Right, because they are doing such a better job than the NEOCONS.

Another eighty years of the same shiat.

Freeper_Madness: When the impeached Clintons get the dem nomination, and they most certainly will, EVERY democrat member of congress who's running for election/re-election will be in trouble - democrat governors as well.

Two words: Coat Tails

If Hillary does get the nomination, should the headline read "Lick it, cons" ?

Meh. Lucky Democrats. They may capture the Congress and the White House in 2008, but it'll take decades to fix the mess Bush and the Republicans left behind.

/National debt.
//Budget deficits.
///Iraq War.
////Tarnished international reputation.
//Running out of slashes.

AirForceVet: Meh. Lucky Democrats. They may capture the Congress and the White House in 2008, but it'll take decades to fix the mess Bush and the Republicans left behind.

/National debt.
//Budget deficits.
///Iraq War.
////Tarnished international reputation.
//Running out of slashes.

Yeah, but we might get a check for a couple of hundred bucks thanks to Bush! Hooray! That will fix the economy.

I'd rather see us elect a slate of 3 party candidates. I really don't care WHICH third party gets elected either (although I do have my preferences).

Electing more of the same over and over and over again will only get us more of the same. Do you really think that any of these partsian hacks is going to make a difference? Because I think that once they get to D.C. they're going to do whatever it takes to STAY inside the beltway and not pay any attention to the people that sent them there.

Doesn't matter what party is in control, politians, from either party, will sell you to the devil if they thought they could get $.02 out of the deal. You are only fooling yourself if you think they are serving your best interest. So by all means, go out and vote for the liar who most appeals to you.

AirForceVet: //Running out of slashes.

Borrow some from China.

minoridiot: Doesn't matter what party is in control, politians, from either party, will sell you to the devil if they thought they could get $.02 out of the deal. You are only fooling yourself if you think they are serving your best interest. So by all means, go out and vote for the liar who most appeals to you.

Obama appeals to me.

/can you imagine an Obama/Bloomberg ticket? It's a possibility. They have both made ominous references to "bridging the divide" between parties

People are mad at Republicans so they are voting for Democrats who are worse.

If Ron Paul wasn't supportive of the not so FairTax™ scheme, I'd vote for him.

AirForceVet: Meh. Lucky Democrats. They may capture the Congress and the White House in 2008, but it'll take decades to fix the mess Bush and the Republicans left behind.

I'm gonna have to point something out on this one. They were given the majorities they needed to pass legislation in the last election because they ran on a rather large platform of things they were going to get DONE if they were put into power in the house. THe list of those things which actually got done however, is a different story.

Adding to their majority isn't going to change it that much. And if they controlled the pork they could get things past the president. Instead what we will hear now is "well we couldn't do anything with a Republican president.. give us a Democratic one!" which is in stark contrast to the promises of "big changes once we have both houses of congress."

The fact is neither party is affecting much change one way or the other.

My suggestion to change things would be simple. Remove ALL references to party from ballots so that people have to know who they are voting for, not just what party an individual is in. This means no "vote straight party ticket". Also, set one standard that a candidate must pass to get on the presidential ballot in all 50 states.

I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching Fascism. Where did the Old School democrats go? Here's to Woodrow Wilson, the first Socialist president of the united states, who single-handedly corrupted the Democratic party into socialist liberals.

No, I don't need government telling me what's good for me and what's not. No, I do NOT want to learn to speak NewSpeak 5.0.

I miss the old school democrats. But since they're now extinct, I vote Republican. I vote Guiliani.

jaedreth: I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching Fascism.

Exactly!

jaedreth: Where did the Old School democrats go?

They hang out with the Old School Republicans who couldn't care less what people did behind closed doors, actually gave a shiat about the environment, and wouldn't question science that's been settled for 150 years just to pander to their "base."

jaedreth: I miss the old school democrats. But since they're now extinct, I vote Republican. I vote Guiliani.

What!? How did you get through that labyrinthian clusterf*ck of logic and wind up with that mummified crook?

jaedreth: I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching Fascism.

SpeshilEdjukashin: Exactly!

How so? Warrantless wiretapping? Lying and obfuscating to go to war? Signing statements? Just exactly how are they becoming fascists?

Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers the individual subordinate to the interests of the state, party or society as a whole. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. The key attribute is intolerance of others: other religions, languages, political views, economic systems, cultural practices, etc. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.[wiki]



Tell me, jaedreth, are you also one of those people who fling around the nonsensical term islamofascism?

/irregardless of its lacking a definition? (heh-heh)

thamike: Tell me, jaedreth, are you also one of those people who fling around the nonsensical term islamofascism?

He doesn't fling, he dittos.

A$$man: Right, because they are doing such a better job than the NEOCONS.

Another eighty years of the same shiat.

THIS

Freeper_Madness: When the impeached Clintons get the dem nomination, and they most certainly will, EVERY democrat member of congress who's running for election/re-election will be in trouble - democrat governors as well.

Two words: Coat Tails

When was Hillary impeached? I musta missed that one, Afternoon_Delight...

It doesn't matter who gets elected, they'll bow to the pro-war industry until Wall Street makes them stop running up the federal deficit.

Freeper_Madness: Two words: Coat Tails

Wrong two words; it's 'straight-ticket voters' (or is that 3 words?) People voting against Hillary will hurt the entire party, all the way down the line.

I, for one, welcome my new ________ overlords...

So help me God, that line never gets old.

/not being sarcastic

thamike: /irrearegardless of its lacking a definition? (heh-heh)

/pet peeve :)

jaedreth: I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching Fascism.

You might want to look up the definition of Fascism again and check out where it falls on the political compass. I'll give you a clue. If you keep looking left you're doing it wrong.

fascism - A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.

jaedreth: I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching leaving Fascism.

Fixed. Well, mostly, I don't think we're moving far enough from fascism.

alonzinator: /pet peeve :)

That was the joke. It's been ongoing on Fark for the past couple of days.

Carth: You might want to look up the definition of Fascism again and check out where it falls on the political compass. I'll give you a clue. If you keep looking left you're doing it wrong.

Maybe he's worried that if you go too far left, you come back around to the other side. :)

QU!RK1019: Maybe he's worried that if you go too far left, you come back around to the other side. :)

I thought that's how one gets to China...

Did some say...


vunerable seats?

/Spell check vulnerable

Freeper_Madness: When the impeached Clintons get the dem nomination,

May I have a sip of your Kool-Aid, cause it's must be better than the shiat I'm smoking.

I don't want both the white house and the congress to be the same party. Republicans or democrats, we've all seen how well that works out.


A 50/50 congressional split is most ideal, because no matter who occupies the white house, senators will act like petulant children and nothing will get done, which is the best possible outcome for this country.

SpeshilEdjukashin People are mad at Republicans so they are voting for Democrats who are worse.

It must really suck to root for a team that has farked things up so badly that all you have left is lies. Really, you have nothing.

/Americans imprisoned without charges
//secret prisons
///torture
////wiretaps of 200 million+ US phone calls
//lied into a futile war of occupation, 4000+ US troops dead
//aaaand somehow the Democrats are worse. Got it.

Weaver95: I'd rather see us elect a slate of 3 party candidates. I really don't care WHICH third party gets elected either (although I do have my preferences).

Vote Constitution Party '08 - where you can praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

Mr. Horse: /Americans imprisoned without charges
//secret prisons
///torture
////wiretaps of 200 million+ US phone calls
//lied into a futile war of occupation, 4000+ US troops dead
//aaaand somehow the Democrats are worse. Got it.

Bill Clinton received fellatio in the oval office, ruining the prestige of the presidency and damaging family values for generations to come.

Mr. Horse: /Americans imprisoned without charges
//secret prisons
///torture
////wiretaps of 200 million+ US phone calls
//lied into a futile war of occupation, 4000+ US troops dead
//aaaand somehow the Democrats are worse. Got it.

I don't see Hillary or anyone else on the DNC slate of candidates doing much about anything you listed.

LocalCynic: Weaver95: I'd rather see us elect a slate of 3 party candidates. I really don't care WHICH third party gets elected either (although I do have my preferences).

Vote Constitution Party '08 - where you can praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

The American Fascist Party - because it's just more efficient, damnit.

jaedreth: I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching Fascism.

