Kim Gates says she will likely homeschool her son after this is all settled.

Yes, Ms. Gates. Brilliant -- that's exactly how to get your son away from his twisted thoughts and turn him into a well-adjusted young adult.

submitter: Teens family claims it is perfectly normal to create a secret encrypted language and use it to lay out an elaborate plan to kill multiple classmates.

I RdTFA. Is there any evidence that he actually intended to do anything?

I only ask because I plotted elaborate schemes to kill my classmates, teachers, administration, etc. all the time. My imagination swung that way probably because I grew up watching horror movies and reading Stephen King.

Guess how many people I harmed. Guess how many of my plans I actually attempted to start implementing. Guess how many violent confrontations I've had in real life.

If you answer is anything greater than zero, then you guessed wrong.

Am I the only person in the world that turned out to be a well-adjusted member of society even with all of that? Or is there a chance this kid is "normal"?

/would be shocked if I were the only one here who ever plotted the mass murders of many people at school

mamoru: I only ask because I plotted elaborate schemes to kill my classmates, teachers, administration, etc. all the time.

Exactly. I never have myself, but I knew plenty of kids that did this. I knew normally sweet girls who kept Death Lists. So WTF?

Oh right, it's a "post-911 world".

TFA: They may not be a family of many resources

Just say they're poor, you pussy journalist.

Also TFA: ...he was influenced by "Naruto" a Japanese cartoon whose main character is described as an "unpredictable adolescent ninja who constantly searches for recognition".

Yeah, that's just great. Never seen the show, but somehow it doesn't surprise me that the media is trying to connect a Japanese TV show -- a stone's throw from video games in most adult minds -- to some kid going nuts.

Mrs. Manson though her little Charlie "just had a wonderful imagination"

Mugato: mamoru: I only ask because I plotted elaborate schemes to kill my classmates, teachers, administration, etc. all the time.

Exactly. I never have myself, but I knew plenty of kids that did this. I knew normally sweet girls who kept Death Lists. So WTF?

Oh right, it's a "post-911 world".

You know, it's funny. It seems like the people who do actually end up shooting people up are the ones who have the worst plans, at least if you go by body count. The way I see it, though, is that the kind of mind that would actually go postal like that is not the kind of mind that would rationally go through a plan, looking for flaws and ways in which to improve it...

This is a tough call. If you ignore this sort of thing and the kid does actually go on a killing spree then everyone is going to say "DUH!" and you're in deep shiat. On the other hand, who the hell hasn't wanted to kill someone at some point in their life? The co-worker that takes your food out of the microwave, the moron that takes 15 minutes to order fast food, the pretty girl at the bar that refuses to have sex with you even though you bought her like five drinks, etc. Only difference between most people and murderers is we have the self control to just let shiat go.

Mugato: mamoru: I only ask because I plotted elaborate schemes to kill my classmates, teachers, administration, etc. all the time.

Exactly. I never have myself, but I knew plenty of kids that did this. I knew normally sweet girls who kept Death Lists. So WTF?

Oh right, it's a "post-911 world".

I'd say that this is more of a "post Columbine" world. There is are real-life reasons to be concerned here, no the phony paranoid "war on terra" that 9/11 spawned

A few obvious questions, though....

Was this kid every bullied?
Was he picked last for any sport teams?
Did a teacher or any of the students single him out and make fun of him?
Is he a bit of a loner?
Had he been turned down by a girl?

Answer three or more of these with "yes" and I'd think the authorities do have a case. (look at the other school shooting incidents)

9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

Obviously this kid is an Al Queda sleeper cell. Just ask John McCain.

I had an unimplemented plan to take over my school and use it as an anti-zombie fortress.

I had a map with supply rooms, barracks, a holding cell for people who didn't tow the line, guard posts, and of course a room to keep all the chicks who looked up to me as a zombie killing god.

shiat I am glad I got out of school before the current insanity hit. I could see a teacher freaking over kinetic impact calculations deltaV calculations, blast radius calculations. Also had elaborate plans to kill random people... mostly involving lasers. I never acted on them, it just made me feel better about how horribly I was treated by fellow students. I also built some small explosives and gave them to friends. We mostly blew up small plastic toys -- Though one friend took apart one of the bombs and stuck a match in it while looking down the casing.

/He lost his eyelashes, eyebrows, hair on the top of his head and his face was beet red for a week
//Lasers are cool

You guys might be saying otherwise if your son or daughter were on this list.

The Grinch

Yeah, I was wondering how long it would take until Naruto became the new thing corrupting our poor innocent snowflakes' minds.

