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(some musician) PSA The RPM Challenge -- record an album during the month of February   (rpmchallenge.com) divider line 52
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pxlboy [TotalFark] 2008-01-29 11:45:39 AM  
anyone participating in this?

 
Doctor Hooey 2008-01-29 12:09:17 PM  
I am actually doing just that, but I only now heard about this contest. Uncanny.

 
John Paul Jones [TotalFark] 2008-01-29 12:12:14 PM  
Doctor Hooey: I am actually doing just that, but I only now heard about this contest. Uncanny.

Yeah, me too.

 
Calamormine [TotalFark] 2008-01-29 01:35:19 PM  
I'm down.

 
QU!RK1019 2008-01-29 01:41:19 PM  
I would be really cautious about entering this challenge. I can't find any info about licensing rights. You may be inadvertently entering into a contract with these folks just by submitting. Unless anybody can find a statement from them saying that you will retain all the rights to your songs, I wouldn't sign up.

 
Compulsive Liar 1986 2008-01-29 01:46:52 PM  
interesting. i would totally do this if i didn't have more pressing obligations.

plus, what QU!RK1019 said.

 
Goonie_Goo_Goo 2008-01-29 02:10:15 PM  
I've had another musician approach me about this. Wish I could do it (I love quick one-off projects). Unfortunately, I'm still building my home studio and don't have everything in place.

/likes old ratty recording gear
//wants to get an old tube driven wire recorder
///would die to record straight to wax

 
RevLovejoy 2008-01-29 02:15:03 PM  
I have no gear, nor musical talent.

I'm in!

 
pngwnpwr 2008-01-29 02:28:19 PM  
Can it be an album of endless bass noodling? If so I am in.

 
First Post 2008-01-29 02:58:53 PM  
Did it last year, am doing it again this year.

QU!RK1019: I would be really cautious about entering this challenge. I can't find any info about licensing rights. You may be inadvertently entering into a contract with these folks just by submitting. Unless anybody can find a statement from them saying that you will retain all the rights to your songs, I wouldn't sign up.

I don't think it's a problem, really. Some folks did full releases of their RPM work, iTunes
and CD sales and all that, and nobody from RPM sued them for money or anything.
They'll put your work up on the jukebox for free, but you can opt out of that too.

 
FreeLoveFreeway 2008-01-29 03:20:29 PM  
An album in a month? Just one album?

www.candiedpop.com
Try doing one in 2 weeks and having it go platinum.

 
First Post 2008-01-29 03:29:16 PM  
Sure, why not. The White Stripes win, everybody else quit making music now :P

 
kungfu jesus with a side of lime 2008-01-29 03:29:42 PM  
I don't think I will do anything with it, but it sounds like a good goal. Garageband here i come.

 
gilla 2008-01-29 03:34:02 PM  
Dookie, went diamond. produced in 2 weeks.

/old greenday ftw
//new greenday destroying what respect they once had.

 
frostus [TotalFark] 2008-01-29 03:42:38 PM  
pngwnpwr: Can it be an album of endless bass noodling? If so I am in.

Nice. That means my 35 minute drum solo is probably okay to send in too!

 
flecsrogar 2008-01-29 03:43:02 PM  
gilla: Dookie, went diamond. produced in 2 weeks.

/old greenday ftw
//new greenday destroying what respect they once had.


Nofx's "Surfer" and "F**ck the kids". Each produced in 2 days. Written in 2 hours.

/Genius?
//.....maybe not?

 
aphyd 2008-01-29 03:46:24 PM  
frostus: pngwnpwr: Can it be an album of endless bass noodling? If so I am in.

Nice. That means my 35 minute drum solo is probably okay to send in too!


Just mash 'em together and call it free jazz.

 
Millzners 2008-01-29 03:49:30 PM  
I'm in.

My only concern? That Fark does a followup and link to our work, I would be bummed if we all did this and then no followup link or thread...

 
deevo 2008-01-29 03:50:31 PM  
Didn't the album-a-day club do this first

/and quicker

 
goodbomb 2008-01-29 04:17:56 PM  
me too

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2008-01-29 04:42:01 PM  
FreeLoveFreeway: Try doing one in 2 weeks and having it go platinum.

It's been done, tons of times. And among notable albums recorded in no time flat, Led Zeppelin I was recorded in one 30 hour session, Are You Experienced? was recorded over multiple sessions totaling 30 hours.

