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(ABC News) Unlikely Bill Clinton: Hillary was responsible for the "Buy America" program when she was on Wal-Mart's board. And with a stunning success like that, the issue is therefore closed   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 42
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NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 06:01:46 PM  
Since when is China spelled A-M-E-R-I-C-A?

 
Code_Archeologist [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 06:07:08 PM  
Thanks Bill for pointing out another failure your wife is responsible for. Lets see what is her score now...

Hillary: 1 (for winning a NY Senate Seat)
Fail: 5 (marriage, hillary care, voting to attack Iraq, voting to attack Iran, and now "Buy American")

 
AntonSzandorLaVey [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 07:39:24 PM  
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dionada [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 07:40:28 PM  
"Buy America"? I don't remember any ads like that.

Probably because they were shown exclusively in China. And apparently, they're working.

 
meat0918 2008-01-24 08:32:49 PM  
Wasn't this the same program thing that ended up with Wal-mart employees putting "Made in America" stickers over "Made in China"

 
Bill Frist 2008-01-24 08:36:16 PM  
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Corydon 2008-01-24 08:44:03 PM  
Man...the Bill and Hillary show is just getting embarrassing. I actually liked Bill Clinton as president and voted for him in '96. But at this point, I don't see how anyone could vote for Hillary.

If she wins the nomination, I predict a Republican in the White House, even if Ron Paul wins the nomination.

 
I_Approve_Of_This_Message 2008-01-24 08:44:08 PM  
If this is the best he can come up with going positive on Hillary, I can see why he's so eager to go negative on Obama.

 
Falcc 2008-01-24 08:58:36 PM  
I used to think Bill Clinton was the greatest president of my lifetime. Since I was born in 1989, he technically has been. But I just can't stand him anymore. I've pretty much always hated Hillary, begining with her support of noted crazy-old-coot Jack Thompson, and progressing through pretty much every action I've witnessed her take in office. Now Bill's acting the same way, and I realize he's not imitating his wife, she's imitaing him.

I suppose as we grow we either learn things like this or we vote for some republicrat nutjob who wants to bomb Iran. Such is life. It's just interesting that if he'd just sat this race out most people in my generation would have remembered him in such a positive light.

On the other hand, he probably hasn't gotten laid in almost a decade.

 
Bloody William 2008-01-24 09:04:07 PM  
There isn't a picture of a cat anywhere on the Internet that can accurately express the extent of "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG" here.

 
Superjoe 2008-01-24 09:05:46 PM  
"When she was asked to go on the board of Wal-Mart, they had no women in positions of management, and they had no environmental profile," he said during a campaign event in Lexington, S.C., Thursday. "And she was asked if she would serve and try to help them become more environmentally sensitive, and she agreed to do it."

Am I supposed to believe Wal*Mart cares about the environment, to the point of hiring Hillary because of it? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME?

 
EwoksSuck 2008-01-24 09:17:47 PM  
She did it for the little people and not for the big fat paycheck and stock options.

 
quatchi 2008-01-24 09:20:33 PM  
Even Wal-Mart's strongest critics agree that it's one of the leading forces for trying to help make America more economically independent on the energy front," he said, pointing to the company's sales of energy-efficient light bulbs and its effort this year to reduce packaging by 5 percent.

* S T R E T C H *

"We sell lightbulbs" and "we're trying to save money on packaging" does not equate to a serious attempt at promoting energy independence.

NOT a bright idea.

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Wal-Mart the eco-friendly green giant? Wotta dimbulb!

 
Paedophile_Deluxe 2008-01-24 09:34:47 PM  
Seeing as she's got the Walmart greeter vote totally locked up, I don't think they hated her too much.

 
The Why Not Guy [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 09:39:56 PM  
dionada: "Buy America"? I don't remember any ads like that.

The fact that you don't remember something doesn't mean it never happened. Wal-Mart's ad campaigns were built around the Buy American slogan for quite a while, and I'll take that over their current "Buy Chinese" policy any day.

 
Mantour 2008-01-24 09:40:49 PM  
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Mugato [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 09:41:03 PM  
All I know is that Bill lost his shiat yesterday when asked if Hillary's camp made comments about Obama's patriotism and religion. He ranted on some poor reporter for asking him about it.

 
dionada [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 09:47:20 PM  
The Why Not Guy: The fact that you don't remember something doesn't mean it never happened. Wal-Mart's ad campaigns were built around the Buy American slogan for quite a while, and I'll take that over their current "Buy Chinese" policy any day.