That reminds me, I have to make a Zombie Action Plan (ZAP) for my new place of work.

/Lets see zombies use the security swipe cards to get me... Stupid zombies.

FTFA:

"My son is offbeat and he's gothic and he doesn't stand in the standard forum and I think because of that he was zeroed out."

Definition of "zeroed out":
a. To aim or concentrate firepower on an exact target location.
b. To adjust the aim or sight of by repeated firings.

MMMMMMMM.....+1 for mom

god, I'm glad I went to high school pre-Columbine/9-11... with my fiction and my penchant for wearing baggy clothing with many pockets, I'd be farting whooshes today.

Freak: On the other hand, who the hell hasn't wanted to kill someone at some point in their life? The co-worker that takes your food out of the microwave, the moron that takes 15 minutes to order fast food, the pretty girl at the bar that refuses to have sex with you even though you bought her like five drinks, etc.

People have been killed for less, I guess, but I'm not sure that wanting to kill the person who takes a long time to order food is really a well-adjusted response.

Freak: The co-worker that takes your food out of the microwave

Hey there, Zippy. You leave the break room and leave your food unattended, I will take it out as soon as the bell rings. I need to eat, too. And if I knew that was your attitude, I would toss it in the trash, as well.

Welcome to hell, biatch.

Day_Old_Dutchie
Was this kid every bullied?
Was he picked last for any sport teams?
Did a teacher or any of the students single him out and make fun of him?
Is he a bit of a loner?
Had he been turned down by a girl?

You just described probably 85% of the Farkers reading this.

Time to homeschool the boy now. Homeschool him in the proper handling of firearms and camoflauge. God hates America.

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Petit_Merdeux: Freak: The co-worker that takes your food out of the microwave

Hey there, Zippy. You leave the break room and leave your food unattended, I will take it out as soon as the bell rings. I need to eat, too. And if I knew that was your attitude, I would toss it in the trash, as well.

Welcome to hell, biatch.

That goes for the idiot that hogs the washer in an apartment complex. You get five minutes on my watch, or your crap is in the closest basket. If I knew I was on your kill list, it'd be in the lawn for good measure.

irocalot

"You guys might be saying otherwise if your son or daughter were on this list."

If your little snowflake is on this list it could mean they are a total asshat and you should do something about that. I have to agree that I am glad to be out of school before the paranoid nutjobs took control. Back in my day if our classmates were id10ts we pounded the stupid right out of them, either verbally or physically. Of course parents back then had the attitude that if you acted ignorant you generally deserved what you got, and then they also nailed your arse for acting stupid.

wolfieb: Freak: On the other hand, who the hell hasn't wanted to kill someone at some point in their life? The co-worker that takes your food out of the microwave, the moron that takes 15 minutes to order fast food, the pretty girl at the bar that refuses to have sex with you even though you bought her like five drinks, etc.

People have been killed for less, I guess, but I'm not sure that wanting to kill the person who takes a long time to order food is really a well-adjusted response.

While killing a person for this is out of line, I think a severe beating could sometimes be in order. Not long ago, I would have considered a beating out of line for such an offense, but I recently waited behind 6 people who made me reconsider. Honestly, it was just FAIL after FAIL after FAIL. It actually makes me angry to think about it, and I'm not one to easily get upset. I just can't imagine how any of those people made it that far in life.

Kim Gates says she will likely homeschool her son after this is all settled.

"Okay, Dakota, listen up. Assume p and q are two distinct large prime numbers. Let the number e, such that e is less than and coprime with (p-1)(q-1) be called the 'public key'..."

A vengeful goth kid vexed at the world because his mother named him "Dakota", methinks! Need pics of this paragon and his family.

I thought Dakota was a girl's name. No wait a minute it's a FARKING STATE.

/2, actually

Um, come on, every teenage boy has fantasised about some dark shiat. I know I sure did, maybe I was a bit (a lot) more dark than most but everyone's done it. Christ we're a bunch of pussies these days.

There are other ways to tell if a kid's going to snap and do something nasty, but usually, and here's the real problem, the kids who do go postal aren't having attention paid to them by the people who should be. And I don't mean "My wonderful little snowflake" kind of attention, I mean the vigilance of good parenting.

Also, we need to learn the difference between "wanting to kill someone" and "fantasising about killing someone". You don't want to kill the person in the fast food line, course you don't, you're not a sociopath. Fantasising is a different thing altogether, and it's quite possible that indulging in a little internal fantasy actually keeps one from wanting to do it in reality. It allows us to analyse the situation and realise quietly in the background that it would be quite distasteful. Get rid of the fantasy and you may have problems.

