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(king5) Interesting Update from the WA caucuses: Dems shatter participation records, most Repubs undecided   (king5.com) divider line 146
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globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 07:59:36 PM  
What if Huckabee sweeps to day?

 
ragekage [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:00:12 PM  
Outstanding! We actually managed to get them Washintonites to quit hurling fish at each other, drinking coffee, and forming garage bands and rock the vote!

Hopefully they'll BARACK the vote, eh? Eh? Catch the pun? I'm just so clever.

 
BudTheSpud 2008-02-09 08:00:26 PM  
Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.

 
Lawnchair 2008-02-09 08:01:09 PM  
At least Washington seemed reasonably prepared. Hearing of lots of 100-person caucuses. Here in Kansas, there were some caucuses that attracted 3000 to a building rated for 800, while in other parts of the state, a town of 15,000 had to caucus 50 miles away.

Of course, there were more people in the one room I caucused in than had ever been to a Democratic caucus statewide in the last 30 years.

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:03:13 PM  
BudTheSpud: Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.

why do you think they want Hillary nominated?

 
RadioAaron 2008-02-09 08:06:04 PM  
Guess who is an Obama delegate to his county's Caucus/Convention?

AAAAND who was chosen to give a 1 minute speech at his caucus today based on a conversation I was having with another caucus goer?

That's right. This guy.

/No, I don't want a cookie.
//Just glad beyond words to be a part of this.
///GOBAMA!!

 
BudTheSpud 2008-02-09 08:06:56 PM  
SilentStrider: BudTheSpud: Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.

why do you think they want Hillary nominated?


You know, I cant help but think that most young Obama voters probably feel betrayed by their elders. Most of their parents and grandparents basically voting Hillary and the status quo, knowing full-well where the country is headed. They just don't care that their kids will have to clean up the mess that they made. If I was an American citizen, I'd be pretty pissed at my parents if they voted Hillary.

 
th 2008-02-09 08:09:26 PM  
people in my precinct had no idea what a caucus was. it was the most unorganized and idiotic event i've been to since hillary was in seattle on thursday. obama swept my precinct, though.

/also an obama delegate

 
MorningBreath [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:09:55 PM  
BudTheSpud: SilentStrider: BudTheSpud: Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.

why do you think they want Hillary nominated?

You know, I cant help but think that most young Obama voters probably feel betrayed by their elders. Most of their parents and grandparents basically voting Hillary and the status quo, knowing full-well where the country is headed. They just don't care that their kids will have to clean up the mess that they made. If I was an American citizen, I'd be pretty pissed at my parents if they voted Hillary.


why? all Obama is for is bigger government, and platitudes.

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:10:57 PM  
MorningBreath: why? all Obama is for is bigger government, and platitudes.

Please don't vote. You are incredibly uninformed.

 
BudTheSpud 2008-02-09 08:11:31 PM  
MorningBreath: BudTheSpud: SilentStrider: BudTheSpud: Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.

why do you think they want Hillary nominated?

You know, I cant help but think that most young Obama voters probably feel betrayed by their elders. Most of their parents and grandparents basically voting Hillary and the status quo, knowing full-well where the country is headed. They just don't care that their kids will have to clean up the mess that they made. If I was an American citizen, I'd be pretty pissed at my parents if they voted Hillary.

why? all Obama is for is bigger government, and platitudes.


What great points you bring up, you completely changed my mind. I'll go vote Republican now.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:11:45 PM  
globalwarmingpraiser: What if Huckabee sweeps to day?

I said a few days ago he could get the VP slot bc of his social conservative credentials.

The ticket would lack on immigration, but what are their options for a popular guy who counters some of McCains "liberal" stances?

A sweep gets him closer to that, IMHO.

 
RadioAaron 2008-02-09 08:13:12 PM  
MorningBreath: why? all Obama is for is bigger government, and platitudes.

Mmmm.... That's good troll.

 
Ground_Hog 2008-02-09 08:13:23 PM  
WHEN ARE THE RESULTS COMING IN?! I'm going nuts over here.

 
Skleenar 2008-02-09 08:14:06 PM  
MorningBreath: why? all Obama is for is bigger government, and platitudes.

I don't know about the government thing, but platitudes rock.

img233.imageshack.us

gObama!

 
RadioAaron 2008-02-09 08:14:25 PM  
Ground_Hog: WHEN ARE THE RESULTS COMING IN?! I'm going nuts over here.

