Hah, what about Dennis Kucinich and Ted Kennedy?

The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries

OMFG, he really must be a Muslim! Not only that, he's one of those damn insurgent Muslims!!

I'm sure he's among the most liberal, but there's no way his placement in such a list will be remotely objective at this point in the race...

SSP: Hah, what about Dennis Kucinich and Ted Kennedy?

Kucinich is a Representative. He might not be the most liberal in the House, though.

I always find this hysterical, because the real radical left views Obama as far too conservative.

It sure is lucky that the "most liberal" senator always happens to end up being the Democrats' nominee for president. I mean, just think of how many links this article will get from emails and other Republican commentators. If I was a cynical man I might suggest an economic bias to naming him but with a name like "National Journal" they have to be straight shootin' fellas, right?

This is ridiculous. Edwards and Hillary are both to the left of Obama.

In terms of Senators, there are many to the left of Obama.

Nonetheless, we are going to have to listen to a bunch of crap about how "liberal" he is. As if that's even a bad thing.

Meanwhile, the Republicans are falling over each other to prove that they are the most "conservative" choice. As far as I'm concerned, "conservative" is the dirty word.

Snarfangel: Kucinich is a Representative. He might not be the most liberal in the House, though.

I highly doubt he's the most liberal in the House. Probably not by a long shot. Barbara Lee of Oakland for one has to be ranked higher than Kucinich.

FTA:

During the 2004 presidential campaign, for instance, Republicans attacked Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as an extreme liberal, including by pointing to his ranking as the most liberal senator in NJ's 2003 vote ratings.

Oh goody. That farking sucks. Fortunately I think Obama can defend himself better than Kerry. Won't matter for some people.

Jaboobinator: Nonetheless, we are going to have to listen to a bunch of crap about how "liberal" he is. As if that's even a bad thing.

Exactly. Such a stupid thing to be dragged through the coals over. It's what candidates actually voted for or against that matters. Like I said, the L-word for some morons will be enough for them to vote against him, though, actually research and cognitive thinking be damned.

Russ Feingold frown at your shenanigans, National Journal.

Not this shiat again. Hopefully Obama can fend off the conservative lunacy better than Kerry did (hopefully Obama wins the nomination).

Fun_Blame_Monster: Not this shiat again. Hopefully Obama can fend off the conservative lunacy better than Kerry did (hopefully Obama wins the nomination).

He will if he's in the position, and hopefully he will win the nomination. He'll fight back, for one.

It's so great National Journal can always count for Fark to greenlit their bullshiat about Democratic nominees just happening to be the most liberal liberal in the history of history.

It takes alot of nerve to that far off in your assessment and still go print.

Jon Snow: Russ Feingold frown at your shenanigans, National Journal.

this

The grid never lies.

This is just one more indication that his critics have nothing.

robsul82: It's so great National Journal can always count for Fark to greenlit their bullshiat about Democratic nominees just happening to be the most liberal liberal in the history of history.

I think you have National Journal mixed up with William F. Buckley's National Review.

National Journal runs a whole bunch of specialty publications for the serious players in DC, and they play it pretty much straight (because somebody has to). That daily Hotline thing they run is something like two grand a year.

Am I susposed to have heard of the National Journal before?

I think I see how this works:

Convention hands nomination to Obama... Obama is most liberal Senator

Convention hands nomination to Clinton... Clinton is most liberal Senator

Convention hands nomination to ham sandwich... hand sandwich is most liberal sandwich

ham, not hand, sandwich dammit

clgrin: ham, not hand, sandwich dammit

Hand Banana?

coma: It sure is lucky that the "most liberal" senator always happens to end up being the Democrats' nominee for president. I mean, just think of how many links this article will get from emails and other Republican commentators. If I was a cynical man I might suggest an economic bias to naming him but with a name like "National Journal" they have to be straight shootin' fellas, right?

Great big piles of THIS. Help yourself to one of our free complimentary internets.

I hope the new candidate "takes back" the word liberal in much the same way black people "took back" that special word the filter likes. With no one willing to admit that they're (gasp) liberal, no wonder it's still the smear word the conservatives have made it into.

What's the dictionary say? Let's see...
• broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant ...
• having political or social views favoring reform and progress
• tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition
• a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
• big: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather"
• a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
• free: not literal; "a loose interpretation of what she had been told"; "a free translation of the poem"

Hmmmmm... exactly what in there am I supposed to be ashamed of if I self-identify as a liberal? Anyone?

Bueller?

Bueller?

/Social liberal
/Fiscal conservative

Sheesh, just yesterday Clinton was whining that Obama was too conservative.

National Journal says so, eh? MUST BE TRUE!

btw, "most liberal" not nearly as scary as "most conservative," a title which GOP contenders actively seek...

IMHO, of course

And as we all know...

