Well... it lasted 141 years.

Geez! Start one little fire and the neighbours get all uppity!

What the hell? Nothing has changed then really

will have to show proof of citizenship - a passport, trusted traveler card or a birth certificate and government-issued ID such as a driver's license.

I thought it was supposed to be you had to have a passport as of Jan 1 2008. I was asked for my birth cert and a government ID earlier last year when I crossed.

SoothinglyDeranged: you had to have a passport as of Jan 1 2008

If flying: passport since Jan 23rd, 2007

If land or sea: two pieces ID, one being photo-ID as of Jan 31st, 2008

Prior to then, if by land, no ID required. (Verbal declaration was sufficient, but they normally insisted on one piece of photo ID)

oldfarthenry: Geez! Start one little fire and the neighbours get all uppity!

At least they ate the dinner set out before burning it down.

To be fair, they did burn down the Upper Canada Parliament buildings first in York.

... of course they did that because the powder magazine at Fort York was blown up killing General Pike (of Pike's Peak fame)who was much loved by his men.

OlafTheBent: who was much loved by his men.



?


/and I bet you thought I would go for Pike Peak'd Peener joke or something

peck: If land or sea: two pieces ID, one being photo-ID as of Jan 31st, 2008

Prior to then, if by land, no ID required. (Verbal declaration was sufficient, but they normally insisted on one piece of photo ID)

Well aware of the flying part. As for the land and sea, the border guards tell a rather different tune. Canadian and American.

SoothinglyDeranged: the border guards tell a rather different tune

Technically, they (Canadian guards) have authority to allow or deny entirely on their own judgement. (Not sure if the US ones do).

Until recently, people in border towns known to the border guards would use "verbal oaths" to pass. ie. "Hey Frank, going into town to get some stuff" "Sure Bob, have a nice day."

Of course, if they don't personally know you, they can ask for anything. What are they going to do if you challenge them? You ain't crossing.

Thank FSM, those Canadians scare me. Now I feel all safe.

Floppy headed liars.

In North Dakota, officials at the Pembina port of entry reported only one vehicle

That's a busy day for North Dakota.

Poutine has been outlawed?

/DNRTFA

oldfarthenry:
I live down the street from that!!! still protecting us from the American's, only during the summer though.

we want you to feel all safe ... please feel safe.

/continue planning for 'stage 2' now my fellow hosers ...
//the time is almost nigh, eh?
///evil laugh.

linc654: we want you to feel all safe ... please feel safe.

/continue planning for 'stage 2' now my fellow hosers ...
//the time is almost nigh, eh?
///evil laugh.

See? See? THIS is what we need rail guns for!!!!

FTFA:Bruce Poulin, a salesman from Rollinsford, N.H., knew about the changes were coming and had a birth certificate with him.

English grammar called. It wants it's dignity back.

More "lulled into a false sense of security."

/won't be satisfied until they deport sleeper agents like Alex Trebeck

fark_your_mudder: Poutine has been outlawed?

/DNRTFA

Wait, that means I have to get my poutine on the black market?

Worth it! Loves me some poutine.

ismeldan: FTFA:Bruce Poulin, a salesman from Rollinsford, N.H., knew about the changes were coming and had a birth certificate with him.

English grammar called. It wants it's dignity back.

Its diginity.

/retarded
//and arrogant now. Apparently.

Oh thank god, I was having a hard time sleeping at night.

/fears canada
/or as I like to call it Americas Hat

ismeldan: FTFA:Bruce Poulin, a salesman from Rollinsford, N.H., knew about the changes were coming and had a birth certificate with him.

English grammar called. It wants it's dignity back.

Rotskied?

Honestly? Much better idea than the "high-tech security card" they wanted. I always have photo ID and my birth certificate on me. I have photo ID so I can drink, and my birth certificate so I can prove to the farking Canadian government that I am me. Without that, it's almost impossible for them to process paperwork.

FTA: ``If we have no questions, we just issue them that piece of paper and then they're allowed to proceed into the U.S.,' he said.

That's some tight security there, Lou.

peck: Technically, they (Canadian guards) have authority to allow or deny entirely on their own judgement. (Not sure if the US ones do).

The US guards are all powerful and can interpret the regulations however they bloody well feel like. I've been involved with cross border transportation for the past couple of years, and have had lots of arguments with high level people about their stupid policy of allowing this. When I complained about some idiots at border crossings that were requiring things that were contrary to regulations, a senior CBP official told me "Ya know, I just got a bunch of guys that are waiting our their retirement, and they really don't want to learn anything new."

As part of so-called Homeland Protection, CBP and TSA and the Keystone Cops of security.

peck: Technically, they (Canadian guards) have authority to allow or deny entirely on their own judgement. (Not sure if the US ones do).

Until recently, people in border towns known to the border guards would use "verbal oaths" to pass. ie. "Hey Frank, going into town to get some stuff" "Sure Bob, have a nice day."

