"B-b-but...we're a movement too!"

FTFA: Her team is also expected to bring up a testy exchange of letters between McCain and Obama in 2006... "It was sad to watch," said a Clinton campaign source. "He has no idea how to deal with McCain."

This 'dirt' sounds suspiciously like a smear campaign against a candidate for hall monitor.

/the better way to deal with McCain is just to vote with him on issues like Iraq and Iran, like Clinton did

T-Servo: FTFA: Her team is also expected to bring up a testy exchange of letters between McCain and Obama in 2006... "It was sad to watch," said a Clinton campaign source. "He has no idea how to deal with McCain."

This 'dirt' sounds suspiciously like a smear campaign against a candidate for hall monitor.

/the better way to deal with McCain is just to vote with him on issues like Iraq and Iran, like Clinton did

Seriously.

McCain - "GODDAMN IT, WHY AREN'T YOU SUPPORTING THIS?"

Obama - "Why're you so pissed, dude?"

Clinton - "OBVIOUSLY, this proves Obama can't deal with McCain in a general election. Hillary '08."

WTF?

robsul82 [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-09 03:27:59 PM
"B-b-but...we're a movement too!"

How can anyone take Hillary seriously anymore? Her entire campaign has just turned into ripping off Obama.

Obama talks about change, Clinton turns around and say SHE is the "real" candidate of change.

Obama uses the slogan "Yes we can", Clinton turns around and uses the slogan "Yes SHE can" (Talk about totally missing the point, by the way)

Obama talks about dreams and vision, Clinton turns around and says SHE is the "real" dream candidate.

Obama portrays himself accurately as an underdog candidate new to washington and going up against an establishment candidate, Clinton turns around and claims (inaccurately) that "she" is the underdog going up against the washington establishement.

what a joke.

Bill Frist: robsul82 [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-09 03:27:59 PM
"B-b-but...we're a movement too!"

How can anyone take Hillary seriously anymore? Her entire campaign has just turned into ripping off Obama.

Obama talks about change, Clinton turns around and say SHE is the "real" candidate of change.

Obama uses the slogan "Yes we can", Clinton turns around and uses the slogan "Yes SHE can" (Talk about totally missing the point, by the way)

Obama talks about dreams and vision, Clinton turns around and says SHE is the "real" dream candidate.

Obama portrays himself accurately as an underdog candidate new to washington and going up against an establishment candidate, Clinton turns around and claims (inaccurately) that "she" is the underdog going up against the washington establishement.

what a joke.

Everybody knows that Obama is not the one coming up with the new campaign strategies, Hillary Clinton is the one coming up with the new campaign strategies.

/yeah, the copycat thing kinda pisses me off.

Obama is the the only one that stands a chance against McCain.

He's already leading her in pledged delegates.

/+1

"It was sad to watch," said a Clinton campaign source. "He has no idea how to deal with McCain."

Oh fark off. Obama voted against the war. Even if Obama had nothing else up his sleeve, that should shut McCain and Hillary up about foreign policy.

Hillary should drop out for the good of the party because if she wins the nomination we're going to have yet another republican in the white house, this one being at death's door.

Mugato: Oh fark off. Obama voted against the war. Even if Obama had nothing else up his sleeve, that should shut McCain and Hillary up about foreign policy.

Well he wasn't actually in the Senate at the time, but he spoke out against it.

I_Hate_Iowa: Mugato: Oh fark off. Obama voted against the war. Even if Obama had nothing else up his sleeve, that should shut McCain and Hillary up about foreign policy.

Well he wasn't actually in the Senate at the time, but he spoke out against it.

Yeah, that's what I meant, sorry.

quadropheniac: /yeah, the copycat thing kinda pisses me off.

its not so much the copy cat thing that pisses me off, its that people actually don't realize she's doing it.

Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

That was funny.

Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW

Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

I see 2 perturbed lesbians and a confused older gentleman who thinks this is a memorial for the guy who climbed Everest.