 
Millzners 2008-01-29 04:46:09 PM  
WhyteRaven74: FreeLoveFreeway: Try doing one in 2 weeks and having it go platinum.

It's been done, tons of times. And among notable albums recorded in no time flat, Led Zeppelin I was recorded in one 30 hour session, Are You Experienced? was recorded over multiple sessions totaling 30 hours.


And if you want to go back even further the STANDARD for recording an album was a few days -- a good band would play in a room with 1 mic and nail the song in 1 take, and move on to the next one. You can thank the Beatles for the 'let's spend a few months on 1 track' mentality that's so popular now.

 
radioberlin 2008-01-29 05:00:45 PM  
I think I'll put together a band just for this. Get some my better jamming buddies together in a room and just everyone jusy puts it all out there - throw all at the wall as see what sticks so to speak.

 
Goonie_Goo_Goo 2008-01-29 05:05:20 PM  
aphyd: frostus: pngwnpwr: Can it be an album of endless bass noodling? If so I am in.
Nice. That means my 35 minute drum solo is probably okay to send in too!
Just mash 'em together and call it free jazz.


Jazz Odyssey: Written by Derek Smalls, this instrumental premiered at Themeland Amusement Park in Stockton, California, during the 1982 tour despite David's reluctance to "do a free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd." As it turned out, only a sparse crowd was on hand to witness the rebirth of Tap sans Nigel. It may have been a good thing: Nigel is not a fan of jazz. "Jazz," he said in 1992," is just a series of mistakes without the 'oops.' " (LT) Nigel has also lambasted jazz guitarists for playing so soft. "I don't understand it. They use this bizarre tone on their guitars; it's like it's under a tub of water. It's like plup-plup-plup-plup-plup, like a little motor boat. But I think that's because they're old people, and they don't like the noise. And of course they play soft, so you can't hear them. Then they go, 'Yeah, I'm a great player.' 'Sure, mate. I've gotta take your word for it.' With me, I play loud. My manhood is right on the table. Examine it, pick it up, if you will." (GP) Derek: "Hopefully there's a bit of Jazz Odyssey in everything we play." (QM) Asked if the band would ever record Jazz Odyssey, Derek replied, "To record it, I think, would be to imprison a bird that must fly free."

VIDEO (new window)

 
QU!RK1019 2008-01-29 05:27:39 PM  
Millzners: WhyteRaven74: FreeLoveFreeway: Try doing one in 2 weeks and having it go platinum.

It's been done, tons of times. And among notable albums recorded in no time flat, Led Zeppelin I was recorded in one 30 hour session, Are You Experienced? was recorded over multiple sessions totaling 30 hours.

And if you want to go back even further the STANDARD for recording an album was a few days -- a good band would play in a room with 1 mic and nail the song in 1 take, and move on to the next one. You can thank the Beatles for the 'let's spend a few months on 1 track' mentality that's so popular now.


Of course, you can also thank the Beatles for the "Please Please Me" album, which was recorded in one day, including a one-take "Twist And Shout."

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-29 05:37:33 PM  
Can't. Present music is already contracted for a movie and the next CD comes out afterwards. Maybe next year's contest... :)

 
carmody 2008-01-29 05:44:51 PM  
millzners: You can thank the Beatles for the 'let's spend a few months on 1 track' mentality that's so popular now.

Yeah, but all their LPs up to Rubber Soul were recorded live in the studio very quickly:

Please Please Me (1963): Three days.
With the Beatles (1963): Four days.
A Hard Day's Night (1964): Five days.
Beatles for Sale (1964): Five days.

Bob Dylan introduces the band to cannabis.

Help! (1965): 11 days.
Rubber Soul (1965): 40 days.

George Harrison's dentist introduces the band to LSD.

Revolver (1966): 77 days.
Sgt. Pepper (1967): 111 days.
The Beatles (The White Album) (1968): 137 days.

And so on. But you have to admit that the stuff on the later albums ("A Day in the Life" and "Helter Skelter" for instance) is immeasurably more complex than the earlier stuff (such as "Love Me Do" and "I Want to Hold Your Hand"). Plus everything takes longer on LSD.

 
danduran 2008-01-29 05:52:16 PM  
All you people saying it was done by Zeppelin, etc are missing the point. 99% of the people taking part in things like RPM and FAWM are normal, everyday people with full time jobs and whatnot. It's bloody difficult recording a full album by yourself inside a month.

