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wejash [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 12:20:56 AM  
Insulting the press in the spin room five days before >40% of the delegates are selected.

Yes, that's a brilliant media strategy. Brilliant, I say. Keep them on their toes. Make them dance, and beg for some face time with the candidate.

Mandy, got your resume out yet?

 
Delawheredad 2008-02-02 12:29:35 AM  
What a surprise that the most frigid, most unapproachable campaign is hers.

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 12:38:05 AM  
This is almost as important as the "ZOMG Barack snubbed Hillary at the SOTU!!!1!!" story of the past few days.

 
Bill Frist 2008-02-02 12:50:10 AM  
Even her surrogates suck.

The Clinton machine needs to be blown up.

 
Dread Pirate Slasher 2008-02-02 12:58:55 AM  
Hillary getting the nomination = Republican president this time next year.

 
Bill Frist 2008-02-02 02:09:27 AM  


Dread Pirate Slasher [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-02 12:58:55 AM
Hillary getting the nomination = Republican president this time next year.


Or not that , certainly a Republican congress in 2010.

 
profanecleric 2008-02-02 02:16:35 AM  
Wow. I guess it takes a whole new level of asshattery to work on She Who Must Not Be Named's campaign.

 
Doran 2008-02-02 02:17:33 AM  
FTA: When I continued to act dumbfounded, she grudgingly relented. "I knew you were going to take it personally and think it terribly rude,"

Nice observance there. You know, it takes the mind of a monkey to realize that insulting a person might make them, oh, I don't know, insulted? "Think" it terribly rude? I think we may have graduated to "stupid" there.

You know, Ms. Grunwald, for a media "strategist", you know nothing about media strategy. And if Clinton has any brains, she'll fire you quietly and as quickly before Super Tuesday as she can.

 
captainktainer 2008-02-02 02:18:53 AM  
Wow. That's serious douchebaggery right there.

 
Jeff_from_MD 2008-02-02 02:19:07 AM  
What a surprise that the most frigid, most unapproachable campaign is hers.

to be fair at least she was up front about it and still responded anyway, instead of corralling off all who didn't toe the party line and insult their intelligence by claiming they got to be in a "free speech zone!!"

 
TheEvilOne23 2008-02-02 02:25:58 AM  
Hmm look at who wrote the article. Someone who is actually seen with republitards all the time. I don't believe this story. Wow, the republicans are REALLY scared, I mean, what, with introducing far out bs stories this early LOL.

 
boomaze 2008-02-02 02:27:28 AM  
I hate Hillary, but who gives a fark? So they don't talk to the foreign press first. Big goddamned deal. You guys need to get some Midol for your pussies. Seriously.

 
Chaussman 2008-02-02 02:44:43 AM  
AIDE.

 
Killer Miller 2008-02-02 02:44:57 AM  
Hillary Clinton says all the time that her presidency will restore are image around the world. She campaigns on it. This is why her campaign's treatment of the foreign press has some relevance.

 
Killer Miller 2008-02-02 02:46:19 AM  
Killer Miller: Hillary Clinton says all the time that her presidency will restore are our image around the world. She campaigns on it. This is why her campaign's treatment of the foreign press has some relevance.

Fixed.

 
El_Dan 2008-02-02 02:47:56 AM  
Nothing new here. Clinton is known for the same campaigning practices, such as abusing journalists, that Bush was. Sadly, most Democrats are stupid enough to vote for her.

 
One F Jef 2008-02-02 03:03:10 AM  
You shut your whore mouth when Americans are talking.

 
Jim_Callahan 2008-02-02 03:05:22 AM  
Someone who only speaks to Americans is probably not a good choice for executive office. Though I'm sure Canada, Brazil et al. would appreciate that.

 
quatchi 2008-02-02 03:21:19 AM  
FTFA: I spluttered something about people clicking on internet stories. "Mmm, not so much - I'll take his first," Ms Grunwald responded.

Snubbing the UK reporter by saying effectively "You don't count"?

ClintCo's massive, merciless machine rolls over the journo like that head chopping thingy in Caligula, only less subtle.

Snubbing a Brit is rarely considered good form, especially them armed with pens and such.

A non-story? Perhaps not on the surface, but as an indicator of Hillary as a bit ruthless and, dare one sat it, politically naive? It is particularily instructive in that regard.

Saying "we can talk later" woulda been one thing but "We don't talk..."?

Yeah, that aint news./snark>

Maybe Hil just thinks "No ink is bad ink" or maybe she wasn't thinking or was over thinking.

No matter how thin you slice it it reeks of FAIL.

 
SharkUW 2008-02-02 03:28:37 AM  
Doran: FTA: When I continued to act dumbfounded, she grudgingly relented. "I knew you were going to take it personally and think it terribly rude,"

Nice observance there. You know, it takes the mind of a monkey to realize that insulting a person might make them, oh, I don't know, insulted? "Think" it terribly rude? I think we may have graduated to "stupid" there.

You know, Ms. Grunwald, for a media "strategist", you know nothing about media strategy. And if Clinton has any brains, she'll fire you quietly and as quickly before Super Tuesday as she can.


