Sure thing, Scarlett. But what's in it for me?

/wink wink

I would be angry if Scarlett Johansson was calling me to. I mean shiat, I have that restraining order against her for a reason. Keep those pointy knees away from me biatch!

Well well, how YOU doin'?

Got to: "Not a brave one taking risky positions like Ron Paul"
and realized I needed to read no further.

It's like Scarlett and I can't even get our freak on anymore without "Obama this" and "Obama that".

The dude is Urkel with a better tailor.

Gold.

/Was joking not trolling

Coming to Scarlett?

I am not supporting Obama because I have stars in my eyes. I am supporting Obama because he has the best chance at beating the the douchebag party...

Billary has too much baggage going on, too easy of a target. Look what they did to Kerry and he was a god damn war vet...

FTFA: That's the gayest e-mail I've ever read, and I get notes from guys who've seen me on E!

Win!

OMG OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE FANATICS!!1 trifecta now in play

There have been several of these articles saying the exact same thing in the last few days

I smell Hillary surrogates lurking around this

It's okay. He'll rise again in the polls in 3 days.

You know, Scarlett, if you want to sway my vote...

Wow, people are passionate about Obama. It must mean Hillary is the way to go.

Lukewarm support FTW .... I guess. Whatever.

FTFA: "We want what he represents," she said. "A young, idealistic person who really believes it. And he believes it. He believes he can change the world. I just don't think he can."

Well, by all means vote for the person who can't get elected instead. Hillary will be able to produce a lot of positive change while McCain is in the White House

Jeebus, author, if you weren't barely out of the cradle, you would know that people make "get out the vote" calls at election time. Do write again when you know anything about politics.

This has been my lifelong fantasy. Scarlett and Oprah.... uh.... making me vote for some black dude.... oh, yeah, that's it.... Hillary unhappy.... aaaaahhhhhhh....

So where are the stories saying how creepy it is that middle-aged women are voting out of their love for Bill Clinton?

Because that is kinda creepy, and I've heard it a number of times from Hillary supporters.

AndyKOctopus: There have been several of these articles saying the exact same thing in the last few days

I smell Hillary surrogates lurking around this

It is kinda funny, that big bag a dirt that the Clintons were holding back but the Republicans would totally unleash in the election must be getting kinda light if liking the guy is some sort of zinger.

One thing I have been consciously aware of lately is a potential for the movement to change into a cult of personality. I think that really is a genuine problem, as many Americans fall for the persona and less for the policies. To that end, I've made sure I understand his policies, and simply beyond articulating them, see if I actually agree with them. For the most part I do, with the exception of cutting the space budget to shreds, but I understand where his priority lies.

To me, what makes him so refreshing is his foreign policy position, the fact that he's willing to meet with leaders. I have a Master's in international law and international security, and I can tell you the conventional thinking revolves around this Cold War confrontation tit-for-tat mentality, and it's dated. Hell, it was dated under Clinton the First. Now that there is a multipolar world, the longer we attempt to isolate "rogue states" the greater the potential for us to become isolated, as others reach out. In the end, we will be standing still while the world passes by. We do not live in an "us vs. them" world.

I think the argument that somehow meeting with these leaders lowers the credibility or standing of America is garbage. We're the USA, there is no threat out there so dangerous that we can't meet it, and yes, that includes fundamentalists/terrorists. If anything it enhances it. Besides, what's the reaction of the world when we show up to the table to discuss the problems and the others don't? A lot better than the mentality of shoot first and ask questions later, I assure you. And hell, we might even gain a little bit of that 9/11 currency back that Bush pissed away in the process.

moriarty23: AndyKOctopus: There have been several of these articles saying the exact same thing in the last few days

I smell Hillary surrogates lurking around this

It is kinda funny, that big bag a dirt that the Clintons were holding back but the Republicans would totally unleash in the election must be getting kinda light if liking the guy is some sort of zinger.

Remember Obama got elected because the guy he was slated to run against, Jack Ryan no kidding, was told by the Republican Party to drop out. The reason he was told to drop out, he at one point wanted to have public sex with his wife.



This Wife

/Who wouldn't wanna have public sex with her.
//Obama didn't stand a chance before this happened.

The dude is Urkel with a better tailor.

You know, I'd vote for Urkel. He's use his cloning machine to solve world hunger, and then make a time machine and delete this Iraq fiasco from history.

/machines - they're more reliable than people

globalwarmingpraiser:
Remember Obama got elected because the guy he was slated to run against, Jack Ryan no kidding, was told by the Republican Party to drop out. The reason he was told to drop out, he at one point wanted to have public sex with his wife.