It's no coincidence that an awful lot of sociopaths come from repressive backgrounds, where having certain thoughts would be treated as being "wrong".

Anyway, I'm being far too sensible. Kid should DIAF or something. Raarr, rabble rabble etc.

Mugato: I thought Dakota was a girl's name. No wait a minute it's a FARKING STATE.

Coulda been worse. I know a lass whose parents saw fit to call her Alabama. A British kid called Alabama. Words failed me, so I had to point out that they were possibly dumbasses.

FTFV "my son is off-beat, he's gothic and doesn't stand in the normal forum and because of that he's been ZEROED out"

People in the normal forum get singled out.

You know who else had an elaborate plan? Only his plan was implemented and is still being carried out.

Remember it is very important to write down your goals!

Since when does class notes get sent to the FBI?

Homeschooling is definitely the way to go.

Hello kaelie, if you are reading this then I am gone, dead, or near death. I need you to be aware that I can no longer trustable for you. I will return one day weather[sic] I am dead yet or not. I've lied many times. For many reasons, but what you are reading now is the truth: my last few goals in life are amoung[sic] being your friend, and dieing[sic] for you' cause once these two conditions are met I may neaver[sic] return, but I think you can survive without me and even though I loved you and you only wanted to be friends when I wrote this I learned to, --ve with this pain (Just kidding). I'm not sure if I met your mother by the. time you read this but tell her I said hi and bye. It matters not to me. weather[sic] or not you read this to anyone or not, but remember that this is not a sucide note, so don's[sic] show it off like it is.
signed, Dakota Gates AKA S

from here The first time I transcribed the letter (new window) The letter in the video is the same one from the earlier article.

/now I've read this thing about a dozen times, and although it does say die, death and so on, he doesn't say he specifically wants to kill someone, just that he wants to die for a girl.

This is what the republicans have been warning me about !!

travelingsurfer: Since when does class notes get sent to the FBI?

Homeschooling is definitely the way to go.

Since the school administrators couldn't decipher the letter, which I think says a lot about public schools. I would expect at least one person on staff at the school does the Newspapers crypto- puzzle, on the public's dime no less.

Homeschooling is the way to go, if only to keep the kid away from idiot administrators.

Petit_Merdeux: Hey there, Zippy. You leave the break room and leave your food unattended, I will take it out as soon as the bell rings. I need to eat, too. And if I knew that was your attitude, I would toss it in the trash, as well.

Welcome to hell, biatch.

If the bell rings then it's fair game of course. What I'm talking about is the jackass who decides that since your stuff is programmed for several minutes and his is "just going to take a minute" that they have the right to take yours out put theirs in just cuz you're not standing guard dog over it.

glacierexpress: While killing a person for this is out of line, I think a severe beating could sometimes be in order. Not long ago, I would have considered a beating out of line for such an offense, but I recently waited behind 6 people who made me reconsider. Honestly, it was just FAIL after FAIL after FAIL. It actually makes me angry to think about it, and I'm not one to easily get upset. I just can't imagine how any of those people made it that far in life.

Seriously. It should not take you several minutes to order from the drive-thru. The menu is not that complicated and once you pull up to the second menu (the one with the intercom) you should already have your order in mind. I'm not ever going to actually hurt someone over this, but there have been plenty of times where I've experienced "drive-thru rage" because of retards who take foreeeever to order.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Homeschooling is the way to go, if only to keep the kid away from idiot administrators.

That. Kid who's an amateur cryptographer is obviously far too bright for public schooling.

mamoru: submitter: Teens family claims it is perfectly normal to create a secret encrypted language and use it to lay out an elaborate plan to kill multiple classmates.

I RdTFA. Is there any evidence that he actually intended to do anything?

I only ask because I plotted elaborate schemes to kill my classmates, teachers, administration, etc. all the time. ...

Serious question for you, and the posters below you that said the same...

Seriously?

That's strange if you ask me.

I plotted elaborate schemes to get laid, get pot, and get beer. Never had time to free my brain for the whole "mass murder, in spectacularly gruesome ways, of many innocent victims" thing.

Who need schools anymore anyway, we have the internet.

mamoru: Am I the only person in the world that turned out to be a well-adjusted member of society even with all of that? Or is there a chance this kid is "normal"?

I don't know how well-adjusted or normal I am, but I seem to blend in and stay out of trouble... so I can't be too bad...
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http://home.comcast.net/~thatguyoverthere/91-story-3.jpg

I recently found these while cleaning... they were what I wrote for a 6th or 7th grade english class. Today, something like that would get me automatically expelled and probably committed and placed under constant supervision. Sad really.