I've done it twice - once writing the songs as I went (Feb 2006), which was rough, but a few okay songs. The second time, July 2007, I used songs I'd had kicking around for a while, and it came out a million times better.

lunaspark.net (new window) - Scud Of Freedom is the later one, for people who are into electro-rock-indie kind of stuff I suppose.

 
danduran 2008-01-29 05:54:32 PM  
Also, it's not always about ending up with something of releasable quality - sometimes songwriters get writers block, and doing something like this is like forcibly popping the cork, so to speak. Get the creative juices flowing, etc etc.

 
pngwnpwr 2008-01-29 06:07:48 PM  
Hmm, enough people play on here. Maybe a collaborative Fark album could be brewed up? Suggest some band name / album titles! We could have one hell of a photoshop contest for the album cover too.

A humble band / album name suggestion:

Name: Lords of Farkistan
Album: You'll Get Over It

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-29 06:37:41 PM  
Am in for an ambient piece or an oldie. Anyone else want to jump in and add a song?

 
Derwood 2008-01-29 06:39:12 PM  
Drive-By Truckers recorded their new album (19 tracks) in 2 weeks.

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-29 06:39:42 PM  
www.vitalsecurity.org


for the back cover. Our squirrel goes on the front :)

 
Crude 2008-01-29 06:46:49 PM  
cache.viewimages.com
Can I play??

 
thesubliminalman 2008-01-29 08:34:56 PM  
QU!RK1019: I would be really cautious about entering this challenge. I can't find any info about licensing rights. You may be inadvertently entering into a contract with these folks just by submitting. Unless anybody can find a statement from them saying that you will retain all the rights to your songs, I wouldn't sign up.

Fark it it's my hobby gonna go for it!

http://www.reverbnation.com/thesubliminalman

If you think you are gonna get famous over night you are kidding yourself.

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-29 08:38:21 PM  
Make a clause for the Fark CD: all copyright holders retain their copyrights and have given permission for Fark to use their creation for the compilation....

 
thesubliminalman 2008-01-29 08:47:22 PM  
pngwnpwr: Hmm, enough people play on here. Maybe a collaborative Fark album could be brewed up? Suggest some band name / album titles! We could have one hell of a photoshop contest for the album cover too.

A humble band / album name suggestion:

Name: Lords of Farkistan
Album: You'll Get Over It


we need this!
what happened to audio?

 
Duhktape 2008-01-29 08:54:13 PM  
My Friends band just did a 13 song record in 3 days and it sounds phenomenal. That doesn't count the mixing and mastering, though.

www.myspace.com/elephantgunchicago Check out some of the tracks if you wish. Their an "alt country" band, I guess. Line up includes a pretty unique stretch of instruments (trumpet, organ, marimba). Sorry for the plug.

Plus, I'd say 29 days is a good amount of time to release a pretty epic album. If they wanted it to be more of a challenge, they would set it at a week, two at most. I'd say most amateur musicians and bands could probably release a decent album in 29 days.

 
danduran 2008-01-29 09:01:41 PM  
Duhktape: Plus, I'd say 29 days is a good amount of time to release a pretty epic album. If they wanted it to be more of a challenge, they would set it at a week, two at most. I'd say most amateur musicians and bands could probably release a decent album in 29 days.

But as I said earlier, how is it possible to record a whole album in a week if you're working 9 hours of each of those days? It's not aimed at professional musicians, who could write and record all day, all month if they wanted to.

 
Dear Jerk 2008-01-29 09:03:11 PM  
1. Twerpy vocals.
2. Beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.
3. Gangsta rap with twerpy rappers and beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.

The three big things that are wrong with music, now that everybody can be a musician.

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-29 09:12:49 PM  
Dear Jerk Quote 2008-01-29 09:03:11 PM
1. Twerpy vocals.
2. Beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.
3. Gangsta rap with twerpy rappers and beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.

The three big things that are wrong with music, now that everybody can be a musician.

4. Repetitive beats and dance music made from sound samples in an editing program


FTFY

 
echoshizzle 2008-01-29 09:42:17 PM  
Nightmaretony: Dear Jerk Quote 2008-01-29 09:03:11 PM
1. Twerpy vocals.
2. Beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.
3. Gangsta rap with twerpy rappers and beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.

The three big things that are wrong with music, now that everybody can be a musician.