The only way I see McCain winning against Obama is to reunite the Republican party. To do that he'd have to find a very conservative, very connected candidate. Maybe a black woman to grab all the morons that vote along race and gender lines. With Rice as his running mate, Democrats would be united to vote for whoever their candidtae was to avoid the "four more years of Bush" impression and the Republican base would be unified and satisfied. I could see the Republican party forcing McCain to do this too. This fight still has a long, long way to go.

Washington is a delegate-heavy state, right?

Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

Best precinct pictures EVAR!

Looks like Hillary's next campaign chant will be "She gonna get raped." And I don't just mean becuase of the so-called feminists.

Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

I love the look on that geezers face. "We gonna get raped."

Frank N Stein: Washington is a delegate-heavy state, right?

78 pledged delegates and 19 super delegates. Current reports (anecdotal reports only) show Obama with a 3:1 lead over Hillary. They will likely break down HRC: 20, BHO: 58.

Frank N Stein: Washington is a delegate-heavy state, right?

78 delegates are tied to the vote, so if it really goes 75%-25% like we're seeing here in this thread, Obama will "catch up" on the order of 40 delegates. And that's pretty big at this point in the race.

Help protest underhanded politics:
Every time Clinton lies, changes her campaign slogan, or tries to indirectly smear Obama, donate $10 to Obama. (^)

Frank N Stein: Washington is a delegate-heavy state, right?

78 so.... pretty heavy, but not huge.

I wish Edwards would stop waiting it out to see who he supports. He's gonna come off as a bandwagoner if he doesnt make some sort of decision soon.

/right now I have a fever of 104
//and diarrhea like a laser

SilentStrider: quadropheniac: /yeah, the copycat thing kinda pisses me off.

its not so much the copy cat thing that pisses me off, its that people actually don't realize she's doing it.

THIS.

It's classic Rovian tactic. Take the thing that's getting your opponent the most traction, co-opt it and then claim that your candidate is REALLY that thing.

See Vet John Kerry turned into Traitor John Kerry while Dumbya becomes the "War President".

See also: Max Cleland.

ClintCo has all the scruples of BushCo.

Was gonna mention the fact that Code Archeologist rawks out loud but apparently most folk have figured this out.

Came to this thread fer the inevitable "buttsecks" pic and stayed fer extra helpings of WIN!

Ground_Hog: /right now I have a fever of 104
//and diarrhea like a laser

And I was hungry just a moment ago.

B Hussein looks like he picked up the momentum at just the right time. The Clinton camp is definitely worried; this was not supposed to happen, not to Hillary, not this year when it was an almost guaranteed Democrat victory. I'm sure behind closed doors, she is absolutely livid.

I am one of the (I) that will vote either Obama or McCain. The VP choice will be a deciding factor because I am interested in the decision making skills of the nominee. McCain has the lead now because I don't believe that our exit strategy from Iraq can be accomplished wih a set timetable and little monetary support. But if McCain chooses the moonbat Huckabee he loses me. If Obama chooses Webb then Obama gets my vote.

Code_Archeologist: Ground_Hog: /right now I have a fever of 104
//and diarrhea like a laser

And I was hungry just a moment ago.

I'm sure I could cook you something up.

bberg: 78 delegates are tied to the vote.

In addition, there are several uncommitted superdelegates in states like Washington and Nebraska who'd better be looking for a new state if they support Clinton after these drubbings.

bamnuke: I am one of the (I) that will vote either Obama or McCain. The VP choice will be a deciding factor because I am interested in the decision making skills of the nominee. McCain has the lead now because I don't believe that our exit strategy from Iraq can be accomplished wih a set timetable and little monetary support. But if McCain chooses the moonbat Huckabee he loses me. If Obama chooses Webb then Obama gets my vote.

What if McCain chooses Rice?

Ground_Hog: Code_Archeologist:And I was hungry just a moment ago.

I'm sure I could cook you something up.

How about chili, with chocolate mousse for dessert?

Atillathepun: Code_Archeologist: Pictures from a precinct in Washington.

Obama's side
Clinton's side

Its not even close.

I see 2 perturbed lesbians and a confused older gentleman who thinks this is a memorial for the guy who climbed Everest.

hahahahha, you farking magnificent bastard!

