The problem is that UN talks of "arms control and disarmament" generally means governments disarming the law abiding people as a prelude to genocide or as a means of dictators to secure their power, as has/is happening in Kenya and Uganda. (All under UN supervision of course.)

Human Rights Atrocities: The Consequences of United Nations Gun Confiscation in East Africa (new window) Article is a PDF from 2006.

......Obote was restored to power in 1979, after Amin attacked Tanzania, and was toppled by the Tanzanian army. Obote again began to attempt to disarm the (Law abiding) Karamojong. His efforts were forcefully repelled. The Karamojong had learned that cows and guns are equally indispensable: a person needs a gun immediately at hand to protect one's herd. The most-armed tribes fared the best......

Excellent! Another incompetent Bush crony appointed to a plush government position where he can fark up the world while increasing the profits of Cheney's military-industrial complex.

This corruption is so farkign transparent, yet all it warrants is a paragraph hidden on AP and hardly reprinted in US media outlets.

This administration's consistently arrogant pattern of intentionally corrupt cronyism seriously makes my head assplode.

Crosshair: UN talks of "arms control and disarmament"

That's nice. This is not a UN position though.

disarming the law abiding people

And it is arms control at a national level, not a personal level - like pending nuclear deals with India and North Korea and an offer to negotiate with Iran over its disputed nuclear program.

But that barrow won't push itself, I guess :)

'I like that the you have sex with me, want a raise'?

What, are we saying that foreigners who can't speak english shouldn't be on said advisory panel, Monsieur Subby?

If there was any actual need for proof of Bush's absolute stupidity, incompetence and corruption, his continued support for worthless, pathetic moron Wolfowitz is it.

Wolfowitz?

Can't that fartknocker get job on his own? If it wasn't for Bush and Cheney, he'd be standing on the street corner outside the Heritage Foundation offices begging for quarters.

Nasty little comb-licker.

I bet he won't last in that position until Bush's term is over. Wolfowitz is a nut job. He will screw it up.

than

Can't the world send him to the vet to be put to sleep? He's a rabid dog.

Bonzo_1116: Wolfowitz?

Can't that fartknocker get job on his own? If it wasn't for Bush and Cheney, he'd be standing on the street corner outside the Heritage Foundation offices begging for quarters.

Rudy should hire him to hold signs whenever Ron Paul appears.

There's a silver bullet joke here somewhere but ya never heard that from me.

No siree.

And-1: That's nice. This is not a UN position though.

Yes, because only the UN has attempted "arms control" policies that have lead to a disarmed populace and genocide. *rolleyes*

And it is arms control at a national level, not a personal level - like pending nuclear deals with India and North Korea and an offer to negotiate with Iran over its disputed nuclear program.

Put that in the same category as "The Income Tax will only be applied to the wealthy", "Your Social Security Number will not be used as a form of identification", and "Iran was not given weapons for hostages."

I got more done in Model UN in high school/college than the actual UN.

Wolfie might as well be in charge of the United Federation of Care-Bears and Cabbage Patch Kids. Next on the agenda: whether Beanie Babies shall be admitted to the esteemed institution.

/BENEVOLENT DICTATORSHIP-PALM!

What's next John Bolton for Chief of Protocol?

spiderbarks: What's next John Bolton for Chief of Protocol?


God damn right...

Recall all Repuglikkkans: spiderbarks: What's next John Bolton for Chief of Protocol?

No, he's busy criticizing the intelligence communities after they published the NIE report making the administration look like numbskulls. Nothing like attacking the messenger when messages after message makes everything you've done look like something a brain-dead monkey wouldn't try. The neocons are instead telling us to trust their what's been called "faith-based intelligence gathering."

Oh, how I can't wait until 1/20/2009 and the end of this insanity.

Uhm, the NIE didn't really change anything. It confirmed that Iran was pursuing nukes up until 2003.. Now what could have happened in 2003 to cause Iran to not wantnooclear weapons so much... hmmmmm... it was something... hmmm

Well, anyway, until I remember what it was, keep in mind that the Iranians didn't actually change anything structural with their weapons program. They just moved the goalpost a little closer to "civilian grade" as opposed to "weapons grade". However, that's not really a significant downgrade because the only difference between weapons grade and civilian grade is a few more days in the centrifuges. That's the difference between a slow oozing emission, and *BOOOM* emission. Keep in mind also that we didn't find that out from the Iranians, we found that out through intelligence collection despite their continuous denial of any nuclear ambitions.

OH! I remembered what it was! "That '70s Show" got cancelled, that's what stopped them...

Enjoy your Oligarchy filled with idiots.

Phil Moskowitz: Enjoy your Oligarchy filled with idiots.

And enjoy your mother's minivan.

