don't they already have those? marbloro 72's?!?

great a smoking thread!

/lights up

Smoking is.....

"as American as apple pies and soul train,
baseball, nickel plated nines, and cocaine"

//obscure??

Mmmmm... snacks.

In much more disturbing news- the European Parliament is trying to ban patio heaters? WTF!

If you object then maybe you shouldn't buy those types of cigarettes, submitter.

I don't smoke (never have)*, but as an adult I should be able to do whatever I want to my own body.

*Also never did drugs, never drank, never wanted to.

As someone who has smoked an entire Lucky Strike unfiltered in 3 minutes because thats all I was given for a break, I have three words for everyone involved in this.

Man. Up. Nancy.

Epiphany: don't they already have those? marbloro 72's?!?

great a smoking thread!

/lights up

Smoking is.....

"as American as apple pies and soul train,
baseball, nickel plated nines, and cocaine"

//obscure??

that's what I came to say. I love teh 72's, but I'm guessing they have a little less nicotine than a regular red.

Emogeek: As someone who has smoked an entire Lucky Strike unfiltered in 3 minutes because thats all I was given for a break, I have three words for everyone involved in this.

Man. Up. Nancy.

Off topic, but didn't Lucky Strike discontinue distribution of their their filtered cigarettes in the states not long ago?

Yes, we were due for another anti-freedom thread.

Anti-smoking fits the bill just as well as any other topic.

Emogeek: As someone who has smoked an entire Lucky Strike unfiltered in 3 minutes because thats all I was given for a break, I have three words for everyone involved in this.

Man. Up. Nancy.

Ahaha, as a non-smoker who occasionally gets the urge for nicotine when drinking, I wholeheartedy get a kick out of this reply.

Maximum Leader: Off topic, but didn't Lucky Strike discontinue distribution of their their filtered cigarettes in the states not long ago?

I believe so. It was an effort to try to encourage a new crop of smokers to try the brand, but it never caught on.

Besides, regular Luckies really are pretty tasty.

L.S./M.F.T.

I have one smoke left and I pray its my last (im taking zyban, and am on that second end of day when you stop). Quit for 2 years, went to Europe and started again dammit. I have always been a big pot lover and just don't really smoke pot anymore, old and busy with career and family, but why oh why do I crave smokes more than anything.

Probably the only thing I ever regret doing in life (at least all my other farkups when younger, I didn't do again).

Perhaps they should make a crack rock of pure nicotine.

USP .45: Yes, we were due for another anti-freedom thread.

Anti-smoking fits the bill just as well as any other topic.

I'd be more concerned about warrantless domestic wiretapping buddy boy.

Oh, also: HURRRRR

A spokesman for Forest, the pro-smoking lobby group, said: "The real pity is that smokers have to be rushed at all because people enjoy the sensation of having a cigarette."

It is a pity. Still, I will freeze my ass off in a blizzard to get my fix, and I don't rush even if I can't feel my hands. Addictions are silly.

One F Jef: USP .45: Yes, we were due for another anti-freedom thread.

Anti-smoking fits the bill just as well as any other topic.

I'd be more concerned about warrantless domestic wiretapping buddy boy.

Anti-smoking is still anti-personal freedom. Just because someone else is doing something worse to subvert freedoms doesn't somehow make the creeping tobacco prohibition any more acceptable.

/Sand? In your vagina? etc.

WTF? You can smoke regular cigarettes in under a minute if you want.

Might cough like a biatch though, but hell that'll be habit in a while anyway.

USP .45:
Yes, we were due for another anti-freedom thread.

Anti-smoking fits the bill just as well as any other topic.

Look, almost nobody thinks you should be forced to stop smoking. We just don't want you to smoke where we can smell it or get 2nd-hand cancer from it. Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose, etc. If that means you have to stand in the cold outside your office, tough luck.

Occam's Chainsaw: One F Jef: USP .45: Yes, we were due for another anti-freedom thread.

Anti-smoking fits the bill just as well as any other topic.

I'd be more concerned about warrantless domestic wiretapping buddy boy.

Anti-smoking is still anti-personal freedom. Just because someone else is doing something worse to subvert freedoms doesn't somehow make the creeping tobacco prohibition any more acceptable.

/Sand? In your vagina? etc.

I wasn't talking to you captain obvious, I'm talking to commander freeper over there.

Maximum Leader: Off topic, but didn't Lucky Strike discontinue distribution of their their filtered cigarettes in the states not long ago?