And no, I don't feel like adding the <a href=" " target="_blank"> </a> three times. or even like clicking the link button

magores: I plotted elaborate schemes to get laid, get pot, and get beer. Never had time to free my brain for the whole "mass murder, in spectacularly gruesome ways, of many innocent victims" thing.

I didn't have access to pot, nor beer, and I wasn't about to get laid due to being a non-athletic geek. So I designed and built guns and explosives. Many of them worked really rather well.

That's just me though, but a lot of others have just called it "Being a boy".

The Grinch: Yeah, that's just great. Never seen the show, but somehow it doesn't surprise me that the media is trying to connect a Japanese TV show -- a stone's throw from video games in most adult minds -- to some kid going nuts.

They've made some Naruto video games. That's why this kid is a wanna-be killer.

That's how it goes. Buy the kid a Wii, and he goes on a killing spree.

log_jammin: I had an unimplemented plan to take over my school and use it as an anti-zombie fortress.

I had a map with supply rooms, barracks, a holding cell for people who didn't tow the line, guard posts, and of course a room to keep all the chicks who looked up to me as a zombie killing god.

Were you going to hang you Lobotomizer on the wall?

starsrift: That's how it goes. Buy the kid a Wii, and he goes on a killing spree.

Have you see "No More Heroes?" It's a wii exclusive and it's entirely about running on killing sprees. I love it. It's insanity with a dash of 8bit for flavor.

SlowTimedRapid: Kim Gates says she will likely homeschool her son after this is all settled.

Yes, Ms. Gates. Brilliant -- that's exactly how to get your son away from his twisted thoughts and turn him into a well-adjusted young adult.

Oh snap! Yes let's get him acclimated and immersed in the values of this well adjusted society. 'Cuz we got it goin' on ya'll.

Is this post-Columbine knee-jerk reactions or a real cause for alarm?

I taught in a school where a kid held a class hostage. He admitted to getting the idea from reading "Rage" by Stephen King. For four hours he held a teacher and 21 students at gunpoint before the teacher finally talked him into relinquishing the gun.

He had made threats in the past about killing students. Even had a floorplan of the school & a couple of teachers' schedules in his locker. They were found weeks before the incident and nothing was done.

However, this happened in 1989 and never made it to the mainstream media. In fact, it was barely a blip in the local paper. The point I'm trying to make is that this stuff has always happened. It's just that now every minute detail gets reported & blown out of proportion. Post-Columbine or not, you've got a kid making some serious death threats and should be investigated. I don't believe criminal charges should be brought (THAT part's post-Columbine), but he definitely needs counseling.

You know who else had a wonderful imagination?


/Had to

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: Hello kaelie, if you are reading this then I am gone, dead, or near death. I need you to be aware that I can no longer trustable for you. I will return one day weather[sic] I am dead yet or not. I've lied many times. For many reasons, but what you are reading now is the truth: my last few goals in life are amoung[sic] being your friend, and dieing[sic] for you' cause once these two conditions are met I may neaver[sic] return, but I think you can survive without me and even though I loved you and you only wanted to be friends when I wrote this I learned to, --ve with this pain (Just kidding). I'm not sure if I met your mother by the. time you read this but tell her I said hi and bye. It matters not to me. weather[sic] or not you read this to anyone or not, but remember that this is not a sucide note, so don's[sic] show it off like it is.
signed, Dakota Gates AKA S





Dakota Gates, you are NOT smarter than a 5th grader.

/in fact you spell like shiat!

rassilon: You know who else had a wonderful imagination?

JRR Tolkien? St. John of Patmos? Thomas Mallory?

Also wanted for questioning:

Freak: This is a tough call. If you ignore this sort of thing and the kid does actually go on a killing spree then everyone is going to say "DUH!" and you're in deep shiat. On the other hand, who the hell hasn't wanted to kill someone at some point in their life? The co-worker that takes your food out of the microwave, the moron that takes 15 minutes to order fast food, the pretty girl at the bar that refuses to have sex with you even though you bought her like five drinks, etc. Only difference between most people and murderers is we have the self control to just let shiat go.

Get over yourself, Francis. If you're not standing right there keeping an eye on your shiat, it's getting yanked out of the microwave. If I'm ordering food for 10 coworkers, it's probably going to take more than 15 minutes. I'm not even going to touch the pretty girl at the bar comment, but let's just say you're probably a good toss away from Ed Gein and leave it at that, huh?

Your nickname here is very befitting your demeanor.