it's not them--the clintons are the most focused and most talented politicians of their generation who have a compulsive need for attention and power. this is how they campaign and win office--they attack and will never give up

Why the surprise? They broke rule #1. Never trust whitey.

BobtheFascist: Never trust whitey.


NEVER TRUST WHITEY

hillbillypharmacist: BobtheFascist: Never trust whitey.


NEVER TRUST WHITEY

BobtheFascist: Why the surprise? They broke rule #1. Never trust whitey.

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hillbillypharmacist: NEVER TRUST WHITEY

veedeevadeevoodee: "Who da hell is this crazy white biotch ? Gett off me, sucka !"

It looks like there are some shenanigans being disapproved of.

Clinton's basic attitude towards black voters is: you owe me, pay up. Odd that they don't respond to that message.

JFC! I am so sick of the media stoking this racial thing it farking pisses me off.

Seriously, Bill Clinton was the president most interested in advancing racial equality and addressing the concerns of blacks since LBJ. EITHER democrat would be a hundred times better than whoever wins the "old white dude vs. middle age white dude vs. other middle age white dude" contest going on in the other party.

But nooo. The media "OMG some ppl are chix AND black, who should they vote for?" Shut the fark up. They should vote for the person who they think would be the best president. Just like you LOUDOBBSWOLFBLITZERANDERSONCOOPERBRITTHUME!

Gah.

"Are you saying that the Democraic party doesn't represent the interests of african americans?"



"Isn't that obvious?"

ablank Seriously, Bill Clinton was the president most interested in advancing racial equality getting blacks to vote for him and addressing the concerns of blacks flamewars since LBJ.

I wish I had been paying closer attention so I could pinpoint the spot when the media went from covering the issues to making mountain ranges out of a mole hill.

said David Bositis, chief researcher for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a black think tank

Ya see, a white think tank thinks like this, but a black think tank thinks like this.

fawlty: Clinton's basic attitude towards black voters is: you owe me, pay up. Odd that they don't respond to that message.

Forgot to add: because if you don't pay up, you'll wind up with some nagger candidate that's unelectable.

Darius Harris: I think Dick Morris is right. The Clintons have now caused Obama to position himself as the 'black' candidate; the idea being to pit blacks against the rest of the country. Its pure evil and it's probably going to be very effective for them.

until the General Election... just wait til Romney or McCain chooses Colin Powell as their running mate.

flip the script, Republicans!

/anyone but Clintons

Are you joking they are No doubt playing the black people. They are trying to use it as a campaign strategy.

I think the Clintons are both Farking Idiots, but I guess smart to for playing that card. All I can say is if Hillary stayed with him after his cheating what kind of President would she be? Not a very good one.

ablank: But nooo. The media "OMG some ppl are chix AND black, who should they vote for?" Shut the fark up. They should vote for the person who they think would be the best president.

Christ. Thanks for clearing that up. As a male Anglo Saxon American, elections are always confusing.

MFL: ablank Seriously, Bill Clinton was the president most interested in advancing racial equality getting blacks to vote for him and addressing the concerns of blacks flamewars since LBJ.

Hey, as long as republicans continue to care this much about the concerns of black voters...

Darius Harris
I think Dick Morris is right. The Clintons have now caused Obama to position himself as the 'black' candidate; the idea being to pit blacks against the rest of the country. Its pure evil and it's probably going to be very effective for them.

Two words...white backlash.

You are so correct it's not even funny.

Noooo!!

Duhhhh.



Why do Democrats hate black people?

ablank

Hey, as long as republicans continue to care this much about the concerns of black voters...

This isn't about republicans.

erovegno: All I can say is if Hillary stayed with him after his cheating what kind of President would she be?

A president that knows what a promise is (marriage)?

A president that will think through bad situations and make an honest assessment of how to make them better?

A president that will not take the easiest or expedient course of action that is damaging when another course, be it difficult but doable, is available?

A president that understands forgiveness?

MFL: Darius Harris
I think Dick Morris is right. The Clintons have now caused Obama to position himself as the 'black' candidate; the idea being to pit blacks against the rest of the country. Its pure evil and it's probably going to be very effective for them.

Two words...white backlash.