Crosshair: The problem is that UN talks of "arms control and disarmament" generally means governments disarming the law abiding people as a prelude to genocide or as a means of dictators to secure their power, as has/is happening in Kenya and Uganda. (All under UN supervision of course.)

Human Rights Atrocities: The Consequences of United Nations Gun Confiscation in East Africa (new window) Article is a PDF from 2006.

......Obote was restored to power in 1979, after Amin attacked Tanzania, and was toppled by the Tanzanian army. Obote again began to attempt to disarm the (Law abiding) Karamojong. His efforts were forcefully repelled. The Karamojong had learned that cows and guns are equally indispensable: a person needs a gun immediately at hand to protect one's herd. The most-armed tribes fared the best......

I bet you've seen more people backing slowly away from you than anyone else on fark.

Wingnut welfare. They can't make it on their own.

Crosshair: Yes, because only the UN has attempted "arms control" policies that have lead to a disarmed populace and genocide.

Um, what? And my local butcher has killed lambs too. What the fark are you talkign about?

Put that in the same category as "The Income Tax will only be applied to the wealthy", "Your Social Security Number will not be used as a form of identification", and "Iran was not given weapons for hostages."

hoo, boy. We got a live one. My tin foil hat, let me show you it.

Phil Moskowitz: I bet you've seen more people backing slowly away from you than anyone else on fark.

This is full of win.

SemperLieSuckah: Phil Moskowitz: Enjoy your Oligarchy filled with idiots.

And enjoy your mother's minivan.

I enjoyed your mother in a minivan, so I'm getting a real kick out of these replies...

Phil Moskowitz: I bet you've seen more people backing slowly away from you than anyone else on fark.

No, I'm just very skeptical that any political figure says. Arms control is a touchy subject because it has had disasterous consequences in the past. Over 100 million killed by their own governments in the 20th century, most of it perpetuated under the guise of good intentions. This position could very well lead Wolfowitz to a UN position if he plays his cards right.

Regardless of our differing ideologies, on this issue, I think we can all agree that Wolfowitz shouldn't be managing a McDonalds.

I also tend to sound more radical online than I really am. I have mostly Libertarian leanings. I try to follow the "You leave me alone, I leave you alone." I do tend to go a little overboard sometimes.

So how many times does this guy get to FAIL?

Crosshair: The problem is that UN talks of "arms control and disarmament" generally means governments disarming the law abiding people as a prelude to genocide or as a means of dictators to secure their power, as has/is happening in Kenya and Uganda. (All under UN supervision of course.)

Human Rights Atrocities: The Consequences of United Nations Gun Confiscation in East Africa (new window) Article is a PDF from 2006.

......Obote was restored to power in 1979, after Amin attacked Tanzania, and was toppled by the Tanzanian army. Obote again began to attempt to disarm the (Law abiding) Karamojong. His efforts were forcefully repelled. The Karamojong had learned that cows and guns are equally indispensable: a person needs a gun immediately at hand to protect one's herd. The most-armed tribes fared the best......

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cryptozoophiliac: SemperLieSuckah: Phil Moskowitz: Enjoy your Oligarchy filled with idiots.

And enjoy your mother's minivan.

I enjoyed your mother in a minivan, so I'm getting a real kick out of these replies...

Good, fat biatch needs some...

You have to have a proven track record of failure before they'll give you a high level job in international politics these days. It's like when they gave someone with a track record of starting and supporting wars in the Middle East the role of international Middle East peace envoy. What's Cheney's next job going to be? International gun safety advisor?

SemperLieSuckah: cryptozoophiliac: SemperLieSuckah: Phil Moskowitz: Enjoy your Oligarchy filled with idiots.

And enjoy your mother's minivan.

I enjoyed your mother in a minivan, so I'm getting a real kick out of these replies...

Good, fat biatch needs some...


Hmmmm...like mother like son: both fat biatches that need some.

/sorry, don't swing that way

cryptozoophiliac: SemperLieSuckah: cryptozoophiliac: SemperLieSuckah: Phil Moskowitz: Enjoy your Oligarchy filled with idiots.

And enjoy your mother's minivan.

I enjoyed your mother in a minivan, so I'm getting a real kick out of these replies...

Good, fat biatch needs some...


Hmmmm...like mother like son: both fat biatches that need some.

/sorry, don't swing that way

Whatever games you two play, I don't care to know.

binnster: You have to have a proven track record of failure before they'll give you a high level job in international politics these days. It's like when they gave someone with a track record of starting and supporting wars in the Middle East the role of international Middle East peace envoy. What's Cheney's next job going to be? International gun safety advisor?

I'm actually not incredibly familiar with Paul Wolfowitz, but whenever I see a leftist outcry against anyone in Bush's cabinet anymore I always presume their innocence. The reason for this being that no one is perfect, and when they do fark up, the press is sure to be up their ass about it, often misreporting it or blowing it out of proportion. The small amount of government work experience I have has shown me this.