The slight "whoosh" sound you may have just heard was my (admittedly lame) joke flying right over your head.

Apologies for any disturbance I may have caused. :)

 
Shaggy_C 2008-01-24 09:48:11 PM  
I was planning to bash Wal-mart after entering the thread, but now I'm speechless due to Mantour's eloquently written post. What's the problem again? What are we talking about?

 
Gosling [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 09:54:16 PM  
"Buy Japanese! We're reliable!"
"Buy Chinese! We're inexpensive!"
"Buy European! We're stylish!"
"BUY AMERICAN OR THIS POOR BASTARD WILL BE OUT ON HIS ASS!"

 
CossackMossis 2008-01-24 10:09:30 PM  
Recall all Repuglikkkans: Mugato: All I know is that Bill lost his shiat yesterday when asked if Hillary's camp made comments about Obama's patriotism and religion. He ranted on some poor reporter for asking him about it.

Why should he be asked about it? He's not a part of Hillary's campaign, at least officially.


Kinda like how Cheney's not a part of the executive branch?

 
Fart_Machine 2008-01-24 10:31:27 PM  
If I recall Wal-Mart's "Buy American" campaign was busted for getting most of their manufactured goods from Saipan, a US Commomwealth exempt from labor laws that was using virtual slave labor.

It was all a scam and now they don't even hide the fact.

 
014789 2008-01-24 10:32:16 PM  
IAmAGodWarrior: walmart accounts for 1% of chinas GNP.
1% = farkload of $

great job hill, i guess all the machinists and the such can just get a job being a greeter/cashier/moran at walmart then.


machinists?! good one, more like assemblers of cheap plastic crap.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2008-01-24 10:36:44 PM  
Finally, we'll have a president who will stand up to China and the runaway corporate interests!!1

 
barneyfifesbullet 2008-01-24 11:28:29 PM  
After Wal Mart founder Sam Walton died, the 'Buy American' campaign went away fast (pops).

 
FuriousGeorge945 2008-01-24 11:30:15 PM  
FTA:
"The Obama campaign should be careful about throwing stones from their Rezko-built glass house," said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.

Holy shiat, did a Clinton spokesman REALLY just say that someone with past connections to shady real estate deals and seedy characters should think twice before attacking others?

That pot is a black farking hole compared to the kettle.

 
Nemo's Brother 2008-01-24 11:39:35 PM  
So Hillary is the reason why Wal-Mart imports more from China than any 5 European countries combined? Explains why she supported NAFTA. Afterall, who needs well-paying American Jobs when we can all buy crap at Wal-Mart off the sweat of Asian slaves?

/Bill just admitted that Hillary is the cause of all that is wrong with our economy?

 
chrisdmid 2008-01-24 11:46:06 PM  
Came up with "USA is AOK".

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/Can you remember your favorite theme?
//Can I? Amer I CAN!

 
RocketVat 2008-01-24 11:58:43 PM  
Oddly enough, I'm reading Sam Walton's "Made in America" autobiography right now, looking at a picture of Sam Walton's original handwritten draft of his plan to start the "Buy American" program.

Nice one Bill. Maybe you got caught up in the definition of whether hillary "is" the person who designed the program?

 
karmaceutical 2008-01-25 12:21:22 AM  
Wait wait, is it "Buy American" or "Buy America" ??

 
Curt Blizzah 2008-01-25 12:36:35 AM  
A ton of folks buy cheap Chinese products down the street at the second local Wally World; I doubt voters here, who generally vote GOP anyway, will really care unless they take the hypocrite approach. Most of us don't mind the convenience they provide, along with the other chain stores who tend to charge a ton more for classier merchandise. Personally, I hit up the Dollar General first for household items, whose prices are even lower, but rarely have a bunch of shoppers. Our new Everything's a Dollar has even products that I used to buy in Dollar General for cheaper (shampoos, soap, toilet paper, cleaning supplies, $1.00 big mylar balloons grocery store flower shops charge $5-10). Yes, I'm frugal, but how is that wrong?

Wal-Mart did grow into a giant selling a larger number of American products when Hillary was on the board from 1986-1992. As far as the great things she did while serving, I don't find any comments except for those from anti-Walmart folks. I know after Walton's death, the same year, coincidentally, Hillary left the board, higher profit margins were sought in a different direction than Walton originally envisioned. Sure, they've exploded exponentially due to their new practices, and hurt many ma and pops places, as well as former spots where locals would have gone. I can't blame Hillary for the push to those practices, however. She's gotta be sharp to be the sole lady on the board; if she was scratching their back, as was her job by taking the position, so be it.

