I'm guessing the one in the middle made it back stage. She just has so much... enthusiasm. And a camera.

Jack Cafferty kissing Democrat ass? Shocking.

BravadoGT: Jack Cafferty kissing Democrat ass? Shocking.

Wow. That's all you got? Not that I expected much, you guys are pissing your pants about now.

cameroncrazy1984: BravadoGT: Jack Cafferty kissing Democrat ass? Shocking.

Wow. That's all you got? Not that I expected much, you guys are pissing your pants about now.

I thought he was going to mention how all the girls in the above picture are white.

robsul82: cameroncrazy1984: BravadoGT: Jack Cafferty kissing Democrat ass? Shocking.

Wow. That's all you got? Not that I expected much, you guys are pissing your pants about now.

I thought he was going to mention how all the girls in the above picture are white.

What's shocking is that the girl in the middle isn't naked on my doorstep right now.

robsul82: I thought he was going to mention how all the girls in the above picture are white.

Actually, now that you mention it, there aren't any men at all in that picture. Interesting. Was this an all-women's event or something? (DRTA.)

cameroncrazy1984: How do you survive on this site with an account name like that?

SlowTimedRapid: cameroncrazy1984: How do you survive on this site with an account name like that?

A huge ego.

Vote Obama

I don't know how he gets young people to vote. I honestly think they are simply looking at his looks. He's a young black guy and that screams "change"... nothing about what he says is all that inspiring. I've tried listening to him tons of times and can't shake the feeling that he never really says anything other than, "I'm going to bring change...". How, Barack? How?

blame canada: I don't know how he gets young people to vote. I honestly think they are simply looking at his looks. He's a young black guy and that screams "change"... nothing about what he says is all that inspiring. I've tried listening to him tons of times and can't shake the feeling that he never really says anything other than, "I'm going to bring change...". How, Barack? How?

www.barackobama.com

Look up under issues, and you get his policy proposals.

Also, simply treating politics not as a game where you beat the opponent *is* change.

Gregory F. Stuart: .

But you know who I really miss hearing about on Fark? Keith Olbermann. Oh, how people were foaming mad at the mouth, gnashing their teeth and stamping their feet because of all the Olbermann articles.

Did he die or something?

He's still around, solid as ever. I really like him - he made me into an MSNBC watcher.

robsul82: I thought he was going to mention how all the girls in the above picture are white.

Yeah, just like he inspired "Obama Girl"

/What, she voted, right?

obama will win because chelsea clinton is so farking ugly...

Gregory F. Stuart: But you know who I really miss hearing about on Fark? Keith Olbermann. Oh, how people were foaming mad at the mouth, gnashing their teeth and stamping their feet because of all the Olbermann articles.

Did he die or something?

Ratings-wise, he's been dead for quite a while...

Thor's Raging Ball of Flaming Nuclear Fury: obama will win because chelsea clinton is so farking ugly...

I was talking to an Obamite yesterday who remarked how hot Chelsea had become.

RKTeuthis: Thor's Raging Ball of Flaming Nuclear Fury: obama will win because chelsea clinton is so farking ugly...

I was talking to an Obamite yesterday who remarked how hot Chelsea had become.

the helen keller types always seem to be democrats...

Gregory F. Stuart: BravadoGT: Ratings-wise, he's been dead for quite a while...

Surprisingly, a majority of the country are retards intellectually challenged, and retardsintellectually challenged people tend to watch shows which contain content suitable for their level.

/I know, I was shocked too.

you are from the home of scientology... you must be proud...

Uhhh, this is true...?

Gregory F. Stuart: BravadoGT: Ratings-wise, he's been dead for quite a while...

Surprisingly, a majority of the country are retards intellectually challenged, and retardsintellectually challenged people tend to watch shows which contain content suitable for their level.

/I know, I was shocked too.

Yes! Being a smug, intellectually-superior liberal can be SO satisfying! There's nothing like the feeling of security that your political positions mean that you are substantially smarter than those who do not share them. Which is why I enjoy Olbermann so much-he not only agrees with us, but he reassures us that those who don't are just ignorant sheep! Oh, sure, he may take certain liberties with context and, occasionally, even facts to make his points, but hey-the truth is that we're smart and they're NOT.