"Liberalism is BAD... Mm-kay? Don't be a liberal. If you're a liberal you're a bad person."

I came here to say Feingold, but two distinguished gentlemen (or women) previously said such

Gee, the way everyone is rushing to deny it, I guess liberal must be a bad thing...

Liberal in the classic sense is nothing to be ashamed of at all. Obama seems to be a liberal in the classic sense, so far.

Now, the douchebags claiming George W. Bush is ruining my life--argh!! argh!! Everything he does is wrong!!1!
Do you ever hear liberals say, I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it? Fark no you don't. That was once the case, now they live to be offended. And complain. Constantly.



/Conservative Republican

Where did the Hero tag go?

Spanky_McFarksalot: Gee, the way everyone is rushing to deny it, I guess liberal must be a bad thing...

No, it's just been reduced to a term lacking any sense of objectivity thanks to decades of misuse and abuse.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
- Lewis Carrol, Through The Looking Glass

Am I the only one who looked at the headline and thought, "good"?

where are our buddies hillary4real and bitteroldman?

keithgabryelski: where are our buddies hillary4real and bitteroldman?

They're saving all their political comics for the debate in 30 minutes.

Jon Snow: Russ Feingold frown at your shenanigans, National Journal.

Exactly. And I'm sure it's just a total coincidence that John Kerry happened to be the most liberal in 2004....

Solid State Vittles: Oh goody. That farking sucks. Fortunately I think Obama can defend himself better than Kerry. Won't matter for some people.

It's a pretty different time, too. I suspect a lot more people, will be able to see through the bullshiat of Republicans yelling "LIBERAL!!" and expecting everyone to line up against him. It's hard to hold on to a bit of credibility when the people doing the accusing have farked things up so royally.

Chuck Wagon: clgrin: ham, not hand, sandwich dammit

Hand Banana?

you. tonight.

It's a silly ranking.

Crude: Do you ever hear liberals say, I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it? Fark no you don't. That was once the case, now they live to be offended. And complain. Constantly.

You could also say you never hear conservatives say that very same thing. In fact, for a good while now, you hear conservatives say "I don't agree with what you have to say, therefore you are unpatriotic and unAmerican."

Ranked by whom? Elmer Fudd or Karl Rove.

Crude: Liberal in the classic sense is nothing to be ashamed of at all. Obama seems to be a liberal in the classic sense, so far.

Now, the douchebags claiming George W. Bush is ruining my life--argh!! argh!! Everything he does is wrong!!1!
Do you ever hear liberals say, I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it? Fark no you don't. That was once the case, now they live to be offended. And complain. Constantly.

That's because this nation's citizenry has been subjected to "The Big Switcheroo".

It's not enough to disagree with your opposition anymore, now you have to HATE them.

It's not enough to think "I'm right and they're wrong because I know better than they do" anymore, now you have to think "I'm right and they KNOW I'm right but they're just being wrong to SPITE me".

It's not enough to think "Everything about the opposition is wrong" anymore, now you have to think "Everything that is wrong is the opposition".

It's real.
It's depressing.
And it's doing more damage to America than any amount of hijacked airliners ever could.

JerseyTim: The grid never lies.

Hard to tell; that chart doesn't measure "liberal".

Liberal in what way?

Define it for me

Crude: Do you ever hear liberals say, I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it?

scratches head Uh, what about the ACLU?

And, if conservatives are such a bastion for American values, why aren't they shouting that mantra?

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: That's because this nation's citizenry has been subjected to "The Big Switcheroo".

It's not enough to disagree with your opposition anymore, now you have to HATE them.

It's not enough to think "I'm right and they're wrong because I know better than they do" anymore, now you have to think "I'm right and they KNOW I'm right but they're just being wrong to SPITE me".

The head of the nail...you just hit it.
It's not enough to think "Everything about the opposition is wrong" anymore, now you have to think "Everything that is wrong is the opposition".

Crude:
Now, the douchebags claiming George W. Bush is ruining my life--argh!! argh!! Everything he does is wrong!!1!
Do you ever hear liberals say, I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it? Fark no you don't. That was once the case, now they live to be offended. And complain. Constantly.

Back to the "Free Speech Zone" with you. Wait...what?


/Conservative Republican

There are drugs to treat delusional schizophrenia these days.

And before anybody calls me a hypocrite...

Knowing the right thing to and doing it without fail are not the same thing.
I'm only human.

I officially do not care about the liberal and conservative tags. They do not mean anything, each politician does what he thinks will get him elected, period.

wow...how did I fark up that post so badly?

I heard on a news program that Obama missed a lot of votes because of campaigning, many of them on controversial issues. (This was a charge he was hit with when he was in the Illinois senate also.)

I only skimmed the article but there are a lot of votes that we don't have his opinions on.

log_jammin: wow...how did I fark up that post so badly?

You're only human.