Obama's did start the attacks; I really don't mind them, but don't think it won't come full-circle. You don't want to play attacks on the Clintons, as this lady can counteract and put the trouble back on your record. All of this is fair game; Hillary won't back down. While the Republican Debate singled her out on her beatability and took a few shots, they do so at their peril. And why wouldn't Bill be there to back her up? Don't like it, vote Obama.

Another thing, from hearing Obama and his debate responses on his ideal, I believe he will need a Clinton as an adviser at some point if he were to win the Presidency. She wouldn't need an Obama if she got elected, however, unless to make a balanced ticket as VP to keep Dem voters happy. She still holds more influence on policy and high marks in Washington circles than he would. Some may view it as a disadvantage, but there are things needed to be accomplished very early after an inauguration.

 
bwesb 2008-01-25 12:53:51 AM  
...if she was scratching their back, as was her job by taking the position, so be it.

[sarcasm]So she's a cawksucker, no big deal, make her President. It's been working for us so far.[/sarcasm]

 
Simplest Quantum System Conceivable 2008-01-25 01:09:39 AM  
FuriousGeorge945: FTA:
"The Obama campaign should be careful about throwing stones from their Rezko-built glass house," said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.

Holy shiat, did a Clinton spokesman REALLY just say that someone with past connections to shady real estate deals and seedy characters should think twice before attacking others?

That pot is a black farking hole compared to the kettle.


Alex Trebek: Mrs. Clinton the board is yours.
Hillary: Alex, I'll take political scandals 1980-1999.
Obama: Seriously?
Hillary: It's called experience. Watch and learn.

 
Simplest Quantum System Conceivable 2008-01-25 01:17:34 AM  
Recall all Repuglikkkans: I wonder if Carville is working on her campaign. He was a major force on Bill's campaign (like Rove was for Bush) and I wonder if Bill's acting the way he because Penn the big man behind Hillary.

I'd consider this a yes.

 
Nightmaretony 2008-01-25 02:21:17 AM  
Walmart back then sure as heck doesnt act like the Walmart of today.
How much of this abuse and Chinese crap was there during those years? How many Walmarts were in every neighborhood?
Walton's death, the same year, coincidentally, Hillary left the board



Well gee, maybe Hillary didn't agree with the kid's new direction to take the company?

Sam should have sent those idiots to boarding school. They made oodles of money at the expense of American enterprise and economy.

 
the_colonel 2008-01-25 04:38:09 AM  
Maybe ol' Bill is tanking Hillary's campaign on purpose. He continues to speak on issues that make Hillary look bad. Maybe when she looses the nomination, he'll say he did it on purpose because he can't stand the biatch either.

 
equilibrium 2008-01-25 08:16:32 AM  
Curt Blizzah: She's gotta be sharp to be the sole lady on the board; if she was scratching their back, as was her job by taking the position, so be it.

Wal*Mart is based in Bentonville, AR. Hillary was the wife of the then governor of AR. Do the math.

Also, Wal*Mart appears to have mysteriously eluded the corporate anti-trust probes that occurred during the Clinton administration. I wonder how that happened...

I've been to Wal*Mart HQ. I've never seen a more soul sucking work environment. I'd compare it to working in my basement but my basement has one window and no security cameras. I've been to a lot of corporate HQs and I have never seen anything like Wal*Mart.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2008-01-25 10:12:57 AM  
Superjoe: "When she was asked to go on the board of Wal-Mart, they had no women in positions of management, and they had no environmental profile," he said during a campaign event in Lexington, S.C., Thursday. "And she was asked if she would serve and try to help them become more environmentally sensitive, and she agreed to do it."

Am I supposed to believe Wal*Mart cares about the environment, to the point of hiring Hillary because of it? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME?


Yes, I think he's expecting us to be that stupid.

Wal-Mart VP, circa 1986: "You know, we really could use a woman on our Board of Directors. Someone that's environmentally conscious, to help us be a better, more environmentally-friendly company."

Wal-Mart CEO: "Yeah, that's a good idea. Hey, I've been hearing a lot about this Hillary Rodham Clinton. We should see if she's available to help us out."

Wal-Mart VP: "Oh, and did you know that she's married to the Governor of our state?"