Yea, I know the story well.
As much as a picture of Jeri is on topic anywhere on fark, I can't really understand how it would be a response to my post.

During election time, people get emotionally invested in a candidate.

This is so retarded. News needs conflict. That's what makes a story interesting. The media has spent the better part of 4 years hyping up Obama as the contrast to politics as usual, a wunderkind. They've called him "a rock star" and a unifier while Bush has been mangling the English language and blugoening any opposition with divisive attacks on partisanship and patriotism. They've played his young, multicultural image in contrast to the boring homogeneity of rich, old, white politicians-as-usual.

Now he's succeeding. And they've already shot their race and gender wads selling his "conflicts" with Hillary. The right is devouring its own as Romney exits a revamped conservative and McCain is called a liberal. There's really not a lot of conflict left aside from actual debates between Obama and Hillary. They have similar policies with important but mostly well-aired differences. Obama isn't suffering from funding problems like Hillary may or may not (conflict either way!) have been.

This is as close as they can get to a story with conflict- "I like the guy, but not as much as some of you guys. Your enthusiasm and emotion is an affront to my detached Gen-Y hipster cynicism. You can like him, but just not too much, okay? I'm trying to look cool and you're embarrassing me."

BFD.

Yeah, because when I think of young adults becoming interested in the political system in a way that not even farking 9/11 (Not giuliani, the event) could bring, I think, "Woah, man, this is a creepy sexual disorder."

/Politicopheliac

I thought we stopped caring what famous people think (besides Oprah. Oprah commands a massive minion army). Haven't we stopped caring about what famous people think?

I've been an unabashed Obama supporter since he announced. He inspired me to come out of my inherent cynicism and actually get involved. I'm on my way to volunteer for the rally in Seattle today, and I will serve as a precinct captain during the caucus tomorrow.

That being said, yeah, some of these people who have jumped on the Obama bandwagon lately seriously creep me out. But I guess this is what happens with any popular movement. It's inherent in our society.

Sorry got distracted by the hot pic. But say what you will Obama was successful in Illinois politics. The politics are usually dirty. If there was any dirt on Obama it would have come out.



/Cause I never get tired of her hotness.

Jesus Farking Christ: For the most part I do, with the exception of cutting the space budget to shreds, but I understand where his priority lies.

I disagree with his position, but I don't worry about it too much because he'll still have to go through Congress to get it done. I doubt the Texas and Florida delegations will let things go too far.

globalwarmingpraiser: The reason he was told to drop out, he at one point wanted to have public sex with his wife.

And really, who can blame him?

Remember Obama got elected because the guy he was slated to run against, Jack Ryan no kidding, was told by the Republican Party to drop out.

BS. Obama was leading in the polls by as much as 20 points before that scandal broke. Ryan was a sleazebucket for other reasons (the Justin Warfel incidents had already been exposed by then) and Illinois is after all a fairly solidly blue state.

globalwarmingpraiser: Remember Obama got elected because the guy he was slated to run against, Jack Ryan no kidding, was told by the Republican Party to drop out.

From Wiki:

Controversially, in 2004, Ryan had Justin Warfel (a campaign worker) followed his opponent, Barack Obama, twenty-four hours a day and record everything he did in public on videotape. Warfel did not follow Obama into his office or private residences, but he recorded Obama at all other times. Warfel also heckled Obama by yelling questions at him in public. The tactic backfired when many people, including Ryan's supporters, criticized this activity.

Yea, that guy sounds like he would have been a real winner if not for the sex thing.

DarnoKonrad: globalwarmingpraiser: Remember Obama got elected because the guy he was slated to run against, Jack Ryan no kidding, was told by the Republican Party to drop out.

From Wiki:

Controversially, in 2004, Ryan had Justin Warfel (a campaign worker) followed his opponent, Barack Obama, twenty-four hours a day and record everything he did in public on videotape. Warfel did not follow Obama into his office or private residences, but he recorded Obama at all other times. Warfel also heckled Obama by yelling questions at him in public. The tactic backfired when many people, including Ryan's supporters, criticized this activity.

Yea, that guy sounds like he would have been a real winner if not for the sex thing.

Trust me he was winning. I was living there. Ryan was a shoe-in. That is normal Illinois politics.

subby chose the wrong funny line from this, IMO:

I couldn't figure out if the two canvassers who came to my door Sunday had taken Ecstasy or were just fantasizing about an Obama presidency, but I feared they were going to hug me.