As retarded of a policy as this might appear to anybody with an intelligence...The majority of American voters are complete idiots. The strategy is perfect.

 
sentient_being 2008-02-02 03:43:41 AM  
SharkUW

As retarded of a policy as this might appear to anybody with an intelligence...The majority of American voters are complete idiots. The strategy is perfect.

Seeing as how Hillary's going to lose if nominated, it's far from "perfect" IMO. Of course, if you mean perfect in a sense of keeping the Democrat tradition of losing by doing the only thing that could possibly cause you to lose alive, then yes, it is perfect.

 
Sir Cumference the Flatulent [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 03:52:08 AM  
Bill Frist: The Clinton/Bush machine needs to be blown up.

Fixed.

People don't realize that they're on the same side...and it's not our side.

 
ilambiquated 2008-02-02 04:09:43 AM  
Journalist tries to ask a Clinton aid a question and violates her "I only speak to Americans rule"

Refers to the aide, no to Clinton.

Like most of these attack posts, it is a lie. In this case a special kind of lie called "equivocation".
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Wake up America, you are being lied to.

 
Anarchangel 2008-02-02 04:49:27 AM  
No to Clinton. No to Bush.

/keep it as a mandate for all future elections, and we've got ourselves a hell of a start.

 
Anarchangel 2008-02-02 04:52:57 AM  
profanecleric: Wow. I guess it takes a whole new level of asshattery to work on She Who Must Not Be Named's campaign.

That works. Anybody see that shiatfest known as "The Village"? We should adopt the policy used by the residents there, and from this point on, simply refer to any member of the Bush or Clinton families as "Those We Don't Speak Of."

It'd be great. Try it.

 
Friction8r 2008-02-02 05:01:54 AM  
Hillary is both more articulate and more shallow than many farkers! I gotz skilz at profundity.

 
Glenechocreek 2008-02-02 06:01:36 AM  
It's baaack.

kidologist.com

 
Facetious_Speciest 2008-02-02 07:16:27 AM  
Good thing this is an isolated event.

 
oryx 2008-02-02 08:24:35 AM  
Clinton aid aide. A Clinton aid would be some sort of device.

/Sorry, pet peeve

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-02-02 08:33:13 AM  
The Hillary campaign got no time for feriners... got it.

 
for good or for awesome 2008-02-02 08:55:28 AM  
ilambiquated:

Like most of these attack posts, it is a lie. In this case a special kind of lie called "equivocation".


Yes but it shows she has a dumbass working for her. And that does reflect poorly upon her.

 
Shrugging Atlas 2008-02-02 09:21:51 AM  
Here's a positive to the Bush presidency: We as Americans are largely used to xenophobic asshattery from our President and his/her minions. At least it won't come as much of a shock to us if Clinton wins.

 
Stupid Floppy Clownshoes 2008-02-02 09:23:06 AM  
WTF is a Clinton aid? Sounds like an over-the-counter hemorrhoid cream.

 
Sultan Of Herf 2008-02-02 09:33:12 AM  
Glenechocreek: It's baaack.

man, Chelsea is lookin old...

 
Jennifer 2008-02-02 09:33:59 AM  
Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Bill Frist: The Clinton/Bush machine needs to be blown up.

Fixed.

People don't realize that they're on the same side...and it's not our side.


Obama would disagree with you

 
dervish16108 2008-02-02 09:34:03 AM  
And that is just the chilling epitome of what Clinton II's foreign policy shall be.

 
swahnhennessy 2008-02-02 09:43:47 AM  
Stupid Floppy Clownshoes: WTF is a Clinton aid?

A cigar.

While I can understand the campaign wanting to get its message to domestic sources, it just looks really bad to be so bald-faced about it.

 
Jennifer 2008-02-02 09:44:58 AM  
dervish16108: And that is just the chilling epitome of what Clinton II's foreign policy shall be.

Sigh.......The Clinton administration came closer to a peace deal in the mid east than any previous or subsequent. The worldview under the Clintons was of a general high regard. Clinton's foundation is still working hard every day to achieve peace and work on behalf of the poor overseas.....kinda like Carter's habitat for humanity on a global scale.......

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-02-02 09:48:38 AM  
Jennifer: dervish16108: And that is just the chilling epitome of what Clinton II's foreign policy shall be.

Sigh.......The Clinton administration came closer to a peace deal in the mid east than any previous or subsequent. The worldview under the Clintons was of a general high regard. Clinton's foundation is still working hard every day to achieve peace and work on behalf of the poor overseas.....kinda like Carter's habitat for humanity on a global scale.......


Yeah, that Clinton would be Bill Clinton. Last that I checked, he isn't running for office this time.

 
bigforearms 2008-02-02 10:00:25 AM  
This has nothing to do with foreign policy. This has to do with winning an American election. The British press isn't going to have more than the tiniest effect on the U.S. voting populace, so spending her very limited time on the British press wastes time she could be spending doing her job--getting her candidate elected.