4. Repetitive beats and dance music made from sound samples in an editing program


FTFY


Dance music is great, don't hate.

Hell, I used to hate the fact that people didn't play instruments to make music. A computer is an instrument of sorts now a days, sure it might not take the amount of skill to "play" but it does take a lot of talent to produce a "good beat" that people will enjoy (the lyrics over that beat may suck though). It's not traditional of course, but then again neither is anything we do with computers anymore.

My biggest problem is the over-production of some rock/alternative music today. Some of these bands sound absolutely terrible live, but their album sounds halfway decent. It's quite sad that these performers can't live up to what the put on an album live. Used to be there were bands who sounded better live than on their album, now most sound worse.

 
pipco 2008-01-29 10:27:42 PM  
Goonie_Goo_Goo:
//wants to get an old tube driven wire recorder


I had a Webster-Chicago back when I was a kid. Oooh! it was cool. It had the art-deco grille and stuff. My uncle rigged Me up an adapter so I could use it as My first guitar amp. Obviously it wasn't loud, I got a decent sound out of it. Many years ago when I was stooopit, I lent it to some guy.... ... argh

 
Melquiades [TotalFark] 2008-01-30 12:08:44 AM  
Always wanted to be in a band, but never managed to make it happen. Have recently become addicted to GarageBand. I think I might have a go at this.....

 
2and4 2008-01-30 01:01:22 AM  
As a lifelong musician/drummer, I'd like to point out the fact that spelling, grammar, and syntax are by far better on the 'Music' tab than any other tab on Fark.

/Even those assholes over on the 'Politics' tab

 
danduran 2008-01-30 03:09:24 AM  
echoshizzle: My biggest problem is the over-production of some rock/alternative music today. Some of these bands sound absolutely terrible live, but their album sounds halfway decent. It's quite sad that these performers can't live up to what the put on an album live. Used to be there were bands who sounded better live than on their album, now most sound worse.

I reckon it's the opposite - so many bands sound awesome live, but the records are so overproduced and compressed, they can't compare.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-01-30 08:23:43 AM  
One album in one month? Coil used to call those weekdays...

 
Kodiak Attack 2008-01-30 02:17:45 PM  
Would go for it if I could, but I'm in the middle of doing an album right now under my FARK handle (which I'm trying to finish by the end of March). I'm also doing songs for two other online projects. Busy busy busy.

/40 hour work week + commute + 5 hours a week exercise = no time
//seriously considering getting a laptop to work on stuff while commuting (I bus)

 
guy_smiley 2008-01-30 03:34:08 PM  
Did this last year, doing it again this year. It was a blast, met a lot of cool people, heard a lot of music.

The site just presents the challenge and is a hub for it, they retain no rights to your music...

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-30 05:52:25 PM  
echoshizzle Quote 2008-01-29 09:42:17 PM
Nightmaretony: Dear Jerk Quote 2008-01-29 09:03:11 PM
1. Twerpy vocals.
2. Beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.
3. Gangsta rap with twerpy rappers and beats that are little more than distorted metronomes.

The three big things that are wrong with music, now that everybody can be a musician.

4. Repetitive beats and dance music made from sound samples in an editing program


FTFY

Dance music is great, don't hate.

Hell, I used to hate the fact that people didn't play instruments to make music. A computer is an instrument of sorts now a days, sure it might not take the amount of skill to "play" but it does take a lot of talent to produce a "good beat" that people will enjoy (the lyrics over that beat may suck though). It's not traditional of course, but then again neither is anything we do with computers anymore.

My biggest problem is the over-production of some rock/alternative music today. Some of these bands sound absolutely terrible live, but their album sounds halfway decent. It's quite sad that these performers can't live up to what the put on an album live. Used to be there were bands who sounded better live than on their album, now most sound worse.

Most dance and top 40 just seems to sound the same to me, and yup, the young 'uns can get off my lawn. Cranky old type here.


Seriously, there IS some dance I do enjoy here and there, same with top 40, but those would be things that tend to stand out from the same old thing. One I tended to despise was those who did wholesale samples of older music and built around that without much of anything else.

One other gripe is the old compression gig, dynamic range being driven out of existence.



But then, I use 2 analog synthesizers, a theremin and an antique pump organ as well as midi for music and I don't use Acid or Protools. So up, lawn, onion on belt, yadda yadda

 
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