Born2late: Obama is the the only one that stands a chance against McCain.

FTFY. Obama has a good shot at winning. Hillary has a good shot at losing to absolutely any other choice on the ballot, including write-in votes for obvious joke names like Harry Balsack or Jenny Telwartz.

Ground_Hog: What if McCain chooses Rice?

Well, that's probably because he can't digest anything other than rice, and maybe some thin jello for dessert.

Ground_Hog: What if McCain chooses Rice?

Who cares where McCain gets his daily requirement of starch? I swear, you people worry about the weirdest things.

bamnuke [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-09 07:33:13 PM
I am one of the (I) that will vote either Obama or McCain. The VP choice will be a deciding factor because I am interested in the decision making skills of the nominee. McCain has the lead now because I don't believe that our exit strategy from Iraq can be accomplished wih a set timetable and little monetary support. But if McCain chooses the moonbat Huckabee he loses me. If Obama chooses Webb then Obama gets my vote.

One of the things that makes me most proud to be a Virginian was that we elected Webb. Dude rules. He is also a farking great novelist.

I really think VA could become a blue state this election if Obama is the nominee.

bamnuke: McCain has the lead now because I don't believe that our exit strategy from Iraq can be accomplished wih a set timetable and little monetary support.

McCain does not propose an exit strategy from Iraq in the next 100 years.
Obama has consistently voted for war funding.

Your entire premise of a poorly funded exit strategy being the major difference between the two is miserably off-base to say the least...

t3knomanser: Ground_Hog: What if McCain chooses Rice?

Well, that's probably because he can't digest anything other than rice, and maybe some thin jello for dessert.

bberg: Ground_Hog: What if McCain chooses Rice?

Who cares where McCain gets his daily requirement of starch? I swear, you people worry about the weirdest things.

THIS ARE SERIOUS QUESTION! ME DEMAND SERIOUS ANSWERSES!!!1

/you two almost had a simupost there too

Exit polls from Louisiana show that 70% on Clinton voters will ONLY be happy if Clinton gets the nomination. 44% of Obama supporters feel the same way.

This was reflected in my precinct when I voted today - Obama supporters were excited and Hillary supporters are extremely bitter and angry. It comes from the top down, clearly.

EdgeRunner: FTFY. Obama has a good shot at winning. Hillary has a good shot at losing to absolutely any other choice on the ballot, including write-in votes for obvious joke names like Harry Balsack or Jenny Telwartz.

Obama at least exudes a likable exterior and knew how to hire competent marketers. Clinton... she's got nothing. She can't run a campaign, she can't act likable.

I'm no Obama fan, but with the way his team knows how to market, he would absolutely crush the Republicans. Look at the logos! His is the only one that looks professionally designed. He's got a team that knows how to wrap him up and sell him to the public.

Lawnchair: In addition, there are several uncommitted superdelegates in states like Washington and Nebraska who'd better be looking for a new state if they support Clinton after these drubbings.

And if the superdelegates unfairly select Clinton over Obama when the convention comes, I think we'll find several million Democrats who will be looking for a new party.

Echoic: Exit polls from Louisiana show that 70% on Clinton voters will ONLY be happy if Clinton gets the nomination. 44% of Obama supporters feel the same way.

This was reflected in my precinct when I voted today - Obama supporters were excited and Hillary supporters are extremely bitter and angry. It comes from the top down, clearly.

Well, bitter and angry I can understand, but how did they feel about the Presidential race?

bberg: And if the superdelegates unfairly select Clinton over Obama when the convention comes, I think we'll find several million Democrats who will be looking for a new party.

It would be fantastic if there was a record number of people switching affiliation status either from dem or to repub if that happens.

It doesn't have to change your vote, but the party heads will notice that the people are unhappy with them.

Ground_Hog:

A choice of Rice does not get my vote. I think she has proven herself unworthy. She is the female equivalent of a "Yes Man". Nothing from the current administration should touch any part of a McCain ticket. And, based on the Bush-McCain history, I don't think it will. McCain needs an economic conservative, not necessarily a social conservative. IMHO and based on my value system.

/for the record, I am active duty military