Coming Anglo-Russian War? Bullsh*t.

ONE PING VASILY.

"Russians don't take a dump, Son, without a plan."

It's just a training operation. And frankly everybody knows that russia can't afford any kind of military engagement these days. They can't even afford to keep antagonizing the chechens.

(Yes, the chechens have done some nasty things, but not everything nasty they've been accused of was actually done by them. And frankly i think the chechens have a pretty reasonable grudge, and should be allowed national independence as guaranteed by the commonwealth)

Really? The coming anglo-russian war? Keep in mind that the UK's primary ally has a navy that has the capability to sink the rest of the worlds navies without suffering significant casualties or loss of material. Not to mention that said ally is sworn under the articles of the NATO alliance to protect the UK.

Where's Alec Baldwin when you need him?

That was just on AMC last night, good mind candy.

/reminded me that it was about time to work my way through Clancy's stuff again
//interesting watching themes shift partway through the series as the Cold War ended

TheBigDog: Where's Alec Baldwin when you need him?

Didn't he move to Canada in 2000? Or was that 2004?

TheBigDog: Where's Alec Baldwin when you need him?

Fred Thompson dropped out of the race. He was last seen on an aircraft carrier in the Atlantic.

I hope the Russians can account for all of their nuclear sub commanders with Scottish accents.

We have lost one of our submarines. We fear she may be down, and - this is most embarrassing, but - several of the officers
are sons of high party officials. One is even the son of a Central Committee member - I cannot say which.

the Russians still have sea worthy vessels?

I blame Time Magazine. Being Man of the Year is obviously going to Putin's head.

God it feels good that we can all just go back to him being "Fred Thompson: Actor"

Today ish a great day, comradesh! We shail into hishtory!

Contemplating yer navel excercises?

How very Zen.

America's perception of herself as being the only superpower left on the globe is an over-assessment.

This is based on the insane of amounts of money spent annually on the military (not the honorable folks who serve as much as the toys) and the fact that China doesn't have a fleet of aircraft carriers with which to project power around the world the way America does.

This is also based on the fact that Russia became "safe" when the boozy Yeltsin was bribed into accepting the Washington Consensus which really Farked their economy up good.

The only thing certain is change and there's nothing new under the sun.

The Middle Kingdom rises as the America's Hegemonic Empire sinks slowly into the west.

Poot Poot is playing a dangerous game here but it appears he's playing several moves ahead of y'all.

Interesting times.

FishingWithFredo: I blame Time Magazine. Being Man of the Year is obviously going to Putin's head.

When Time magazine made everybody their man of the year it certainly went to Quatchi's head. Starting speakin' in Third person and everything.

NewportBarGuy: Today ish a great day, comradesh! We shail into hishtory!

Damn, what I came to say.

"I would liked to have seen Montana..."

Headso:

the Russians still have sea worthy vessels?



Wery disappointed.

McManus_brothers: "I would liked to have seen Montana..."

Damn, what I came to say.

In winter I will live in... Arizona. Actually, I think I will need two wives.

Finally a real war and not none of this hearts and minds bullshiat in the desert. Let's sink some Ruskies!

EwoksSuck: Finally a real war and not none of this hearts and minds bullshiat in the desert. Let's sink some Ruskies!

WOLVERINES!

"Seaman Jones here is into music in a big way, and he views this whole boat as his own personal, private stereo set. Well, one day he's got this piece of Pavarotti..."
"It was Paganini."
"Whatever."
"It was Paganini."
"Look, this is my story, okay?"
"Then tell it right, COB. Pavarotti is a tenor, Paganini was a composer."
"So anyway, he's got this music out in the water, and he's listening to it on his headsets, and he's just happy as a clam. And then all hell breaks loose. See, there's this whole slew of boats out in the water..."
"Including one WAY out at Pearl!"
"Including one way the hell out at Pearl. All of a sudden, they start hearing, Pavarotti...
"Pavarotti!"
"Coming up their asses...!"

b2theory: Really? The coming anglo-russian war? Keep in mind that the UK's primary ally has a navy that has the capability to sink the rest of the worlds navies without suffering significant casualties or loss of material. Not to mention that said ally is sworn under the articles of the NATO alliance to protect the UK.

I speak Russian so you don't have to.

REENLISTMENT BONUS HERE I COME.

/just kidding
//Never Again Volunteer Yourself

That torpedo did NOT self-destruct. You heard it hit the hull, and I... am your father.

By the end of the exercise, how many russian ships will be sunk at the bottom of Red Route One?

"Mr. Ambassador, you have nearly a hundred naval vessels operating in the North Atlantic right now. Your aircraft has dropped enough sonar buoys so that a man could walk from Greenland to Iceland to Scotland without getting his feet wet. Now, shall we dispense with the bull?"

Asa Phelps: It's just a training operation. And frankly everybody knows that russia can't afford any kind of military engagement these days. They can't even afford to keep antagonizing the chechens.

