That is in NO way a metaphor for what she will do to the country if elected...

I'm solidly behind Obama, but Clinton Campaigners =/= Clinton.

Smear article

But did they leave the 'W' keys?

In their defense, they are working for a candidate that has promised to take care of everyone. It only makes sense they'd expect others to take care of their mess too.

Unright: I'm solidly behind Obama, but Clinton Campaigners =/= Clinton.

Smear article

No, a representative of an organization is responsible because they represent said organization in their acts. They were there on Clinton's behalf, she is responsible for their acts.

It's like saying after she were elected "too be fair, it was the Clinton administration that did such and such, not Hillary herself".

/Responsibility, it's a two way street.

That's the same way they left the white house.

BackAssward

It's like saying after she were elected "too be fair, it was the Clinton administration that did such and such, not Hillary herself".

/Responsibility, it's a two way street.

So, um, how do you feel about Abu Ghraib?

Unright: I'm solidly behind Obama, but Clinton Campaigners =/= Clinton.

This seems to be a rather common theme among Clinton partisans in my experience to date. I have yet to meet a single Clinton partisan who was not a self-centered and strident ass clown.

And by Clinton partisan I mean people who are actual campaign volunteers/workers.

Weaver95: That's the same way they left the white house.

Swing and a miss. - Pops

Code_Archeologist: This seems to be a rather common theme among Clinton partisans in my experience to date. I have yet to meet a single Clinton partisan who was not a self-centered and strident ass clown.

And by Clinton partisan I mean people who are actual campaign volunteers/workers.

Actually, my personal anecdotes are pretty similar to yours. But my anecdotes aren't the subject of newspaper articles.

oldebayer: So, um, how do you feel about Abu Ghraib?

Not sure what you are asking specifically.

My point is that the people in an organization represent the organization by their acts. If this is the type of people in the organization, then the management isn't doing it's job. If the management isn't capable of doing it's job, then you can trace that up through the organization as systematic.

This is the Clinton organization it seems.

/Personally, I have no feelings on her.
//If your organization, representatives specifically sent somewhere represent you, do so badly, it is your organization's responsibility, and by extension yours.
///It is in her best interest to ensure her people represent her well. If they don't it is by extension a comment on her.

Unright: Actually, my personal anecdotes are pretty similar to yours. But my anecdotes aren't the subject of newspaper articles.

Well dammit, they should be. I wonder how many people who have voted for Hillary, or are thinking of voting for Hillary, have actually had to spend 5 minutes with one of her partisans?

I had one lady tell me that my mother would be ashamed of me for supporting Obama. And how dare I support a candidate who wants us to revert back to the age of back alley abortions.

I had no response for her... because how do you respond to that much crazy all in one person?

Code_Archeologist: Well dammit, they should be. I wonder how many people who have voted for Hillary, or are thinking of voting for Hillary, have actually had to spend 5 minutes with one of her partisans?

Given that the last anti-Obama stories have been attacking his backers as bing 'cultish'. It would be hypocritical to attack Hillary through her campaigners.

Every single candidate has stupid followers. If you want politics to be more civil, stick to criticizing policy.

I support Obama and I'm taking the high road on this.

Unright: I support Obama and I'm taking the high road on this.

I understand that... and I support Obama too and try to stay dispassionate in my support. But it is getting harder to not explode at Clinton partisans and tell them to go DIAF.

No deposit left behind?

There are certain topic where the entire thread should just be automated. We have already had this discussion and performed the manual labor of citing references and making smart-assed comments. We should be able to script it and save a lot of time.

BravadoGT, brilliant observation.

You had me at Clinton staff stiffed .

The Onanist: Weaver95: That's the same way they left the white house.

Swing and a miss. - Pops

Sorry, not buying the "miss", even as weak as it was.

"consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy"

How's that a "miss"?

How dare all of you imply that Clinton should have cleaned up her messes? Are you so backwards that you still believe cleaning is a woman's duty? I thought Fark was comprised of the bottom of the barrel in intellect, but this just..

..ok, I can't do it with a straight face. How do you trolls actually finish your tirades? :)

"Don't worry, taxpayers will pick up the tab!"

She's a disgusting human being. What more explanation do you need?

A real landlord would have gotten the rent upfront.

/Never rent on a promise.

THat's what they get for letting Bill in.

Camacho for Prez, b*tches.

The Onanist: Weaver95: That's the same way they left the white house.

