In all fairness, his job was to make rich people richer.

Which is pretty much what you'll get with a Romney administration.

A Republican who will decimate the lives of working people in order to slightly increase the marginal return to investors?

Color me shocked.

I don't think there is a single thing that he has the same stance on today that he did ten years ago. That's not a good thing.

Flip-flop? Where is the mass outrage? Where are the flip-flops on sticks in peoples yards?

Please, when he was speaking to a pro-business group, he was for big business, and when he was speaking to a pro-populist group, he was for the little guy. That's pandering, not flip-flopping, and the American people deserve a President who knows the difference!

Well, at least he worked in industry. In the same situation, we don't know what McCain, Rudi, Huckabee, Hillary, Obama and Edwards would actually do, and if they could save a company or not.

Flip-flop, pandering, fark Romney. Either way he's a two-bit salesman trying to sell us a polished turd.

that sill makes him better than John "Vote for me because I'll follow Osama Bin Laden to the Gates of hell!!!!!" McCain

atlanta_ufo: Well, at least he worked in industry. In the same situation, we don't know what McCain, Rudi, Huckabee, Hillary, Obama and Edwards would actually do, and if they could save a company or not.

War hero, mayor, preacher, president's wife, constitutional scholar, lawyer. In that order.

I assume John McCain had an actual job at some point between vietnam and becoming a senator but as a presidential candidate he's basically running on military experience, which is original for a republican becuase he actually has it.

Rudy, I think, is a corporate lobbyist when he's not reliving 9/11 over and over for eternity.

Hillary's a lobbyist and she's been on a few corporate boards (not on her back, nobody wants that) but it's not like she's a feminist, she doesn't neccesarily need to have had a job after marrying Bill.

I'd heard in the SC thread last night that Obama taught constitutional studies in a university.

Edwards chased ambulances for a living.

/Obama 08

>> "I'll fight to save every job"

Yeah he'll save them for illegal immigrants just like shrub.

My company was acquired by Bain Capital, and I lost my job on January 7th, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/really

Falcc: I assume John McCain had an actual job at some point between vietnam and becoming a senator but as a presidential candidate he's basically running on military experience, which is original for a republican becuase he actually has it.

Wikipedia says no. Out of the Naval Academy in 1958, age 22. Naval service until 1981. House of Representatives beginning in 1982, elected office holder since.

2and4: My company was acquired by Bain Capital, and I lost my job on January 7th, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/really

Awkward...

His ultimate responsibility was to make money for Bain's investors, former partners said.

I'm not a Romney supporter, but I really don't see a problem with this. In a for-profit corporation, your job is to maximize shareholder wealth, not employ as many people as possible. I do think he over-promised a bit in Michigan though.

>> Darius Harris - I don't see it.

Yeah that could be your theme song.

justoneznot: I'm not a Romney supporter, but I really don't see a problem with this. In a for-profit corporation, your job is to maximize shareholder wealth, not employ as many people as possible. I do think he over-promised a bit in Michigan though.

That's because there is no problem

To you people that don't know how a corporation is supposed to function, SHUT UP.

You clowns should be focusing on the lie, "I'll fight to save every job," when it is clear that as a businessman he knows he simply can't, and shouldn't do that.

McManus_brothers: Please, when he was speaking to a pro-business group, he was for big business, and when he was speaking to a pro-populist group, he was for the little guy. That's pandering, not flip-flopping, and the American people deserve a President who knows the difference!

Well spoken, sir.

Sgt Oddball: Well spoken, sir.

Alas, not mine. Adapted from an SNL skit.

Falcc:

War hero, mayor, preacher, president's wife, constitutional scholar, lawyer. In that order.

I'm pretty sure that Ron Paul is the constitutional scholar, not Obama.

themadfive: I'm pretty sure that Ron Paul is the constitutional scholar, not Obama.

And you'd be wrong. Obama rocked the house in Constitutional Law at Harvard and then later taught it in Illinois.

Darius Harris: If I recall, in 2004 we were told that changing positions was 'nuance' or a 'nuanced approach'; the sign of a man willing to learn and correct mistakes - i.e. one who doesn't 'see things in black and white'. Naturally, such leeway can't granted to a conservative.

