobozo 2008-02-10 01:02:57 PM  
Godscrack: Dont laugh America

This.

 
Tabatha Static 2008-02-10 01:09:56 PM  
In the US they're called "troubled loners" in order to circumvent any discussions of political or social criticism.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 01:26:11 PM  
Tabatha Static: In the US they're called "troubled loners" in order to circumvent any discussions of political or social criticism.

Or Ron Paul voters. Same difference. Ignore the social commentary, just dismiss 'em as irrelevant and go vote for Hillary as if nothing was wrong with this country....

 
SusanIvanova [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 01:53:20 PM  
Weaver95: Or Ron Paul voters. Same difference. Ignore the social commentary, just dismiss 'em as irrelevant and go vote for Hillary as if nothing was wrong with this country....

There's a big difference between ignoring and dismissing someone as being a bit kooky and irrelevant and trundling them off to the crazy house to get drugged.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 01:55:14 PM  
SusanIvanova: Weaver95: Or Ron Paul voters. Same difference. Ignore the social commentary, just dismiss 'em as irrelevant and go vote for Hillary as if nothing was wrong with this country....

There's a big difference between ignoring and dismissing someone as being a bit kooky and irrelevant and trundling them off to the crazy house to get drugged.


the theory is the same. Don't listen to them, classify them as crazy and keep your head in the sand.

 
quatchi 2008-02-10 02:03:58 PM  
FRTA: Mr Basirov's case follows that of Larissa Arap, 49, a journalist from Murmansk who was detained in a psychiatric hospital for 46 days after she exposed the abuse of children at the very same unit

Charming. So old school Soviet style tactics for eliminating dissent are back in Vogue in the Pootsters Russia? Jeez, who woulda thunkit? The Russian psyche, like that of a long abused child, craves an authority figure, and to many Russians, Putin is Stalin v2.0 and alarmingly popular. While I can't stand the man or his tactics his rise was almost inevitable after Russia was screwed over by Shock reform back in the days of Boris and Bubba.

Even more frightening it is a global trend for any forms of dissent or government criticism to be portrayed in the corporate media as acts of terrorism rather than patriotism.

We live in 'interesting times', as the Chinese say.

Not just in Russia. All of us.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-02-10 02:07:42 PM  
quatchi: Even more frightening it is a global trend for any forms of dissent or government criticism to be portrayed in the corporate media as acts of terrorism rather than patriotism.



Yeah, but you can't stop the signal.

 
ceejayoz 2008-02-10 02:09:43 PM  
Weaver95: the theory is the same. Don't listen to them, classify them as crazy and keep your head in the sand.

Just because non-crazy people are sometimes called crazy doesn't automatically make your crazy beliefs non-crazy.

 
MFL 2008-02-10 02:13:29 PM  
Did they call what the protester was saying "Hate Speach"...

 
Necrosis 2008-02-10 02:25:00 PM  
I respect those in Russia trying to make in an actual democracy, but if it were me, I'd get the fark outta that country.

 
Alphax 2008-02-10 02:27:21 PM  
Insane asylum? Drugged? Sounds a bit like the protagonist from "Operation:Mindcrime"..

 
Farking Sweet 2008-02-10 02:27:37 PM  
Who cares? They make great flight sims.


Project KA50 (new window)

/freaking helicopter with an ejection seat!!

 
TheGreyPiper 2008-02-10 02:32:50 PM  
"Racism: A Mental Illness?"

Link

So: Why are African Americans so over-represented in the NBA and Jewish-Americans so under-represented?

/Hillarycare...

 
Calvin Coolidge 2008-02-10 02:46:51 PM  
img131.imageshack.us

 
Moses To Sandy Koufax 2008-02-10 02:48:35 PM  
They stole that idea from Batman Begins.

 
KiwDaWabbit 2008-02-10 02:58:36 PM  
goeniegoegoe: The good ol' Cold War days are back it seems.

Well, it's doubtful that they ever went away. I mean, all of the people in charge didn't stop breathing after the Soviet Union fell. It was only a matter of time before many of them gained back what they lost.