Yer farkin' kidding with that right?

The Neo-Con-Artists have slid the country closer to facism than it's ever been in it's entire history but it's really the Dems who are moving "so far left"?

Clue to Jaedreth: There's NO left left in the Democratic party with the exception of Dennis Kucinich.

The Neo-Con-Artists have moved the country so far to the right that you can't even see left from where you are standing right now w/o a pair of really strong binoculars.

The Reps have privitised the military and outsourced spying on the American people, lied their way into a war which benefits BigOil and is destroying the America's economy and reputation but the real problem is the Dems according to you?!

Wot flavor is the Kool-ade today?

Koo-Koo-nut flavor? How very tropical!

Democrats are still thinking they've got everything already laid out for them. voters aren't quite as stupid as they think, especially independents.

I do not welcome our new Democrat overlords because they are moving Liberalism so far left it is rapidly approaching Fascism. Where did the Old School democrats go? Here's to Woodrow Wilson, the first Socialist president of the united states, who single-handedly corrupted the Democratic party into socialist liberals.

No, I don't need government telling me what's good for me and what's not. No, I do NOT want to learn to speak NewSpeak 5.0.

I miss the old school democrats. But since they're now extinct, I vote Republican. I vote Guiliani.
WTF? That's like saying I'm afraid of mercury in my fish, that's why I eat Tuna.

thamike: That was the joke. It's been ongoing on Fark for the past couple of days.

The pet peeve joke has been around longer and it is called a Rotsky

revskippy: I'm gonna have to point something out on this one. They were given the majorities they needed to pass legislation in the last election because they ran on a rather large platform of things they were going to get DONE if they were put into power in the house. THe list of those things which actually got done however, is a different story.

Ummm... last I looked, it took 60 to get legislation through the Senate. Democrats have 51 seats. According to some sources, the Republicans in the senate have filibustered a record 62 times in the 110th congress.

Plus, the Deomcrats would need a two thirds majority to override a veto.

alonzinator: The pet peeve joke has been around longer and it is called a Rotsky

I thought the Rotsky was a misspelled homonym.

/their, they're, there; lose, loose...

thamike: I thought the Rotsky was a misspelled homonym.

The better one came in a later thread about Bush's secret phone number - someone asked 'Is it 867-5309?' to which the guy pasted a bit of the FARQ about posting private information and told the poster to 'enjoy your ban'. Good stuff!

miss the old school democrats. But since they're now extinct, I vote Republican. I vote Guiliani.


With logic like this out there ... is there any wonder why we got 8 years of Dubya?

QU!RK1019: Carth: You might want to look up the definition of Fascism again and check out where it falls on the political compass. I'll give you a clue. If you keep looking left you're doing it wrong.

Maybe he's worried that if you go too far left, you come back around to the other side. :)

Why do you think they call them "revolutions"?

Shaggy_C: Bill Clinton received fellatio in the oval office, ruining the prestige of the presidency and damaging family values for generations to come.

How did that affect you? How does something two consenting adults do affect your life?

I love how people get their panties in a bunch when other people do stuff that has nothing to do with them.

alonzinator: I love how people get their panties in a bunch when other people do stuff that has nothing to do with them.

I'll probably never be waterboarded by a federal agent, and yet I find the practice disturbing and abhorrent.

So does that make me a fussbudget?

jso2897: QU!RK1019: Carth: You might want to look up the definition of Fascism again and check out where it falls on the political compass. I'll give you a clue. If you keep looking left you're doing it wrong.

Maybe he's worried that if you go too far left, you come back around to the other side. :)

Why do you think they call them "revolutions"?

Well played, good sir.

Weaver95: I'll probably never be waterboarded by a federal agent, and yet I find the practice disturbing and abhorrent.

I guess you missed this part of my question:

alonzinator: How does something two consenting adults do affect your life?

I wouldn't say that both parties are consenting in waterboarding.

alonzinator: Weaver95: I'll probably never be waterboarded by a federal agent, and yet I find the practice disturbing and abhorrent.

I guess you missed this part of my question:

alonzinator: How does something two consenting adults do affect your life?

I wouldn't say that both parties are consenting in waterboarding.

The CIA assumes consent is implied and acts accordingly.