6pm PST.

 
th 2008-02-09 08:14:32 PM  
we should see results starting to come in at 6, ground_hog.

 
bberg 2008-02-09 08:15:57 PM  
CNN reporting: 27% of Washington reporting, 66% Obama 33% Clinton. That gives about a 35-delegate lead to Obama in that state.

 
Echoic 2008-02-09 08:16:06 PM  
Woot, 66% to 33% did I just see from WA? With 25% in?

 
QUICKSlLVER [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:16:27 PM  
Obama up about 66-33 with 25% in from Washington.

 
Ground_Hog 2008-02-09 08:16:44 PM  
th: we should see results starting to come in at 6, ground_hog.

OK, ty. I'll be back in a bit to celebrate.

 
djslowdive 2008-02-09 08:17:18 PM  
1st results are in according to cnn w/ 27% of the precincts reporting: 65%obama 33%billary

 
Echoic 2008-02-09 08:18:49 PM  
"BATON ROUGE, LA- The Obama campaign submitted an urgent request for assistance to the Secretary of State's Division of Elections today, after receiving widespread reports from Democrats across Louisiana who reported that they were not allowed to vote because their party affiliation had been switched. Hundreds of Louisiana democrats went to the polls to vote in today's presidential primary and found that they were now on registration lists as Independent or Unaffiliated voters.

What Louisiana voters to need to know:

Democrats who are told at their polling places that they are now registered Independent or Unaffiliated voters and aren't eligible to vote - but never switched their party affiliation - can still vote in today's primary by requesting a provisional ballot. The Secretary of State has confirmed that all voters have the right to vote a provisional ballot if there is a problem with the registration lists.
"

Hmm.

 
QUICKSlLVER [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:19:10 PM  
Nebraska is a big margin with 70% in.

 
th 2008-02-09 08:20:17 PM  
npr says with 25% in, obama is leading 2 to 1. no link, listening on the radio.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:22:19 PM  
BudTheSpud: Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.

I think it would be outstanding to see people actually show up and participate in larger numbers than ever before.

 
RadioAaron 2008-02-09 08:23:54 PM  

 
bberg 2008-02-09 08:25:53 PM  
CNN broadcasting 69%-31% in Nebraska for Obama. Still nothing from Louisiana, but they don't close polls for another half hour

 
th 2008-02-09 08:26:01 PM  
BudTheSpud: Republicans better hope these turnouts don't hold come November.


Chances are, they will. Primary turn-outs are historically very low (whereas presidential elections, obviously, tend to draw more people), so chances are, this is a very good sign of more to come in November, regardless of the Democratic nominee.

 
quatchi 2008-02-09 08:26:26 PM  
66 to 33?

Ha! Quatchi just knew his good neighbours to the south were gonna back Barack ...but 2 to 1? Sweet Baby Jebus that's encouraging news.

08ama '08.

Believe that shiat!

 
orclover 2008-02-09 08:28:26 PM  
Echoic: Hmm.

I am pretty sure Obama has the big L locked up, but enough stories like this could make things ugly.

 
scoughlin 2008-02-09 08:30:21 PM  
woohoo, thank you fellow washingtonians for not being retards! GOBAMA!

 
Bill Frist 2008-02-09 08:30:47 PM  
Can anyone tell me what happens if Clinton gets LESS than 30% of the vote?

How many delegates would she end up with if she doesn't hit that threshold?

 
Ceph 2008-02-09 08:32:04 PM  
I Said: The ticket would lack on immigration, but what are their options for a popular guy who counters some of McCains "liberal" stances?

A sweep gets him closer to that, IMHO.


Huckabee would kill a lot of Independent votes for McCain. McCain does well with them now, but picking a very Evangelical VP is risky. McCain is old and will be older still when sworn in. The older he gets the higher the chance of serious health issues, particularly in men.

I wold vote McCain over Hillary, but would not vote for any ticket including Huckabee or Romney.

/indep.

 
th 2008-02-09 08:32:14 PM  
Frist--

That's hard to say because of the super delegates in WA, many of whom (like Murray and Cantwell) have pledged support to her.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-02-09 08:33:42 PM  
Obama is tearing it up today! Sweet! If he can double up Clinton in LA as well, he might overtake her even with the superdelegates on her side.

 
skink 2008-02-09 08:33:57 PM  
From Echoics post:

"BATON ROUGE, LA- The Obama campaign submitted an urgent request for assistance to the Secretary of State's Division of Elections today, after receiving widespread reports from Democrats across Louisiana who reported that they were not allowed to vote because their party affiliation had been switched. Hundreds of Louisiana democrats went to the polls to vote in today's presidential primary and found that they were now on registration lists as Independent or Unaffiliated voters.