This woman's only mistake is in telling the guy the truth when she should have more tactfully brushed him off. I would be farking shocked if all of the candidates media folks don't have explicit instructions to ignore press that won't get votes.

 
Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 10:04:15 AM  
Ace Frehley's Ghost:
Yeah, that Clinton would be Bill Clinton. Last that I checked, he isn't running for office this time.


Leadership like radioactivity -- the closer you are to a President, the more Presidential you become.

Which is why I'm voting Nameless Intern #3 for President.

 
xobyte 2008-02-02 10:23:25 AM  

 
Stupid Floppy Clownshoes 2008-02-02 10:27:32 AM  
swahnhennessy: A cigar.

Zingo!

On a somewhat related note, my in-laws in Wales are very interested in our presidential race. And it only seems right that a British journalist should want to ask the kind of questions his or her readers might like to see answered. Now whether or not that candidate's media relations person wants to talk with the journalist or not is entirely up to them. But if it's a matter of the aide's policy to not talk to non-American press, well, that's just stupid.

 
wildcardjack 2008-02-02 10:38:51 AM  
I wonder if this person only counts people with notable accents, or if the aide also knows how many american journalists are loonies.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 10:39:15 AM  
If you want open and transparent government, vote Obama.

If you want expert propagandists who wrote the book on "staying on message" while manipulating the media, you may want to consider a Clinton.

 
DrRatchet [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 10:44:54 AM  
ilambiquated: Journalist tries to ask a Clinton aid a question and violates her "I only speak to Americans rule"

Refers to the aide, no to Clinton.

Like most of these attack posts, it is a lie. In this case a special kind of lie called "equivocation".

Wake up America, you are being lied to.


When you elect a president, you also elect a cabinet and a group of aids and advisers. Only you don't know who they are. You have to trust that the President will choose wisely.

Clinton's choice of campaign aids and advisers reflects on her ability to choose her Vice President, cabinet, aids, advisers, judges, etc. Her choice of a clueless and mean-spirited media strategist suggest that she will appoint other clueless and mean-spirited people to important posts, and we really don't need another Rumsfeld or Cheney or "helluva job" brownie, or Karl Rove. We've tried Clueless and Mean. Clueless and Mean got us $3.00 oil and a shrinking economy and endless war.

We need a President who can choose his or her people wisely. Clinton (both Clintons, really) has shown she cannot.

 
Jennifer 2008-02-02 10:48:39 AM  
Ace Frehley's Ghost: Jennifer: dervish16108: And that is just the chilling epitome of what Clinton II's foreign policy shall be.

Sigh.......The Clinton administration came closer to a peace deal in the mid east than any previous or subsequent. The worldview under the Clintons was of a general high regard. Clinton's foundation is still working hard every day to achieve peace and work on behalf of the poor overseas.....kinda like Carter's habitat for humanity on a global scale.......

Yeah, that Clinton would be Bill Clinton. Last that I checked, he isn't running for office this time.


Ok so its more appropriate to base an assumption on foreign policy from a campaign aids isolated behavior than from bill Clinton's eight year plus record who just happens to be the canidates husband. Ok sure then...I really see your logic there

 
DrRatchet [TotalFark] 2008-02-02 10:57:18 AM  
Jennifer:
Ok so its more appropriate to base an assumption on foreign policy from a campaign aids isolated behavior than from bill Clinton's eight year plus record who just happens to be the canidates husband. Ok sure then...I really see your logic there


Yes, it is more appropriate. Hillary appointed her aid. She did not appoint her husband. If she becomes president, Hillary will appoint more aids, judges, and cabinet members. She will need to choose wisely. She is showing that she cannot choose her people wisely.

And as Facetious_Speciest pointed out, this was not isolated behavior

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-02-02 11:00:07 AM  
Jennifer: Ok so its more appropriate to base an assumption on foreign policy from a campaign aids isolated behavior than from bill Clinton's eight year plus record who just happens to be the canidates husband. Ok sure then...I really see your logic there

Her campaign, whether you like it or not, is a reflection of Hillary. Bill is a talking head at this point; this is Hillary's show. If this were an isolated incident, yeah it could be written off as an aide with a stick up her nether regions. It wasn't an isolated incident.

You've made it abundently clear that you are voting for Hillary because you want Bill part II. Assuming that she gets the nomination and doesn't get massacred in the fall by the daily mounting anti-Hillary sentiment, you will find out that this isn't going to be Bill part II. This is going to be Hillary.

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-02-02 11:02:25 AM  
DrRatchet: Jennifer:
Ok so its more appropriate to base an assumption on foreign policy from a campaign aids isolated behavior than from bill Clinton's eight year plus record who just happens to be the canidates husband. Ok sure then...I really see your logic there

Yes, it is more appropriate. Hillary appointed her aid. She did not appoint her husband. If she becomes president, Hillary will appoint more aids, judges, and cabinet members. She will need to choose wisely. She is showing that she cannot choose her people wisely.

And as Facetious_Speciest pointed out, this was not isolated behavior


DAMN YOU DrRatchet!

 
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