Yup. You can get unfiltered and you can get light filters, but my precious, beautiful lucky filters are only available overseas. Ant they're a biatch to import.

gnobesav: Ahaha, as a non-smoker who occasionally gets the urge for nicotine when drinking, I wholeheartedy get a kick out of this reply.

It was pretty rad. Between sucking it down so quickly and not having had a smoke in about 10 hours it was the best head rush I've ever had.

One F Jef: USP .45: Yes, we were due for another anti-freedom thread.

Anti-smoking fits the bill just as well as any other topic.

I'd be more concerned about warrantless domestic wiretapping buddy boy.

Yeah, that sucks too.

Congratulations on giving money to some of the most evil corporations ever to stalk the face of the earth.

You let the Patriot Act go through, but get whiny about this.

Would have been nice to have the parents at the wedding, but I guess their personal freedoms won up. Well, those, plus the cancers.

No Such Agency: We just don't want you to smoke where we can smell it

Are we gonna pass a law against farting in public, too?

No Such Agency: Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose, etc.

Yeah, and your right to dictate what is or isn't allowed ends at your doorstep.

vat_man: You let the Patriot Act go through, but get whiny about this.

No, I complain loudly about both. Though I imagine this probably affects more people, albeit less egregiously.

vat_man: Would have been nice to have the parents at the wedding, but I guess their personal freedoms won up. Well, those, plus the cancers.

Your parent's bad choices don't justify taking that choice away from others.

I wish to subscribe to churchill24's newsletter. Even as someone who doesn't really want to smoke, and quits for years, nothing is worse than an anti-smoke nazi.

NIPPING

One F Jef: I wasn't talking to you captain obvious, I'm talking to commander freeper over there.

No, you were referring and responding to Commander Freeper, but you were "talking" to any and everyone who reads this board. That's the way it works. You want a private conversation? Then stop mentally masturbating in the digital equivalent of Grand Central Station.

Douchebag.

As an American in Spain, I can safely say that I will enjoy the bars more back home because I won´t have to worry about smelling like an ashtray after every goddamned night out. It´s interesting to be able to light up hash-spiked doobies in the bar, but I can´t smell a goddamned thing after two hours in a den of scum and villainy over here.

/Would prefer a smoking room like the Canadians have in their bars

... cold dead hands... whatever.

Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion comes true. Somebody gets rich making a shorter, faster burning cigarette that can be entirely smoked on a short break.

TheFatManCometh: No Such Agency: Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose, etc.

Yeah, and your right to dictate what is or isn't allowed ends at your doorstep.

FAIL

Really? You mean people have the right to walk around naked in public areas? Or play boomboxes at 200 decimals in the middle of the night? Or throw trash in the street? I never knew.

ciocia: Or play boomboxes at 200 decimals

That's a lot of decimals.

monty666: ciocia: Or play boomboxes at 200 decimals

That's a lot of decimals.

DECIBLES! Curses (slaps forehead).

ciocia: Really? You mean people have the right to walk around naked in public areas? Or play boomboxes at 200 decimals in the middle of the night? Or throw trash in the street? I never knew.

Naked in Public: no real compelling reason. Strike down decency laws.
Play boomboxes at 200 decibels: potentially dangerous. Your rights end where my ears begin.
Throw trash in the street: public health and safety. Violating the rights of others.

Occam's Chainsaw: ciocia: Really? You mean people have the right to walk around naked in public areas? Or play boomboxes at 200 decimals in the middle of the night? Or throw trash in the street? I never knew.


Play boomboxes at 200 decibels: potentially dangerous. Your rights end where my ears begin.
Throw trash in the street: public health and safety. Violating the rights of others.

Oh, please. Most boombox laws are in place not because it's dangerous (not if I'm in my house and they are in the street), but because it's a pain in the ass. It's more dangerous to my health to breath smoky air in a bar.

Chewing tobacco gets a bum rap as a disgusting practice, but it's actually a less-offensive nicotine delivery system.

/and you don't have to spit
//you can swallow, in very small amounts at a time

KerwoodDerby: Chewing tobacco gets a bum rap as a disgusting practice, but it's actually a less-offensive nicotine delivery system.

/and you don't have to spit
//you can swallow, in very small amounts at a time

And you are not getting anybody else to consume tobacco with you. VERY MUCH less offensive.

ciocia: Occam's Chainsaw: ciocia: Really? You mean people have the right to walk around naked in public areas? Or play boomboxes at 200 decimals in the middle of the night? Or throw trash in the street? I never knew.


Play boomboxes at 200 decibels: potentially dangerous. Your rights end where my ears begin.
Throw trash in the street: public health and safety. Violating the rights of others.