What Louisiana voters to need to know:

Democrats who are told at their polling places that they are now registered Independent or Unaffiliated voters and aren't eligible to vote - but never switched their party affiliation - can still vote in today's primary by requesting a provisional ballot. The Secretary of State has confirmed that all voters have the right to vote a provisional ballot if there is a problem with the registration lists."


That's just the way it is...Some things'll never change. ~Hornsby


Stuff like this is why I was not surprised when Louisiana dealt so badly with Katrina. As politically corrupt a state as there could possibly be.

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:34:15 PM  
th: Frist--

That's hard to say because of the super delegates in WA, many of whom (like Murray and Cantwell) have pledged support to her.


We'll see that change, IMO.

 
th 2008-02-09 08:35:15 PM  
Shaggy_C

I wouldn't get too excited yet, there are still major states, like Penn and Texas, to go that might upset that.

 
Ground_Hog 2008-02-09 08:37:06 PM  
Mmmm goodness. I admit I felt a little down after Super Tuesday.

 
Bill Frist 2008-02-09 08:37:11 PM  
th Quote 2008-02-09 08:32:14 PM
Frist--

That's hard to say because of the super delegates in WA, many of whom (like Murray and Cantwell) have pledged support to her.


Ignoreing super delegates though... just of the 78 pledged?

 
Chameleon 2008-02-09 08:39:21 PM  
RadioAaron: Guess who is an Obama delegate to his county's Caucus/Convention?

AAAAND who was chosen to give a 1 minute speech at his caucus today based on a conversation I was having with another caucus goer?

That's right. This guy.


I know at least 5 Farkers are Obama delegates, including myself. Way to participate in the political process, Farkers! W00t!

I should have given the speech; I thought about it, but the official Obama guy did it and he sucked.

 
djslowdive 2008-02-09 08:39:37 PM  
CNN projects Obama winning WA. YAY us!

 
Shaggy_C 2008-02-09 08:40:02 PM  
th: I wouldn't get too excited yet, there are still major states, like Penn and Texas, to go that might upset that.

Well, I mean in the short term (until tomorrow, at least). We haven't had the lead once this election due to all of the party faithful jumping on the Hillary bandwagon before a single vote was cast.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:41:30 PM  
Ceph:

He has to balance his appeal though. He needs independents, but he needs the base more.

No one, dem or repub, wins without their base, and I don't know of any other popular repub with conservative credentials. I'm sure I'm missing someone, but the other likely candidate was Fred Thompson who could have done it had his presidential bid not gone so poorly.

Maybe him still though.

 
RadioAaron 2008-02-09 08:45:43 PM  
That's been my favorite "ZOMG CNN PROJEXSHUN!!211!1!" yet!

Chameleon: I know at least 5 Farkers are Obama delegates, including myself.

We are all kinds of awesome. :)

 
Chameleon 2008-02-09 08:46:03 PM  
th: That's hard to say because of the super delegates in WA, many of whom (like Murray and Cantwell) have pledged support to her.

I'm hoping that will change after the massive victory for Obama today; I plan on writing them both and encouraging them to give their support to the candidate that their constituency prefers, especially as he is the best one to bring Democratic voters to the polls in November. Unfortunately, neither one is up for re-election, as that would make the arguement even stronger. Still, write your representatives, as well. They might make a difference.

 
ipsofacto 2008-02-09 08:48:20 PM  
Regarding superdelegates, some farker created a petition (new window).

 
12349876 2008-02-09 08:48:33 PM  
Bill Frist: Can anyone tell me what happens if Clinton gets LESS than 30% of the vote?

How many delegates would she end up with if she doesn't hit that threshold?


A lot of delegates are based on Congressional districts rather than the overall state

For example in Nebraska, the congressional district that is the Omaha metro area is going almost 80-20 for Obama so he'll probably get all the delegates there, but in the district that is rural western Nebraska, Obama is barely winning so Hillary will pick up some delegates from there.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-02-09 08:53:00 PM  
th: Shaggy_C

I wouldn't get too excited yet, there are still major states, like Penn and Texas, to go that might upset that.


I'd watch the Pennsylvannia race closely. Democrat strongholds in philly and pittsburg are old skool 'machine politics' and they've declared support for Hillary. And they'll fight dirty too. Obama is going to have a rough fight on his hands if he wants to beat those folks.

 
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