Wal-Mart CEO: "Why, no, I did not realize that. Huh. Well, I'm sure no one will think that we asked her to be on our board simply because of that!"

Wal-Mart VP: "No, not at all. It's just that she's perfect for the job. We can't help it if she's married to the Governor, now can we?"

 
Curt Blizzah 2008-01-25 11:26:24 AM  
equilibrium

Wal*Mart is based in Bentonville, AR. Hillary was the wife of the then governor of AR. Do the math.

Also, Wal*Mart appears to have mysteriously eluded the corporate anti-trust probes that occurred during the Clinton administration. I wonder how that happened...


Yeah, the math does work, but many spouses of politicians who are given cushy jobs usu. involve funneling money/payoffs to the elected representative. Like DeLays wife in TX, as an example. She made calls on behalf of her employer and asked what party affiliation those answered were. She made in excess of $120,000 a year for it. Not sure if that happened or not in Hillary's case; seems like you wouldn't put someone on the board were she not very qualified. She could just be given a made-up title with a big salary.

Wal-Mart has avoided any number of anti-trust laws, but to blame the Clinton administration for it is a tough sell. If someone can cite how they interfered in prosecutions against the giant, I'd read.

I'll say it once again: I don't like harmful corporations, and any who profit off of things such as oil wars and weapons manufacturing shouldn't be represented in our government if our country wants a good standing in the world. However, corporations are a reality in this country. They give people jobs and produce things people use. We should elect folks who will watch out for regular folks, children, and the elderly, but also make sure corporations follow laws by government oversight, yet still employ our people and operate safely.

 
spiderpaz 2008-01-25 12:00:43 PM  
Isn't Bill's being the governor of the state at the time she was on the board of the Arkansas based company a conflict of interests? Hmmmm, I wonder WHY they offered her the job.

 
Sultan Of Herf 2008-01-25 12:21:00 PM  
Lando Lincoln: Superjoe: "When she was asked to go on the board of Wal-Mart, they had no women in positions of management, and they had no environmental profile," he said during a campaign event in Lexington, S.C., Thursday. "And she was asked if she would serve and try to help them become more environmentally sensitive, and she agreed to do it."

Am I supposed to believe Wal*Mart cares about the environment, to the point of hiring Hillary because of it? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME?

Yes, I think he's expecting us to be that stupid.

Wal-Mart VP, circa 1986: "You know, we really could use a woman on our Board of Directors. Someone that's environmentally conscious, to help us be a better, more environmentally-friendly company."

Wal-Mart CEO: "Yeah, that's a good idea. Hey, I've been hearing a lot about this Hillary Rodham Clinton. We should see if she's available to help us out."

Wal-Mart VP: "Oh, and did you know that she's married to the Governor of our state?"

Wal-Mart CEO: "Why, no, I did not realize that. Huh. Well, I'm sure no one will think that we asked her to be on our board simply because of that!"

Wal-Mart VP: "No, not at all. It's just that she's perfect for the job. We can't help it if she's married to the Governor, now can we?"


OR

Bill Clinton: Hey, my wife needs a job. Something high paying, with a great title, something to look good on paper, but with no real work or responsibility.

Walmart CEO: ummmm...

Walmart VP: ummmm...

Bill Clinton: You guys do remember in the governor right?

Walmart CEO: Well we could put her on the board, let her talk alot, maybe take credit for some big idea, but otherwise ognore her.

Walmart VP: yeah we could do that.

Bill CLinton: Great! I knew you guys would be on board.

(after Bill leaves)

Walmart VP: How about we let hher take credit for something that sounds good but might not work, that way if it tanks, its all her.

Walmart CEO: Let the govs self centered biatch attention whore wife take credit for our bad ideas!?!? BRILLIANT!!!

Walmart VP: BRILLIANT!

 
prjindigo 2008-01-25 12:36:36 PM  
FuriousGeorge945: FTA:
"The Obama campaign should be careful about throwing stones from their Rezko-built glass house," said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.

Holy shiat, did a Clinton spokesman REALLY just say that someone with past connections to shady real estate deals and seedy characters should think twice before attacking others?

That pot is a black farking hole compared to the kettle.


If you actually read PRINT in any real article about the Clinton's "real estate" involvement you'll discover that A: "no real estate was involved" and B: "the Clintons got screwed like a horney grandmother"

grow up, read shiat for yourself THEN come back and post, the whole story about the Clintons comitting crimes was REFUTED BY ITS OWN AUTHOR.

 
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