You are so correct it's not even funny.

In the primaries maybe but come general election time in Novemeber Hillary is going to need those black voters to show up in mass for her. They are likely going to sit at home now and watch her lose the election. She is shooting her self in the foot with these tactics. Her only way to get blacks to vote for her now is to get Obama on the ticket as her VP and I doubt either of them want that after the race getting so personal.

MFL: ablank

Hey, as long as republicans continue to care this much about the concerns of black voters...

This isn't about republicans.
No. It's about completely bullshiat controversies manufactured by the media. Oh look, one prominent person of color says she doesn't like Clinton saying this and some other guy from a "black think tank" sort-of agrees with her.

I'm just saying that this whole thing is BS created by the media more interested in controversy and ratings than in actually reporting on anything that's really happening.

keithgabryelski: erovegno: All I can say is if Hillary stayed with him after his cheating what kind of President would she be?

A president that knows what a promise is (marriage)?

A president that will think through bad situations and make an honest assessment of how to make them better?

A president that will not take the easiest or expedient course of action that is damaging when another course, be it difficult but doable, is available?

A president that understands forgiveness?

LOL

Thanks for brightening up my day with such sincerely delivered naive platitudes.

KernLead: I wish I had been paying closer attention so I could pinpoint the spot when the media went from covering the issues to making mountain ranges out of a mole hill.

Ummm...Day 0.

Wombatzu: Darius Harris: I think Dick Morris is right. The Clintons have now caused Obama to position himself as the 'black' candidate; the idea being to pit blacks against the rest of the country. Its pure evil and it's probably going to be very effective for them.

until the General Election... just wait til Romney or McCain chooses Colin Powell JC Watts as their running mate.

flip the script, Republicans!

/anyone but Clintons

KernLead

I wish I had been paying closer attention so I could pinpoint the spot when the media went from covering the issues to making mountain ranges out of a mole hill.


Im not sure of the exact point but it was sometime before the 1800 Jefferson/Adams election.

funmonger:
Thanks for brightening up my day with such sincerely delivered naive platitudes.

Anything I can do to help my fellow man.

Hey -- so, you think Hillary should have divorced Bill?

keithgabryelski: A president that will not take the easiest or expedient course of action that is damaging when another course, be it difficult but doable, is available?

I thought she did take the easiest course of action given that her end goal was to become president...If she had divorced Bubba, it would have been a lot more difficult to get up to the level where she is today.

/They had a secret agreement - "Don't leave me Hill...I need ya...tell you what, don't divorce me, and we'll make YOU president one day!"

keithgabryelski: A president that will not take the easiest or expedient course of action that is damaging when another course, be it difficult but doable, is available?

Hillary would have dropped Bill in a split second without thinking twice about it if she could have afforded to and there was no way she could have. You think she did the "difficult" thing? No, she did the only thing she could do and still be able to run for president.

Was it wrong to laugh when the video started with an ad claiming 'I want a whiter smile'.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahah!

Yes folks this is the most fun I've had watching a mud slinging, muck rakeing, race/sex card playing, WTF, political horse race ever. I love the information age as I can get every bit of news, every blog, every little utterance all played out in the easily accessed media.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahah!

Darius Harris: I think Dick Morris is right. The Clintons have now caused Obama to position himself as the 'black' candidate; the idea being to pit blacks against the rest of the country. Its pure evil and it's probably going to be very effective for them.

Obama has avoided badging himself the black candidate from the get-go.

The Clintons are certainly playing the race card on a daily basis in order to try and paint Obama as being THE black candidate.

These new all black 527s that Barack never authorised or approved of are doing the same thing suspiciously enuff.

Whether or not the electorate is bright enuff to see behind the curtain is certainly a valid topic of discussion but to claim that Barack has positioned himself as "the black candidate" is unfair.

He's not the best black man for the job.

He's the best person for the job. Period.

Anybody asking Hillary if she's white enuff or too white?

Nobody should vote for Obama (or against him) because he's black.

Everybody should vote for him because he's the best and the brightest and also b/c his nomination/election will bring down the house of Clinton for good, the same way Dumbya has brought down the house of Bush and then America can start becoming something that resembles a real democracy rather than a two party dictatorship with monarchal/ dynastic tendencies.