At any rate, the election campaign is a really long job interview for the office position of Chief Executive. There's the resume to consider. IMHO, an applicant for the job of Chief Executive should have at least been an executive in some role, somewhere. Candidates like Mike Huckabee, Bill Richardson and Mitt Romney have executive experience. They've been state governors. In Mitt Romney's case, he's also run large companies. He even ran the Olympics.

Hillary and Obama have never run anything. As much as the democrats and the media are wringing their hands over 'the economy', you would think that someone with a wealth of real & proven business and management experience would be the best candidate compared to one without any such experience. But all you hear out there from democrats (or read on Fark.com) is nonsense about Mormons. It's ridiculous.

As far as 'flip-flopping on abortion', the story's more complicated than that but at least you know where he stands now. Democrats don't care that he changed his stance. They're angry because he changed it to a stance they don't like. Democrats don't put the guy down because he believes in God, since Obama can't seem to talk about his christian faith enough! They just want to attack mormons - just like the intolerant bigots they vehemently accuse others of being. It's shameful. That's not 'uniting the country'. That's not 'Change'.

When it comes to layoffs vs. 'fighting to save jobs', your role as CEO of a business is completely different than your role would be as United States President. Businesses have costs. Sales and profits don't happen by magic. Sometimes businesses expand and grow, while other times they don't. That's life. Nationalized industries like AmTrack can operate at a loss, as can factories in communist countries, or even the federal government. In the real world, they can't. But as President, you have the power (IF you know what to do) to help change the business environment on a national scale that can lessen unemployment and create long term growth.

I'm sorry, but I would trust someone like Romney with that task before I'd entrust it to Hillary or Obama, simply because they don't have the experience to direct the economy that they complain about. I don't see it.

justoneznot: His ultimate responsibility was to make money for Bain's investors, former partners said.

I'm not a Romney supporter, but I really don't see a problem with this. In a for-profit corporation, your job is to maximize shareholder wealth, not employ as many people as possible. I do think he over-promised a bit in Michigan though.

Romney, who had recently lost a Senate race in which the strike became a flashpoint, responded that he had "privately" urged a settlement, but was advised by lawyers not to intervene directly. His political interests, he explained, conflicted with his business responsibilities.

This is the part that you miss. He was running for a Senate race and decided to side with his business interests over his possible constitutes interests. If he had done this while just an executive I would say you were right and there is no problems, but he did it while campaigning and proved that he is nothing more then a corporate whore.

As usual with Romney, you can't believe a word out of his mouth. To find out what he really believes, watch his actions (once it's too late).

Romney loves rich people. And he'll say or do anything to get elected. That's pretty much all you need to know about him.

Dr_pepper_spray: Flip-flop, pandering, fark Romney. Either way he's a two-bit salesman trying to sell us a polished turd.

Coffee bean encrusted civet turds? I hear those go for top dollar.

* clambers onto soapbox *

None of the current crop of GOPhers is anything but an unmitigated disaster. Romulan is Zelig, a shapeshifting, disingenuous, say-anthing typa snake oil salesman who can only be trusted to lie. WalnutZ McTaint is a war-mongering, half crazed, too-old coot who is still pissed he sat out 'Nam in the Hanoi Hilton & wants a do-over in Iraq. Trudy Julie Annie is a cross dressing Vulture fund backed fascist wannabe. A little man in search of a big balcony. Huckabee is an evolution denying, father of a sadist, whose Talibaptist, theocratic tendencies should send everybody's built in alarm system to DefCon 1.

Anybody who buys into ANY of these as*-wipes schtick is an as*-clown college drop-out who seriously needs to sign up for "Getting hit on the head lessons"

* clambers offa soapbox *

Excellent!
(Jeez, you guys are slow)

Quatchi,

You forgot to malign Paul.

Atillathepun:

And you'd be wrong. Obama rocked the house in Constitutional Law at Harvard and then later taught it in Illinois.

Looks as if he didn't pay close enough attention, considering some of his campaign promises which go directly against the constitution.

/not an Obama-hater
//actually my third favorite still in the race
///behind Paul and Gravel