Getting a little desperate I see...

Good grief...

NCLB was a brilliant plan.

That Congress completely ruined, and then failed to fund. Ted Kennedy, for all his faults, is absolutly a champion for education in this country.

Shut up Clintons.

what's funny is that Kennedy was a big part of getting Bill nominated all those years back.

Getting a little desperate I see...

Getting?

Didn't Ted also introduce Monica to Bill?

Didn't Ted also introduce Mary Jo to the channel?

Democrats don't know who to vote for, the Borg Queen or the Magic Marxist.

I just think it's funny the Left Party is throwing up a rich white woman and a black man for the run at POTUS. What shall the cracker base do? The only white guy got tossed.

Approximate misquote from MSNBC video earlier today:

"This is an unintended train wreck. Everybody from (some Republican) to Ted Kennedy, and everybody in between, voted for it. Unfortunately they didn't talk to enough teachers, first."

Subby belongs on USENET.

yo mods, greenlight this thing!

This About That 2008-02-01 05:38:28 PM
Approximate misquote from MSNBC video earlier today:

"This is an unintended train wreck. Everybody from (some Republican) to Ted Kennedy, and everybody in between, voted for it. Unfortunately they didn't talk to enough teachers, first."

If you RTFA you'd notice they are talking about a different thing than you are. You are talking about what he said yesterday, not what he said today.

GaryPDX: I just think it's funny the Left Party is throwing up a rich white woman and a black man for the run at POTUS. What shall the cracker base do? The only white guy got tossed.

Apparently you haven't been in all the threads wherein a Farker has raised $5000 for Obama in the past week?

/we're so confused!! what're we gonna DO!?!?

Look, Obama knows how to sip sizzurp while tipping on four-fours. Obama knows how to slam dunk basketballs. He will bring this kind of unique experience to the whtie house.

/I'm parodying Hillary there
// Her "I know what it is like to have a baby sitter cancel on you. I know what it is like to breastfeed." speech

what_now: Ted Kennedy, for all his faults, is absolutly a champion for education....

Thank a teecher.

GaryPDX: Marxist

keep using that word, yadda yadda yadda, not know what it means, yadda yadda yadda.

this is all fallout from that LBJ comment.

at the time everyone was so concerned about whether it was belittling to martin luther king, they didn't think about the notion that it was pretty belittling to JFK. Teddy was piiiiiiiiiissed about that statement.

Bill Clinton slamming Ted Kennedy is a mental image I really could have done without.

The Kennedy endorsement of Obama engenders some nasty blowback?

There's no blowback like Clinton blowback. Ask Monica.

Garypdx thinks Obama is a Marxist? A Groucho Marxist or a Chico Marxist? Be specific man!

Quatchi thinks Gary is a Skid Marxist.

Wondering if Gary is fan of the guy in the magic undies who's trying to buy the presidency or the Slim Pickens lookalike who wants the ME to get off his lawn? Hopefully, not the evolution denying Christo-fascist at any rate.

I'm sure Teddy was waiting to back Obama for a logn time. Nothing to do with MLK comments.

The Kennedys have always been part of the heart and soul of the dem party. The Clintons have always been part of the corporatist wing. The two have never fully gotten along.

I bet the only person Bill isn't slamming is Hillary.

// I'll be here all weekend.

Does this mean Wyld Stallyns is breaking up?

SilentStrider: GaryPDX: Marxist

keep using that word, yadda yadda yadda, not know what it means, yadda yadda yadda.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." That sounds alot like Obama's tax the evil rich and give it to the poor.

Obama was enamored by his Marxist professors in college. He talks all about it in his first book. Maybe you should read it?

BravadoGT:

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." That sounds alot like Obama's tax the evil rich and give it to the poor.

Obama was enamored by his Marxist professors in college. He talks all about it in his first book. Maybe you should read it?

I WON'T BE HAPPY UNTIL THERE IS A TOLL BOOTH AT THE END OF YOUR DRIVE WAY! FARKING COMMIE PINKO LIBERAL *FROTH* *FOAM* *SPIT*

/FTFY

So? Can't people realize the err of their ways and change?

If they make it for the better, I've always been willing to give them a thumbs-up.

Clinton's were the ones that implemented Don't ask don't tell. But Clinton said it fine: "Those were different times. We made a mistake, it's run it's course. It's time to revoke it."

dholway: what_now: Ted Kennedy, for all his faults, is absolutly a champion for education....