Of course, if they don't personally know you, they can ask for anything. What are they going to do if you challenge them? You ain't crossing.

Shortly after the murders, Despres packed up a car with the murder weapons and drove toward the United States. The car was later found in a gravel pit near the Canada-U.S. border and identified as Fulton's. On April 25, 2005, one day before the bodies were discovered, Despres arrived at the Calais, Maine, border crossing. He presented himself to the U.S. border guards while possessing a chain saw, sword, knife and a hatchet. At the border, Despres boasted of being an assassin for the United States government and of having killed 700. Although the weapons were confiscated and Despres fingerprinted, Despres held a U.S. citizenship and was nonetheless permitted to enter United States.
Link (new window)

I wonder how this is going to work out at border crossings where their are no customs/immigrations?

Pssh, I've already got my passport, so I'm laughing all the way to the American Target stores.

/passport expires next month
//... AHH FARK, my passport expires next month!

linc654: we want you to feel all safe ... please feel safe.

/continue planning for 'stage 2' now my fellow hosers ...
//the time is almost nigh, eh?
///evil laugh.

I for one welcome our new Canadian overlords.

/srsly

FTA - Over the last two fiscal years, 31,000 people who claimed at the borders to be U.S. citizens were not, Ahern said

That's a big problem - like ... 10 a day!

What, pray tell, is "Canada"?

Sounds painful.

GonzoNihilist: I wonder how this is going to work out at border crossings where their are no customs/immigrations?

Snipers hidden in the trees. That's how it's going to work out.

No trees? Mine fields.

scottycujo: fark_your_mudder: Poutine has been outlawed?

/DNRTFA

Wait, that means I have to get my poutine on the black market?

Worth it! Loves me some poutine.

I'm making up a batch in my bathtub right now.

It wants it is dignity, dammit!

I call bullshiat on this. I visited Michigan in October of 2007 and we had to give our driver's license and birth certificate to get through. Both ways.

Maybe the actual rule goes into effect now, but they've been enforcing it for some time now.

Chuck Cunningham: It wants it is dignity, dammit!

I corrected myself, goddamnit.

linc654: we want you to feel all safe ... please feel safe.

/continue planning for 'stage 2' now my fellow hosers ...
//the time is almost nigh, eh?
///evil laugh.

the armoured moose and log slingshots are near completion eh...

FTA: People entering the country will no longer be allowed to simply declare to immigration officers at border crossings that they are citizens.

Was this a widely accepted practice, other than folks in small border towns that were known to border guards? I criss-crossed the Ambassador Bridge by car a number of times in the early-to-mid 1990s and was asked for ID every single time.

everything i need to know about canada, i learned from canadian bacon (new window)


and here's another just for fun

stupid indeed, as some guy on NPR pointed out this morning, you can make a convincing birth certificate on any home pc...

phukitol: the Confederacy has finally won its cold war against the canadian foes and their slave music!

i finally got around to watching that the other night. the commercials were hilarious.

Thank God! Those Canucks were really posing a threat to my American lifestyle.

With their love for hockey, coffee that isn't made by Starbucks, socialized medicine, large Asian population, and great filming locations, there's a damn good reason we finally got those people in check.

sombreradoraloca: Thank God! Those Canucks were really posing a threat to my American lifestyle.

With their love for hockey, coffee that isn't made by Starbucks, socialized medicine, large Asian population, and great filming locations, there's a damn good reason we finally got those people in check.

I can has sarcasticz?

ismeldan: sombreradoraloca: Thank God! Those Canucks were really posing a threat to my American lifestyle.

With their love for hockey, coffee that isn't made by Starbucks, socialized medicine, large Asian population, and great filming locations, there's a damn good reason we finally got those people in check.

I can has sarcasticz?

Is that like The Fantasticks?

I certainly feel safer. Isn't that what this is all about? The warm and fuzzy feeling that the illusion of security is supposed to give?

highendmighty: FTA - Over the last two fiscal years, 31,000 people who claimed at the borders to be U.S. citizens were not, Ahern said

That's a big problem - like ... 10 a day!

Compulsive Liar 1986: linc654: we want you to feel all safe ... please feel safe.

/continue planning for 'stage 2' now my fellow hosers ...
//the time is almost nigh, eh?
///evil laugh.

the armoured moose and log slingshots are near completion eh...

I can see it now: the Trojan Moose.

God Is My Co-Pirate: Compulsive Liar 1986: linc654: we want you to feel all safe ... please feel safe.

/continue planning for 'stage 2' now my fellow hosers ...
//the time is almost nigh, eh?
///evil laugh.

the armoured moose and log slingshots are near completion eh...

I can see it now: the Trojan Moose.

You've been peeking in my nightstand drawer?

This is news? I went to Toronto in 2004 and they asked for my birth certificate and license when I re-entered the US on the Blue Water Bridge.

/The only screening the Canadians did was ask if we had any drugs/weapons in the bus.

*shrug* there are still places that you can cross the border without even seeing a border guard.

Most notably: Link (new window)