So enjoy your "Faux" news, mouth-breathers! You are so small from up here-you look like little ants...

blame canada: I don't know how he gets young people to vote. I honestly think they are simply looking at his looks. He's a young black guy and that screams "change"... nothing about what he says is all that inspiring. I've tried listening to him tons of times and can't shake the feeling that he never really says anything other than, "I'm going to bring change...". How, Barack? How?

Barack Obama = not baby boomer divisive I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG politics. That's enough for me.

/even though I'm not legally allowed to vote.

I like Obama. I like him a whole lot. Read the books, read the policy statements, have followed what legislation he has gotten passed in just a few years (Obama-Lugar, Obama-Hagel, Obama-Feingold) versus what she has. I'm voting *for* him.

But, if there's identity politics going on here, race and gender are second fiddle to generational bitterness.

Consider that until Obama's DNC speech in '04 pushed him to the best-seller list, he and Michelle were still paying off their student loans and credit cards. The Clintons? What student loans? This is not because the Clintons were better students (they weren't). It's because of the change in the country between 1973 and 1990 (Obama worked, basically for nothing, for several years between undergrad and law school).

The difference is significant. Out of WWII, the country was in serious debt. Truman, Eisenhower (in particular), and JFK did not want to leave crushing debts on the Boomers. Ike spent a *whole lot* on educational and vocational training opportunities, as well as on building the backbone of the country by the Interstates and dams. He did this with balanced budgets and paying down the debts, by among other things, a *91%!* top marginal tax rate.

Come the Reagan years, the richest Boomers were getting into well-paying jobs. Pay it forward? No! Spend, spend, tax cut, tax cut. Eventually, we'll cut some spending, but tax cuts first. And, we've been eating into our infrastructure "seed corn" for the last 30 years.

The Clintons did alright at managing things, considering. Post-Cold War military cost reductions helped a whole lot. There was also quite a bit of slight-of-hand, underfunding Social Security for one. So, it's not directly their fault, but they probably could have done more.

But, there is a serious mistrust of (a segment of the) Boomers by younger generations. Even some among the really old. Your cheapness has cost us a lot of what you were handed. So, yeah, Gen X and Y is going to side with Obama, just as a brother in age.

Outtaphase: I'm guessing the one in the middle made it back stage. She just has so much... enthusiasm. And a camera.

Your post (and photo) reminds me of something I've come to a decision on - if Obama is the nominee I'll make every effort to do some campaigning/volunteering for him. Not only because I believe in his candidacy, but because of the cute college girls who love him. Giggity.

Lawnchair

I like the cut of your jib... great post!

/08ama!

I could inspire a crowd that way, but I gave it up for Lent.

Lawnchair: I like Obama. I like him a whole lot. Read the books, read the policy statements, have followed what legislation he has gotten passed in just a few years (Obama-Lugar, Obama-Hagel, Obama-Feingold) versus what she has. I'm voting *for* him.

But, if there's identity politics going on here, race and gender are second fiddle to generational bitterness.

Consider that until Obama's DNC speech in '04 pushed him to the best-seller list, he and Michelle were still paying off their student loans and credit cards. The Clintons? What student loans? This is not because the Clintons were better students (they weren't). It's because of the change in the country between 1973 and 1990 (Obama worked, basically for nothing, for several years between undergrad and law school).

The difference is significant. Out of WWII, the country was in serious debt. Truman, Eisenhower (in particular), and JFK did not want to leave crushing debts on the Boomers. Ike spent a *whole lot* on educational and vocational training opportunities, as well as on building the backbone of the country by the Interstates and dams. He did this with balanced budgets and paying down the debts, by among other things, a *91%!* top marginal tax rate.

Come the Reagan years, the richest Boomers were getting into well-paying jobs. Pay it forward? No! Spend, spend, tax cut, tax cut. Eventually, we'll cut some spending, but tax cuts first. And, we've been eating into our infrastructure "seed corn" for the last 30 years.