/It was the same with Clinton, I don't play favorites.

cryptozoophiliac: I'm going to bed, so witty replies will have to wait until morning.

/g'night everyone

SemperLieSuckah:

I'm actually not incredibly familiar with Paul Wolfowitz, but whenever I see a leftist outcry against anyone in Bush's cabinet anymore I always presume their innocence.

1. I wouldn't actually describe myself as a leftist.
2. It's not only leftists who accuse the guy of sucking at his last two jobs.

"I'm actually not incredibly familiar with Paul Wolfowitz, but whenever I see a leftist outcry against anyone in Bush's cabinet anymore I always presume their innocence"

Damn if that's not the definition of a knee jerk reaction.

spiderbarks: "I'm actually not incredibly familiar with Paul Wolfowitz, but whenever I see a leftist outcry against anyone in Bush's cabinet anymore I always presume their innocence"

Damn if that's not the definition of a knee jerk reaction.

Yep, I was a bit left once upon a time. Then I turned 22 and realized that it was all just a bunch of idealistic crap. So yes, knee-jerks all around because I've been bullshiatted too many times by the democrats. I research most issues I feel strongly about pretty thoroughly and I read the Economist. But things like this, I trust the Bush administration more than I trust the Dems in the House and the Senate. That's less a statement of how much I like Bush, and more a statement of how witless and incompetent the Dems have shown themselves to be.

O.K. I'm just gonna have to brand you a troll. An arguement that far fetched can't be legit.

SemperLieSuckah:

things like this, I trust the Bush administration

Jesus. You must be from the Britney Spears' school of political science.

I'll put this here, too: (Just left it in another fark thread as well)

http://www.newstarget.com/022528.html

/p2nw/t

I'm with you, Crosshair. Let the rest of the monkeys continue to fling their poo, you and I will be better prepared.

Did Donald Rumsfeld turn the offer down or something? Talk about bottom of the rotten-apple barrel.

Stirring the Pot !
Bush\Darth Cheney!
Haliburton!
Rummy
Wolfowitz
Jeez Bush Derangement Syndrome is much more powerful than it's predecessor!
Must be due to Global Warming !

In my day it was a blue donkey everyone was protesting about.
Johnson
McNamara
Brown and Root [ now part of Haliburton ]
Anyone see a pattern here!

I'm not saying Despots should not get their Due especially if they threaten their neighbors or our military operating under UN mandated operations but it is rather obvious we are being milked for Billions while Congress is busy creating 13,000 ear marks to get re elected or pay off friends or hound lameheaded apointees no worse than themselves.


Common denominator $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
x more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Who was it said follow the money!
Maybe those in Congress that carry that copy of the constitution in their purse or pocket should get one with writing large enough to read.
Then repeal the 17th amendment.
That at least would be a start.


I Like Ike!

There it is fellers, the City on the Hill. This is the life the NRA has planned for you.

/Got no problem with the Karamojong, but I do like plumbing and electricity.

This guy is like shiat on our heel. Someone take a hose to it already.

SemperLieSuckah: I'm actually not incredibly familiar with Paul Wolfowitz

Start here:

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And here:

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And here:
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FTA
a conservative with close ties to the White House

...The only qualification you need for a job with the Bush administration.

Five years with using current knowledge of Wolfowitz's history, this might have received headlines.

Now it is just a, oh another bush crony with a bad history gets yet another position. No news here.

After all, when an Bush n Co have a number of major scandals and weekly minor scandals, a really questionable placement is not news.

So do they keep bush in a glass cube? Has he ever been exposed to opinion polls, what people thing that have not drank the cool-aid? I am not sure if he is just a well-managed puppet or has such a world vision that there is no changing course?

WTF? How bad does it have to get? I want to see what will happen in the last six months when he is in true lame duck mode.

/At this point it appears only the boldest freepers, nutcases, gop plants and trolls will post for bush.

Why isn't that son of a biatch in jail or hanging from a lamp post?

I'm actually not incredibly familiar with Paul Wolfowitz, but whenever I see a leftist outcry against anyone in Bush's cabinet anymore I always presume their innocence.

To expand on what Binnster said, the most voracious critics of Wolfowitz are from the "Old Right", the Taft wing of the Republican Party.

Know why?

Because the school of political thought that Wolfowitz comes from is a direct descendant of Trotskyism.

Un-farking-believeable. Like a dog to his vomit, so returns a fool to his folly.

If this doesn't prove that the nation is in dire danger until we get rid of Cheney and his dog Bush, I don't know what does. A proven incompetent, dishonest and dishonorable jackass recycled in a key position. Freaking marvelous.

"Impeachment is off the table". Up yours, Pelosi. Up yours, Reid.

ilambiquated
Got no problem with the Karamojong, but I do like plumbing and electricity.

Because you can't have civilian firearm ownership and those things?