(Yes, the chechens have done some nasty things, but not everything nasty they've been accused of was actually done by them. And frankly i think the chechens have a pretty reasonable grudge, and should be allowed national independence as guaranteed by the commonwealth)

America cant afford the wars were in right now, but that doesnt stop us from puffing out our chests at Iran.

" 'Ad-VERSE-ery'? Surely you mean AD-versary ol'boy "

/too obsure ??

Manfred J. Hattan: That torpedo did NOT self-destruct. You heard it hit the hull, and I... am your father.

hehehe... for the win :)

There are thingsh in here that do not react well to bulletsh.

PirateKing: There are thingsh in here that do not react well to bulletsh.

Yeah. Like me. I don't react well to bullets.

Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.

Crazy Ivan, indeed...

Next time you get a bright idea, just put it in a memo!

A whale, Beaumont, a whale. A marine mammal that knows a hell of a lot more about sonar than you.

thamike: Coming Anglo-Russian War? Bullsh*t.

No, but Europe will be hard pressed by the resurgence of Russia once the United States slinks back into isolation. Think the Russians will really allow the European Union to expand into Belarus or the Ukraine?

It was Paganini! Pavarati is a tenor...Paganini, was, a composer.

I though this might be interesting/informative regarding the nations in this article:

U.S. Navy:
Aircraft Carriers (11 Active, 1 Under Construction, 2 more Planned)
Amphibious Warefare Vessels
Amphibious Assault Ships (10 Active, 1 Under Construction)
Amphibious Transport Docks (11 Active, 3 Under Construction, 4 More Planned)
Dock Landing Ships (12 Active)
Cruisers (22 Active)
Destroyers (52 Active, 3 Under Construction, 7 More Planned)
Frigates (30 Active)
Ballistic Missile Submarines (14 Strategic Nuclear, 4 Conventional Guided Missile)
Attack Submarines (55 Active, 3 Under Construction, 5 More Planned)


Royal Navy:
Aircraft Carriers (2 Active)
Landing Platform Docks (2 Active)
Landing Platform Helicopter (1 Active)
Destroyers (8 Active)
Frigates (17 Active)
Ballistic Missile Submarines (4 Active)
Attack Submarine (9 Active)


Russian Navy
Aircraft Carriers (1 Active, 6 Planned)
Landing Ship Dock (1 Active)
Battle Cruisers (2 Active)
Cruisers (4 Active)
Destroyers (15 Active, 2 Under Construction)
Frigates (11 Active, 5 Under Construction)


It should be noted that these numbers do not indicate scale or quality of the combatants. The Arleigh Burke and Type 42 are far superior to the Sovremenny Class destroyer. Foreign nations aircraft carriers would be classified as Amphibious Assault Ships in the U.S. Navy.

quatchi: Contemplating yer navel excercises?

How very Zen.

...

The Middle Kingdom rises as the America's Hegemonic Empire sinks slowly into the west.

Poot Poot is playing a dangerous game here but it appears he's playing several moves ahead of y'all.

Interesting times.

Quatchi seems very impressed with his [her?] keen analytical skills, which, sadly, all boil down to being a self-loathing American.

Quatchi tries to speak like a sage, but has a hard time at navel-gazing when his head is so far up his arse.

SherKhan: Wery disappointed.

hangs head in shame

b2theory:
Russian Navy
Aircraft CarriersHeavy Aircraft Carrying Cruisers (1 Active, 6 Planned)
Landing Ship Dock (1 Active)
Battle Cruisers (2 Active)
Cruisers (4 Active)
Destroyers (15 Active, 2 Under Construction)
Frigates (11 Active, 5 Under Construction)


fixed. Kuznetsov Class isn't aircraft carrier but heavy aircraft carrying cruiser.
Link (new window)

Jae0o0:

America cant afford the wars were in right now, but that doesnt stop us from puffing out our chests at Iran.

It most certainly can afford it. More hype from the media filtering into every day conversation. The U.S. can afford (as in $$$, not manpower) a few more Iraqs and Afghanistans simultaneously. Cash is not at all the issue there.

McManus_brothers: "I would liked to have seen Montana..."

If i remember right, the russians tried to sell the Admiral Kuznetsov or a sister ship or one very much like her, after the fall of the soviet union. I always though we should of bought her for the marines to use, so they can have a carrier all of there own

/ski jumping harriers for the win!!!
// I'm a Paperclip man myself
///People Against People Ever Reenlisting, Civilian Life Is Preferred
////DaDt survivor
//Slashies!!!!

navylostboy
If i remember right, the russians tried to sell the Admiral Kuznetsov or a sister ship or one very much like her, after the fall of the soviet union.

Here it is.

Build by the Russians, transferred to the Ukraine, sold to China.
Possible fate: Casino in Macau.

Link (full Wiki listing)

Geeshiatold you to speak your mind, but DAMN!

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries_comparison.asp