Supporting a Bush or Clinton ever again is to call for the death of democracy in America.

Dynasty equals Die Nasty as far as democracy is concerned.

I aint wit it!

keithgabryelski: Hey -- so, you think Hillary should have divorced Bill?

No opinion as to whether or not she should have divorced him. I'd divorce my wife in a heartbeat if she cheated on me. No, really... but her choice is none of my business.

I don't think her decision indicates that she's:

A president that knows what a promise is (marriage)?

A president that will think through bad situations and make an honest assessment of how to make them better?

A president that will not take the easiest or expedient course of action that is damaging when another course, be it difficult but doable, is available?

A president that understands forgiveness?

She could just as easily have been hanging on because her husband was president of the United Farking States. Had she divorced him, the closet fundies would never vote for her... just my theory, but it holds water.

randomjsa:
Hillary would have dropped Bill in a split second without thinking twice about it if she could have afforded to and there was no way she could have. You think she did the "difficult" thing? No, she did the only thing she could do and still be able to run for president.

A bare assertion from you -- especially one that expects to know and understand another's motives, does not sway me.

MFL: This isn't about republicans.

ablank No. It's about completely bullshiat controversies manufactured by the media. Oh look, one prominent person of color says she doesn't like Clinton saying this and some other guy from a "black think tank" sort-of agrees with her.

I'm just saying that this whole thing is BS created by the media more interested in controversy and ratings than in actually reporting on anything that's really happening.


I agree that the coverage is BS. But it is intentional BS that is a result of calculated statements and attacks by the Clintons. They know how to play the game.

funmonger:

She could just as easily have been hanging on because her husband was president of the United Farking States. Had she divorced him, the closet fundies would never vote for her... just my theory, but it holds water.

It holds as much water as my conclusion -- and my conclusion has the advantage of matching her stated intentions.

Basically -- There doesn't seem to be any useful reason to believe she is lying about her reasons for not divorcing Bill.
Even if you are correct, that part of her reason was her inability to continue her desired career path, I don't see much issue with that.

+1 to What_Now fer "Iz dis Biatch serious?"

Answer = No, unless you count the fact that she's a serious biatch.

keithgabryelski: A bare assertion from you -- especially one that expects to know and understand another's motives, does not sway me.

It's no more a bare assertion than you saying that she chose to stick with him because she 'knows how to forgive'. You're so full of shiat KGB.

I get it! They're aren't black and Obama is a boy As in, "Shine my shoes, boy!"

/Boy, they sure stepped in it there!

Shaggy_C: keithgabryelski: A bare assertion from you -- especially one that expects to know and understand another's motives, does not sway me.

It's no more a bare assertion than you saying that she chose to stick with him because she 'knows how to forgive'.

My point, as i noted before, is at least my assertion fits her description of the reason she did not divorce, Bill.

My assertion is not quite that bare.

You can certainly believe she is lying about the subject but that requires a little more evidence than I've seen anyone suggestion (and you don't get to beg the question).

You're so full of shiat KGB.

Hey Hey! What's up with that?

and, also, "KGB"?

If this is just the run up to the nomination, just think how much fun a Hillary presidential administration will be!

DO NOT Want!

keithgabryelski:

Hey I agree, there are no useful reasons to to believe she's lying about her reasons for staying with Bill. In fact, I never asserted she was lying, I pointed out the more politically practical reasons for her to stay with her cheating husband to merely intimate that she is likely lying. There's a big difference. One comes out and states opinion as fact, another merely points to reasons why the stated version might not represent the truth.

Either way, I really don't care. My original point is that her staying with her husband in no way asserts that these qualities, which I will post AGAIN so that they aren't ignored...

A president that knows what a promise is (marriage)?

A president that will think through bad situations and make an honest assessment of how to make them better?

A president that will not take the easiest or expedient course of action that is damaging when another course, be it difficult but doable, is available?

A president that understands forgiveness?

... Aren't at all likely outcomes of her experience, and in fact are demonstrably false attributes to Ms. Clinton, who is an excellent politician, and that isn't high praise.

Previous post badly worded, but you get my point.