The Clintons did alright at managing things, considering. Post-Cold War military cost reductions helped a whole lot. There was also quite a bit of slight-of-hand, underfunding Social Security for one. So, it's not directly their fault, but they probably could have done more.

But, there is a serious mistrust of (a segment of the) Boomers by younger generations. Even some among the really old. Your cheapness has cost us a lot of what you were handed. So, yeah, Gen X and Y is going to side with Obama, just as a brother in age.

is there a way you could summarize that with a funny picture?

I heard that that Obama chick with the large boobs was not so inspired, therefore I am unimpressed...

too bad he doesn't stand for anything realistic.
he's another dumb liberal.

When is he getting back together with the Beaver Brown Band?

/Obama's "On the dark side, oh yeah."

godofusa.com: too bad he doesn't stand for anything realistic.
he's another dumb liberal.

2/10

Not nearly frothing-at-the-mouth enough.

It had to be done:

DamnYankees: godofusa.com: too bad he doesn't stand for anything realistic.
he's another dumb liberal.

2/10

Not nearly frothing-at-the-mouth enough.

His stances (new window)

godofusa.com: His stances (new window)

And?

Echoic: godofusa.com: His stances (new window)

And?

I don't like them.

Lawnchair: I like Obama. I like him a whole lot. Read the books, read the policy statements, have followed what legislation he has gotten passed in just a few years (Obama-Lugar, Obama-Hagel, Obama-Feingold) versus what she has. I'm voting *for* him.

But, if there's identity politics going on here, race and gender are second fiddle to generational bitterness.

Consider that until Obama's DNC speech in '04 pushed him to the best-seller list, he and Michelle were still paying off their student loans and credit cards. The Clintons? What student loans? This is not because the Clintons were better students (they weren't). It's because of the change in the country between 1973 and 1990 (Obama worked, basically for nothing, for several years between undergrad and law school).

The difference is significant. Out of WWII, the country was in serious debt. Truman, Eisenhower (in particular), and JFK did not want to leave crushing debts on the Boomers. Ike spent a *whole lot* on educational and vocational training opportunities, as well as on building the backbone of the country by the Interstates and dams. He did this with balanced budgets and paying down the debts, by among other things, a *91%!* top marginal tax rate.

Come the Reagan years, the richest Boomers were getting into well-paying jobs. Pay it forward? No! Spend, spend, tax cut, tax cut. Eventually, we'll cut some spending, but tax cuts first. And, we've been eating into our infrastructure "seed corn" for the last 30 years.

The Clintons did alright at managing things, considering. Post-Cold War military cost reductions helped a whole lot. There was also quite a bit of slight-of-hand, underfunding Social Security for one. So, it's not directly their fault, but they probably could have done more.

But, there is a serious mistrust of (a segment of the) Boomers by younger generations. Even some among the really old. Your cheapness has cost us a lot of what you were handed. So, yeah, Gen X and Y is going to side with Obama, just as a brother in age.

That made too much farking sense. Someone make a ha-ha picture for this dude.

/Good summary

blame canada: I don't know how he gets young people to vote. I honestly think they are simply looking at his looks. He's a young black guy and that screams "change"... nothing about what he says is all that inspiring. I've tried listening to him tons of times and can't shake the feeling that he never really says anything other than, "I'm going to bring change...". How, Barack? How?

Transparent Democracy
Ethics

This is what I think the real difference between Obama and Clinton is, and where Obama's presidency would bring about dramatic change. He shows a much stronger commitment to transparency and favors bringing so much of the workings of the federal government out into the open for the whole public to easily access. And it isn't all just talk; he and Tom Coburn created the legislation that led to the creation of usaspending.gov. I think that the level of openness he wants to bring to government is absolutely crucial to it functioning effectively, efficiently and ethically.

Lawnchair: But, if there's identity politics going on here, race and gender are second fiddle to generational bitterness.

Farkin' old people, get back to your lawn-care.