Thank a teecher.

hey, it could have been an alcohol ad.

HotWingConspiracy: Does this mean Wyld Stallyns is breaking up?

Thank you for not disappointing me.

DarnoKonrad: BravadoGT:

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." That sounds alot like Obama's tax the evil rich and give it to the poor.

Obama was enamored by his Marxist professors in college. He talks all about it in his first book. Maybe you should read it?

I WON'T BE HAPPY UNTIL THERE IS A TOLL BOOTH AT THE END OF YOUR DRIVE WAY! FARKING COMMIE PINKO LIBERAL *FROTH* *FOAM* *SPIT*

/FTFY

You're quite the intellectual powerhouse, aren't you?

Here's a nice article from The Huff from a Obama SUPPORTER, praising the Marxist style of his speechifying....

The Souls of Ordinary Folk: Obama, Hope, and the Promise of Utopia

Posted January 7, 2008 | 06:22 PM (EST)
Surely Barack Obama's victory speech in Iowa will go down as one of the most inspiring moments in recent political history. I have to admit, he even managed to make a believer out of me.

I think what is truly fascinating here is the degree to which Obama stands poised to "unite" the American public in a way that no politician has since Bobby Kennedy. As has now been commented upon on 1,000 web-blogs and podcasts, Obama's victory in Iowa is truly a monumental event. Though cynics will surely mention that the last three presidents did not win Iowa (Bush II, Clinton I, and Reagan), the fact remains that for an African American man to win in a rural, Midwestern state that is 95 percent white cannot be overestimated.

While Clinton has attempted to appeal to the mind (rationale), Obama appeals to the soul (hope). In many ways this election will come down to a battle of emotions, of how the candidates will play with a rhetoric of hope and political futurity.

Listening to Obama, I'm actually reminded of the writings of many mid-twentieth century Frankfurt school Marxist philosophers, particularly the work of Ernst Bloch and Theodero Adorno. In fact, Obama's entire political ideology is thematic zed in the title of one of Bloch's most profound volumes, The Principle of Hope. Bloch's notion of hope as an indexation of what he called a politics of the "not-yet-here" resonates deeply with much of Obama's rhetoric. We can hear the traces of this earlier Marxist tradition when Obama makes comments such as "hope...is all those men and women who are not content to settle on the world as it is, [but instead] who have the courage to remake the world as it should be."

Jose Esteban Munoz, a "queer studies" scholar known in academic circles for his 1999 book, Disidentifications, is actually finishing up a book of the political utility of queer hope (entitled Cruising Utopia: The Politics and Performance of Queer Futurity, forthcoming from NYU Press). Strangely this all relates to Obama's politics.

As Munoz argues in his Cruising Utopia, invocations of "hope" and "utopia" are often dismissed as simply political naivety, however there is actually long history of revolutionary social movements that turned to "hope" as a means of effecting immediate political change. What I love about Obama is that his message of "hope" is not an attempt to obscure the stark material conditions of inequality which structure our present American life, but rather is a message of how we might embrace the future as something that begins now, not later.

Within this formulation, "utopia" is not, as some might quickly assume, a simple rush toward Xanadu or some rainbow-colored never-never land, but rather a fiercely political and bitter critique of the present. Obama suddenly becomes a modern day CLR James. On a side note, Clinton needs to knock Obama in New Hampshire in order to avoid serious trouble. Following New Hampshire the next major caucus state is South Carolina on January 26, a region with a substantial African American vote. Up until now, the black vote has been split between Clinton and Obama primarily because African American voters have been reluctant to back Obama because there has been concern about his actual electability (i.e. "Is it really possible for a black man to win the U.S. presidency?").

The results of Iowa respond with a screaming, booming "yes."

Let's see what the (near) future holds. I'm "hoping" for the best.

Link (new window)

BravadoGT: Here's a nice article from The Huff from a Obama SUPPORTER, praising the Marxist style of his speechifying....

OMFG Obama got compared to a Marxist!

If a blogger with a degree in english says it, you can't argue with that proof!

BravadoGT: Link (new window)

Wow, Obama and Marx both shared hopeful rhetoric. Who cares. I can tell Obama-bashers are getting desperate when this is what they have on him.

hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-01 07:41:56 PM
BravadoGT: Here's a nice article from The Huff from a Obama SUPPORTER, praising the Marxist style of his speechifying....