 
LewDux 2008-02-10 03:45:36 PM  
Your personal paper Putin:
afmarx.files.wordpress.com

Cut it, fold it, glue it, post results here

 
robrr2003 2008-02-10 03:51:53 PM  
/DNC seen building more free speech cages.

 
mfaby 2008-02-10 04:33:27 PM  
Smitty? Your crack about the RNC just goes to show that there are
azzhats outside the Republican party.

 
Felgraf 2008-02-10 04:51:29 PM  
But I thought he had a good soul!

 
ColdFusion 2008-02-10 07:49:24 PM  
Weaver95

Thing is, we consider such things worse when the government does it. If I think someone is crazy because they advocate policies I think are not just destructive to the nation as a whole, but because those policies would put me in great personal danger given my current economic situation and location, then that's the decision of a private citizen regarding another private citizen.

The difference is scale: I decide someone is crazy and I just don't listen to them, but if the government decides someone is crazy, then they have all these people who can do things to shut him up. You see, despite my opinion that Ron Paul's policies are not merely crazy but vindictive towards certain classes of citizens that include myself, whose current positions are already tenuous at best, does not keep Dr. Paul from advancing those positions to anyone who will listen.

 
BoozePenguin 2008-02-10 09:01:19 PM  
quatchi

Even more frightening it is a global trend for any forms of dissent or government criticism to be portrayed in the corporate media as acts of terrorism rather than patriotism

It's a global trend? Really? Care to give me some examples of this happening in any western democracy? I want specifics here...

Your point about russians needing an authority figure is spot on though. Good on yah!

 
jvl 2008-02-10 09:29:51 PM  
How a rational person view the news: Putin is an evil and dangerous man that we can do nothing about.

How subby thinks: This is evil therefore the Republicans might do it.

/ Please to be taking your failboat and going home with it.

 
quatchi 2008-02-11 02:01:10 AM  
BoozePenguin: It's a global trend? Really? Care to give me some examples of this happening in any western democracy? I want specifics here...

Read Naomi Klein's Fences and Windows.

Get back to me.

Ta fer the nod on the authoritarian thing. A buddy of mine took a cab recently in China and was somewot suprised to find a picture of Mao hanging from the drivers rear view. Heard a similar story once about a Russian cabbie and a pic of Stalin.

Something akin to stockholm syndrome.

 
BoozePenguin 2008-02-11 01:40:32 PM  
quatchi

C'mon, you must have some examples.

 
Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2008-02-11 01:43:40 PM  
jvl: How a rational person view the news: Putin is an evil and dangerous man that we can do nothing about.

How subby thinks: This is evil therefore the Republicans might do it.

/ Please to be taking your failboat and going home with it.


Would you prefer "Dick Cheney seen taking notes"? Or perhaps "Carl Rove"?

 
BoozePenguin 2008-02-11 01:51:10 PM  
I mean, if it's enough of a global trend you must be able to refer me to some examples, right? You wouldn't make a statement like "any forms of dissent or government criticism to be portrayed in the corporate media as acts of terrorism" without having any examples to give us?

And does Kleins book include example of dissent being called terrorism? Or, is she referring to the vandalism in seattle, quebec, etc?

Because although i know those riots are a proud moment of rebellion to the "anti-globalization" crowd, and in Kleins mind, but to me it's vandalism.

As Klein points out, what happened in Seattle, Quebec City, Prague and Genoa is the internet generation's response to the injustices created by an international economic system dedicated to furthering the interests and profits of a handful of wealthy investors and fewer than 1,000 large corporations. Unlike the old-guard Marxist activists of the 1960s, these web activists "have no top-down hierarchy ready to explain the master plan, no universally recognised leaders giving easy sound bites - and no one knows what is going to happen next".


Well, that's retarded. I'd wonder how she would feel if me and a bunch of my friends, whoa re all much poorer then she is came to her neighborhood and started trashing her shiat. I wonder if it'd be as glorious if it had been her property, and not someone else's who was trashed.

http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/politicsphilosophyandsociety/0,6121,835466,0 0.html

And she married Avi Lewis... ugh...

 
Jon iz teh kewl 2008-02-14 04:54:57 PM  
This same shiat happens in Florida all the time, it's called Baker Act...

 
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