Swing and a miss. - Pops

It's a cover-up. And you're in on it. Just like everybody else.

that's like 3 days after the primary here in Arizona and the only signs littering the corners and telephone poles and trees and pretty much anything not moving are Ron Paul's. Not a one for Obama or McCain or Clinton or Romney but Ron Paul freakin' every where.

Hows bout you Revo-cycle after doing your chanting and holding your signs you crazy Paulites?

They left this as a momento
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This story brought to you by The Barrack Obama Campaign.

/or some jackass screwed these people over without consulting the Clintons.

didn't they trash the white house before leaving?
Glued keys down on keyboards, etc and other high school acts of sabotage

Soaked all the rolls of toilet paper
You know a very mature departure

schiefaw: There are certain topic where the entire thread should just be automated. We have already had this discussion and performed the manual labor of citing references and making smart-assed comments. We should be able to script it and save a lot of time.

THIS!

Clinton campaigners in Nosebleed, LA aren't a reflection of Clinton's character. This article stinks.

Wow! Imagine if it had been Ron Paul campaign staff. He'd be totally responsible for that himself. All those bongwater stains on the carpet? HIS!

pounddawg: A real landlord would have gotten the rent upfront.

/Never rent on a promise.

And whatever political party you rent to, you always get the rent up front. And a huge damage deposit. Because the people who work these things think the sun shines out their ass.

BravadoGT: That is in NO way a metaphor for what she will do to the country if elected...


We have a winner!

/Thread over.

Her slogan should be:

"Twice the taxes, half the rights"

I assume the 'dumbass' is for a landlord who doesn't get a large deposit and a signed contract when dealing with Democrats.

Trashy people do things like that.

Having been volunteering for one of the presidential campaign for a few months, here is my take on this:

As a volunteer/campaign worker, you are the face of the campaign. Logically, of course the workers/volunteers =/= the candidate, BUT most people who you interact with will base some or all of their opinion of a candidate based on those who represent the candidate. I have to remember to always be positive when wearing my campaign button and other gear. When people engage me in conversation that takes on a negative tone, I smile and try to direct the conversation towards a different topic (even though I would love to engage in a lively debate). So, while this story may be meaningless for those of us who follow the news, care about policy and such, for some people it will be representative of the candidate. This sort of thing reinforces some long standing ideas about Clinton - when you up a leave a campaign office without bothering to clean up or pay rent, your campaign comes off as inconsiderate and uncaring.

Trik: didn't they trash the white house before leaving?
Glued keys down on keyboards, etc and other high school acts of sabotage

Soaked all the rolls of toilet paper
You know a very mature departure

LEGACY

mike_d85: This story brought to you by The Barrack Obama Campaign.

/or some jackass screwed these people over without consulting the Clintons.

Sorry but this is standard for all campaigns. When a bid for office ends, whoever is still owed money gets screwed over.

The clintons, and their supporters do no appear to be real high up on the brimming with integrity scale.

oldebayer 2008-02-08 11:41:59 AM
BackAssward

It's like saying after she were elected "too be fair, it was the Clinton administration that did such and such, not Hillary herself".

/Responsibility, it's a two way street.

So, um, how do you feel about Abu Ghraib?

WOW this early and we already have a B-B-Bush! Blame? Why is it so hard to keep the Clinton supporters on a theme other than blaming Bush? Or even any accountability? I guess the supporters learn their actions from the top.

// Oh ya..... Bush is not running for those who might not have realized that.

FTFA
"They left enough trash for a small army," said Bennett. "We filled two of those big black trash bags with what they left."

Since when do 2 trash bags count as "enough for a small army"
WTF???

Trik: didn't they trash the white house before leaving?
Glued keys down on keyboards, etc and other high school acts of sabotage

Soaked all the rolls of toilet paper
You know a very mature departure


Yes.

/Back in college, one of my professors actually thought it was funny. Look, I know you hate W. and everything, but that was a classless move on their part.

If you waste my tax dollars, I'm not laughing.

Was the furniture still there?

jjorsett: I assume the 'dumbass' is for a landlord who doesn't get a large deposit and a signed contract when dealing with Democrats anyone.

FTFY

Imagine the mess they will leave at 1600 pennsylvania ave. if that biatch gets elected?

Criminalization of vandalization and violation of a lease agreement. Non-story.

/DNRTFA
//Overzealous staffers FTW

What? More than 35 entries in and No Animal House References?


I am Mucho Disapointed.
;)

YAY

A politics thread. Now we can stop arguing about religion.