I never thought about the Peter Sellers in "Being There" analogy before he wrote it, but there does seem to be an awful lot of projection onto Obama -- whatever one disaffected person wants him to be, he is.

What I find interesting about it is, the warm, fuzzy and foggy campaign strategy is just that -- Obama's campaign strategy. He also strikes me as sharp, articulate and intelligent (if very liberal) on the issues; his folks have just figured out he's scoring better being the Nonspecific Inspirer rather than the policy wonk.

Hillary would relish getting Obama talking issues instead of gathering fishermen to him; she knows she can't out-hope him. That's why she wants a buttload of debates.

The thing I wonder about with the "Obama movement" people, the ones more inspired by the personality, the charisma and the nonspecific message of hope and inspiration than anything else is ...

Part of being president is making tough, often unpopular decisions. What happens when President Obama makes a military or policy decision that you completely oppose? Or decides to compromise with Republicans in Congress to get something done on an issue but not everything he, or you, would want?

globalwarmingpraiser: Trust me he was winning. I was living there. Ryan was a shoe-in. That is normal Illinois politics.

Obama had been in the lead since the March primary. The scandal didn't break until late June. You're making things up.

Every poll I saw had Ryan winning. Noone even knew who Obama was outside Chicago. Oh wait, I keep forgetting Chicago is the only place in Illinois that matters. Blago would tell you that.

To me, what makes him so refreshing is his foreign policy position, the fact that he's willing to meet with leaders. I have a Master's in international law and international security, and I can tell you the conventional thinking revolves around this Cold War confrontation tit-for-tat mentality, and it's dated. Hell, it was dated under Clinton the First. Now that there is a multipolar world, the longer we attempt to isolate "rogue states" the greater the potential for us to become isolated, as others reach out. In the end, we will be standing still while the world passes by. We do not live in an "us vs. them" world.

QFT Worth repeating. The only way to pacify these "lesser includeds" is to include them. Tit-for-tat, go it alone does not work. We keep looking for the next Soviet Union and it's leaving us completely unprepared to deal with the 21st century's real threats. I want someone in office who's willing to talk to rougue leaders, and Obama is the only one who's willing to do that. Obviously the Bush/Clinton policy of stonewalling them does not work.

globalwarmingpraiser: Every poll I saw had Ryan winning.

Even before the release of the court files, Ryan had trailed Obama by a wide margin in public opinion polls - Chicago Tribune

Obama, who had been leading polls since the March primary, avoided getting in the way of Ryan's fall, and said Friday he didn't care to talk about the allegations. - Fox News

I, for one, am pretty darned happy Seven refused to go down.

Jon, I stand corrected. Although I tend to discount anything the Trib says about non Dem politicians. I stand by the principle though that most of his support at the time came from Chicago. But I will admit when I have been trump. Good play.

Jon Snow
This is as close as they can get to a story with conflict- "I like the guy, but not as much as some of you guys. Your enthusiasm and emotion is an affront to my detached Gen-Y hipster cynicism. You can like him, but just not too much, okay? I'm trying to look cool and you're embarrassing me."

This.

Ah yes, affected disdain and ridicule of enthusiasm and action in others.

Is anything more tragically hip than the "seen it all" cynicism of a sarcastic thirty-something vainly fighting the inexorable approach of the big four oh?

ravenlore: I, for one, am pretty darned happy Seven refused to go down.

You wouldn't be so happy if it was you she refused. hypocrite.


/Obligatory

1. Without such uber-enthusiastic support, Obama wouldn't be in the position he is today.

2. If Obama inspires you to donate/call/vote, you are part of his campaign. If he inspires you to join Americorp or other, you are part of his movement.

3. Nobody likes anybody more enthusiastic about something than they themselves are, especially politics. This is because people largely suck in America.

//GOBAMA

The writer of the articles mother sounds like a real coont.

Take the negativity elsewhere, I'm actually happy with a candidate for once in my life.

Jesus Farking Christ: One thing I have been consciously aware of lately is a potential for the movement to change into a cult of personality.

Like Regan?

globalwarmingpraiser: Oh wait, I keep forgetting Chicago is the only place in Illinois that matters. Blago would tell you that.

The only other city anyone from another state can name is Springfield and that is because we associate it with the Simpsons and Rick. Without Chicago, Illinois is just another Iowa. The Chicago metro area accounts for 2/3rds of the population. In other words Blago is right.

I bet Joel Stein used to listen to N*Sync when they were underground.