And nowadays it would just be called "03:34"

They were so farked up. Woo HOO for our generation! We we were drugged up retards. Yay! Oh, and we made some classical rock, but mostly farked up. Yay!

phlegmmo: They were so farked up. Woo HOO for our generation! We we were drugged up retards. Yay! Oh, and we made some classical rock, but mostly farked up. Yay!

Trust me, it wasn't that important.

Chicago ... Terry Kath

blah blah blah

... if it weren't for the Cheese Years (post-Kath Cetera-centric years) they'd be in the R&R Hall of Fame/

IMO this is their best song. I'm young but every time I hear this song it sounds awesome.

25 or 624

/get it?

Best horn work, yes, but Cetera not the best Chicago.

the same exact descending chord sequence can be heard in Green Day's "Brain Stew"

I'm partial to Make Me Smile and Saturday in the Park... but nothin' beats a song about goin' blotto.

Played this in 5th grade band. We weren't this good.

If you pretend the band broke up about 4-5 years later and weren't still limping along 30 years later playing Casinos and airport Hiltons it makes it all easier to handle.

I never knew what the title meant. Hooray intertron!

I'm going to have to go with 6 to 4. I'm not at all comfortable with 25, thanks.

binky the doormat: 25 or 624

/get it?

Nope. Do you?

DarthBrooks got it. The title refers to the time, and the song is actually about writing a song.

I always thought "25 or 6 to 4" sounded very similar to Led Zep's "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You," which I believe preceded it by a few months. Anyone else hear the similarity?

rocinante721: Chicago ... Terry Kath... if it weren't for the Cheese Years (post-Kath Cetera-centric years) they'd be in the R&R Hall of Fame/

Yes and no. Kath was one of many musicians of the era who died way too early. Chicago did become the ballad machine shortly after he left but some of the blame for that has to go to the execs who wanted the band to keep making them. I do wonder where the band would've gone if Kath had stayed alive and kept contributing his guitar work.

But I've heard Chicago's not in the hall because of a grudge held by Jann Wenner, was it?

1) There were some TV shows that were Chicago specials that I watched back in the 70s. I'd love to find those things. It was circa Chicago VII I believe.

2) Sweaty, really performed rock is the best. Look at them really working at that song!

3) This is post Kath. All downhill from here, dammit.

4) All songs that are meta-analysis smack of Robert Lamm. Writing songs = 25 or 6 to 4. Sitting and watching people = Saturday in the Park. It's a fun game!

Chicago V = Best album, easily.

OK, it's still a theory but here it goes:

25 or 624 (new window)

The UW (Wisconsin) marching band always used to play this at Badger football games.

I found out it was a Chicago song like 5 years ago.

I wonder if the singer had a sore throat or sumthin. He looks like he's in pain when He sings.

PopeoftheFCOTB: I do wonder where the band would've gone if Kath had stayed alive and kept contributing his guitar work.

If the band had kept on pushing that ballady crap onto their albums I'm sure he would have gone solo and that would have been interesting.

/side note, Kath was one of Hendrix's favorite guitarists

pipco: I wonder if the singer had a sore throat or sumthin. He looks like he's in pain when He sings.

He grimices like that because he sang with a broken/wired shut jaw early in his career and the style kinda stuck.

I'm sorry, subby, but Chicago really wasn't the same after Terry passed. I still have a hard time watching anyone try to replace him.

30 years ago 2 weeks ago. sigh.

/and don't get me started on the pillow biter they replaced Cetera with

I clicked for the bad ass guitar solo in the song. I wasn't disappointed.

This is might sound trollworthy, but I'm serious.

There were a couple decent tracks on Chicago XXX
and "Come to me often" sounded as if it was being sung by Kath.

/understands this thread is a day old
//ducks anyway

I have Chicago XXX, too. Not bad!

Kath died in Jan. 78

CHICAGO RULES!

NEEDS MORE COWBELL!

Chicago: I'm a Man, 1969

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwSX3W1ZwQg

/kath rip

Trombone players shouldn't go shirtless. Ever.

artman

Thanks! That's a great clip.

25 or 6 to 4 = 3:25 or 3:26 to 4:00 when they were writing the song...at least from what I have read about the song.

DarthBrooks

More likely 15:34 or maybe even 15:34:30.

JeffTL: DarthBrooks

More likely 15:34 or maybe even 15:34:30.

FAIL

"Waiting for the break of day..."

dmax

Gah, I should have remembered that! Thanks for the reminder.

Chicago Transit Authority: I'm a Man, 1969

nice!

pipco: I wonder if the singer had a sore throat or sumthin. He looks like he's in pain when He sings.

That_Bob_Guy: He grimices like that because he sang with a broken/wired shut jaw early in his career and the style kinda stuck.

It's also the look of a guy who discovers his top notes are gone, as everyone watches; worse, it's one of the most anticipated songs in the repertoire.