Oh, please. Most boombox laws are in place not because it's dangerous (not if I'm in my house and they are in the street), but because it's a pain in the ass. It's more dangerous to my health to breath smoky air in a bar.

You're the one who arbitrarily picked the 200 decibel number. Short exposure to that causes permanent hearing damage, and is potentially fatal.

Occam's Chainsaw: c

Oh, please. Most boombox laws are in place not because it's dangerous (not if I'm in my house and they are in the street), but because it's a pain in the ass. It's more dangerous to my health to breath smoky air in a bar.

You're the one who arbitrarily picked the 200 decibel number. Short exposure to that causes permanent hearing damage, and is potentially fatal.

Actually, that's my point. In many places, there is no decibel number, it's just "loud and annoying," (within certain times of the day) so it's not about health at all. It's public behavior that is regulated because it is deemed to be a pain in the ass. So please don't imply that there is no precedent for regulating public behavior, and that smokers are a uniquely oppressed group. Smoking in enclosed public places is in fact injurious to health AND a pain in the ass, and there is plenty of precedent for outlawing it.

Wulfhardt:

L.S./M.F.T.

This.

Found a place that sells Chesterfield Kings a few months ago. They edge out Luckies in my book.

ciocia: Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion comes true. Somebody gets rich making a shorter, faster burning cigarette that can be entirely smoked on a short break.

ahhh, I came in here for that Heather Mooney

Oh, screw off. We'll smoke ourselves into glorious cancerous balls of goo if that's what we *want* to do. Also, you will foot my medical bills and stfu about it.

/about time smokers got some convenience
/enclosed smoking helmet with built-in air filter would be nice

And for the people talking about second-hand smoke: yes, it does increase your cancer risk if you're around it a lot. Key words: a lot. A couple of hours in a smoking-allowed bar will do a lot more damage to your liver than your lungs.

Yesdog:

I don't smoke (never have)*, but as an adult I should be able to do whatever I want to my own body

Perhaps you can't see through the smug, but the point is to keep you from doing it to anybody else's body.

ciocia: DECIBLES! Curses

Christ only had 12 Decibles.

It still befuddles me that poison like this (twice as strong, but not half as long)is legal, yet I can't smoke a joint without risking arrest . . . I love this country, but our government still sucks a fatty

//that's right, I initiated the "legalize it" thread action
//doesn't poison his lungs with anything that doesn't at least get him high
//420

That idea is so wrong in so many ways. I fight the urge to smoke every day ( down to about 4 or 5 a day). I feel like the urge will never go away. Very depressing.

/didn't smoke for over 13 years or so. Started again 2 years ago. I'm such an ass hole.

//if you don't smoke, please, don't start.

Global Warming does benefit big business. Forces them to adapt and come up with new products for people to buy.

*RANT*
While I would never encourage anyone to start smoking, I don't think this shiat is right. (I currently smoke a pack and a half a day) I love my smoking, and no one should be able to take that right away from me. What I want to do to my own damn body is my business, not yours. The "WE HATE ALL SMOKERS" type of people should DIAF, and leave us the hell alone. I don't go around offering every non-smoker I meet a cigarette, so I can't be infringing on you in any way.

\*wheeze*
\\*END-RANT*

As per LeglessDog, I totally agree my friend. There is no way that cigarettes should be legal, and dope not. It's such a laughable matter. In fact, it chokes me right the hell up. I can't smoke a reefer (1 a day, maybe less), but I can pour government backed jet fuel and embalming fluid right down the old tubes.

Churchill2004: And for the people talking about second-hand smoke: yes, it does increase your cancer risk if you're around it a lot. Key words: a lot. A couple of hours in a smoking-allowed bar will do a lot more damage to your liver than your lungs.

Yeah, for something longer term, but not if you have allergies or asthma. Or functioning olfactory nerves.

I'm all about having somewhere convenient for smokers, if only because maybe it means pedestrians won't have to get a second-hand nicotine buzz walking in and out of office building doorways. I even think that the latest rounds of cig taxes are usurous -- because many of the people who might be more able to afford them have stop-smoking programs through work, so it ends up being a regressive tax.

Ideally? There should be rooms with little circulation where people can go to smoke, with an interim airlock where they're defumified, and then the exit to the outside.

In other news, the husband just quit smoking. Very proud of him, don't say it enough. We're just not sure about where we'll find lighters for candles and incense anymore.

Oh, the disadvantages Link (new window)

Anyone remember this???