OMFG Obama got compared to a Marxist!


Not to mention that "marxist" in the sense of the Frankfurt school (what the article mentioned) is WAY different than Marxist as in what Bravado wants it to mean.

Echoic [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-01 07:43:15 PM
BravadoGT: Link (new window)

Wow, Obama and Marx both shared hopeful rhetoric.

You know who else shared hopeful rhetoric....


Reagan!

/and Hitler
// also Godwin

quatchi: There's no blowback like Clinton blowback. Ask Monica.

I don't think she got a blow back, just a cigar up the cooch.

Um, so far I haven't heard anything in the way of utopianism from Obama and if uplifting speeches are an indication of Marxism then I guess he learned first-hand from that old Bolshevik Ronald Reagan.

A perfect non-story; BillHill reaching out to try and take an indirect swipe at Obama.

Just another reason to hope for Barack Obama in the White House.

/Yes We Can

Bill Frist: Obama knows how to slam dunk basketballs.

You say that as a joke, but I'm sure he can. His sport in college was apparently basketball, he was on the primary school team, whatever it's called. Varsity?

There's a video of him making a 3-point shot in one try at a campaign stop at a school on the internet somewhere. It leads into a lecture about his plans re:education in illinois, but still, fairly impressive.

GaryPDX: I just think it's funny the Left Party is throwing up a rich white woman and a black man for the run at POTUS. What shall the cracker base do? The only white guy got tossed.

Apparently, you have a low opinion of white men.

/O8bama

Jim_Callahan: There's a video of him making a 3-point shot in one try at a campaign stop at a school on the internet somewhere. It leads into a lecture about his plans re:education in illinois, but still, fairly impressive.

I personally think there should be a Democrats vs. Republicans basketball game yearly.

AkaDad: GaryPDX: I just think it's funny the Left Party is throwing up a rich white woman and a black man for the run at POTUS. What shall the cracker base do? The only white guy got tossed.

Apparently, you have a low opinion of white men.

/O8bama

Its funny, watching people like GaryPDX come unscrewed when there isn't a white guy running for president.

dholway: what_now: Ted Kennedy, for all his faults, is absolutly a champion for education....

Thank a teecher.

I think the misspelling was actually a nod towards Teddy's favorite beverage.

Senile people are so cute. They think they matter.

Since when did GaryPDX became the new Afternoon_Delight?

With one simple statement Teddy could make this blow up in Hillary's face.

"I am not running for President. But Hilary is. If you think it was such a bad idea, why don't you ask her why she voted for it?"

If he keeps replying WHY DID HILARY VOTE FOR IT? long enough, surely that will get some traction, even on the Clinton News Network

/disgusted at how they let her dominate the debate [volume wise, not substantively]
/08ama!

SeismicJizzer: Since when did GaryPDX became the new Afternoon_Delight?

Some of the time he's actually very intelligent and ok to talk to, but as Obama has been gaining so much traction lately, (and he wants to take Gary's guns away, apparently) he has been lashing out more. It's unfortunate too. Oh well, gotta have a few trolls in every thread.

GaryPDX: Democrats don't know who to vote for, the Borg Queen or the Magic Marxist.

I just think it's funny the Left Party is throwing up a rich white woman and a black man for the run at POTUS. What shall the cracker base do? The only white guy got tossed.

Poor, poor GaryPDX. Nobody wants your excess sludge "bio-fuel," so now you have to drink it.

/you should have left the deep-fryer grease at the restaurant, dude

Bill Frist: yo mods, greenlight this thing!

You're on a roll, aren't you?

Enjoy it. What runs hot can get very cold indeed.

It's not Hillary's fault. She tries to pander to as many people as she can, but they keep changing their opinion. How is a candidate who runs on polling and focus groups supposed to get a break?

doyner [TotalFark] Quote 2008-02-01 08:46:43 PM
Bill Frist: yo mods, greenlight this thing!

You're on a roll, aren't you?

Enjoy it. What runs hot can get very cold indeed.

True, although not everything I ask to get green is something I submitted

ya know it seems to me that the clintons are going to piss off everybody

i mean, when you can't even hold your breath when your good friend sides with somebody else, and take the dignified approach, but instead lash out in an immature fashion

what should i take from what you say and "hold faith" in it?

They should settle their dispute with a pie eating contest.