Lawnchair: I've been saying the same thing and getting mocked for it. This really is the issue upon which the nation hinges. Age is the root, but it branches into every other social divide. The status quo versus the anti-establishment, haves versus have nots, racism and sexism versus neutrality, social mobility versus stratification, evangelical puritanism versus lenient social mores, traditionalists versus technophiles. You name it. The Boomers feel that they have worked hard to earn what they have and that they now deserve their current dominant socioeconomic position. The younger generations feel betrayed by the Boomers, who took an unmatched period of prosperity and pissed it away.

Obama has a snowball's chance of uniting the two disparate groups around a common goal. I look at the rest of the field, and all I see is an imminent age war.

godofusa.com: DamnYankees: godofusa.com: too bad he doesn't stand for anything realistic.
he's another dumb liberal.

2/10

Not nearly frothing-at-the-mouth enough.

His stances (new window)

"Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)"

Oh sure-the medical community may say that it's a gruesome procedure with no medical necessity for ever performing one, but hey-what the hell do they know?

I blame BUSH! Seriously, Obama and Paul get all this credit for getting young people fired up, in reality the young people were walking gasoline cans just looking for a match. Face it, people are pissed at the way things have been going and when they get pissed enough that they start to feel like they are being discommoded they will in fact get off of their ass and do something out of self interest. With Obama they got off to a good start in Universities and made it Obamarama, now it is teh cool to support Obama. I don't have a problem with this and Obama is a good speaker, but Bush is the real motivation here.

I don't think my absentee ballot is going to come in time.
/sorry Obama

"...it's that he inspires young people to actually vote"

I will believe it when it happens.

BravadoGT: "Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)"

Oh sure-the medical community may say that it's a gruesome procedure with no medical necessity for ever performing one, but hey-what the hell do they know?

Your source? And having known doctors who have performed intact D&E to save women badly injured in car crashes from septic uteruses, I'm just going to call bullshiat on the claim anyway.

burndtdan: is there a way you could summarize that with a funny picture?

captainktainer: BravadoGT: "Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)"

Oh sure-the medical community may say that it's a gruesome procedure with no medical necessity for ever performing one, but hey-what the hell do they know?

Your source? And having known doctors who have performed intact D&E to save women badly injured in car crashes from septic uteruses, I'm just going to call bullshiat on the claim anyway.

Not that I don't believe you (I don't), but in either case, the ban included an "except to save the life of the mother" clause. Obama still voted against it.

Oh-my source? The official Congressional findings:

"((1) A moral, medical, and ethical consensus exists that the practice of performing a partial-birth abortion--an abortion in which a physician deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living, unborn child's body until either the entire baby's head is outside the body of the mother, or any part of the baby's trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother and only the head remains inside the womb, for the purpose of performing an overt act (usually the puncturing of the back of the child's skull and removing the baby's brains) that the person knows will kill the partially delivered infant, performs this act, and then completes delivery of the dead infant--is a gruesome and inhumane procedure that is never medically necessary and should be prohibited.

(2) Rather than being an abortion procedure that is embraced by the medical community, particularly among physicians who routinely perform other abortion procedures, partial-birth abortion remains a disfavored procedure that is not only unnecessary to preserve the health of the mother, but in fact poses serious risks to the long-term health of women and in some circumstances, their lives. As a result, at least 27 States banned the procedure as did the United States Congress which voted to ban the procedure during the 104th, 105th, and 106th Congresses." Link (new window)

Obama had better be hoping on the young and naive. Because anyone that's been through an election before shouldn't be dumb enough to vote for him.

Desterion: Obama had better be hoping on the young and naive. Because anyone that's been through an election before shouldn't be dumb enough to vote for him.

Says the Bush supporter...

Nobody listens to you guys anymore. You've proven just how bad your judgment is enough times for us to have lost count.

Desterion: Obama had better be hoping on the young and naive. Because anyone that's been through an election before shouldn't be dumb enough to vote for him.

Mmmmmmm... That's good troll.

Desterion: Obama had better be hoping on the young and naive. Because anyone that's been through an election before shouldn't be dumb enough to vote for him.

I can smell the fear.