I am happy he is, we don't need no stinking Real ID - I for one appreciate the time some native has put into creating a classy colorful bolo. The ones Conrad Burns wear are cheesy. Get your bolos straight submitter

The sad thing is that a majority of regular citizens can't (or won't) understand just WHY this 'real ID' crap is bad for them. How can you fight for your rights when most people aren't even aware they're losing them in the first place?

This country is going to sleep its way into chaos.

State Legislation Rejecting REAL ID (17 total)

* Tennessee, SJR 0248 (enrolled June 14, 2007)
* South Carolina, S 449 enrolled June 5, 2007)
* Nebraska, (adopted May 30, 2007)
* New Hampshire, HB 685 (adopted May 24, 2007)
* Oklahoma, SB 464 (approved May 23, 2007)
* Illinois, HJR 0027 (adopted May 22, 2007)
* Missouri, HCR 20 (adopted May 17, 2007)
* Nevada, AJR 6 (enrolled May 14, 2007)
* Colorado, HJR 1047 signed May 14, 2007)
* Georgia, SB 5 (signed May 11, 2007)
* Hawaii, SCJ 31 (adopted April 25, 2007)
* North Dakota, SCR 4040 (signed April 20, 2007)
* Washington (signed April 18, 2007)
* Montana, HB 287 (signed April 17, 2007)
* Arkansas, SCR 22 (signed March 28, 2007)
* Idaho, HJM 3 (signed March 12, 2007)
* Maine, SP 113 (adopted January 25, 2007)

Link (new window)

My state is on that list, how about everyone else? Talk to your state reps.

Crosshair That link was/is very imformative, thanks.

Crosshair: State Legislation Rejecting REAL ID (17 total)

* Tennessee, SJR 0248 (enrolled June 14, 2007)
* South Carolina, S 449 enrolled June 5, 2007)
* Nebraska, (adopted May 30, 2007)
* New Hampshire, HB 685 (adopted May 24, 2007)
* Oklahoma, SB 464 (approved May 23, 2007)
* Illinois, HJR 0027 (adopted May 22, 2007)
* Missouri, HCR 20 (adopted May 17, 2007)
* Nevada, AJR 6 (enrolled May 14, 2007)
* Colorado, HJR 1047 signed May 14, 2007)
* Georgia, SB 5 (signed May 11, 2007)
* Hawaii, SCJ 31 (adopted April 25, 2007)
* North Dakota, SCR 4040 (signed April 20, 2007)
* Washington (signed April 18, 2007)
* Montana, HB 287 (signed April 17, 2007)
* Arkansas, SCR 22 (signed March 28, 2007)
* Idaho, HJM 3 (signed March 12, 2007)
* Maine, SP 113 (adopted January 25, 2007)

Link (new window)

My state is on that list, how about everyone else? Talk to your state reps.

I am glad my state rejected real id. I'm even happier I already have a passport so I can continue to fly once they stop accepting drivers license from those states.

Crosshair: My state is on that list, how about everyone else? Talk to your state reps.

It's nice to see both 'red' and 'blue' states on that list. I'm glad to see that the major party talking points haven't completely dominated local politics.

lakefivedi: Crosshair That link was/is very imformative, thanks.

Your welcome.

Shaggy_C: It's nice to see both 'red' and 'blue' states on that list. I'm glad to see that the major party talking points haven't completely dominated local politics.

It sure is.

REAL ID is REALLY unneccessary and a RELLY bad idea as well.

FTFA: A DHS policy maker suggested earlier this week that Real IDs could also be required to buy cold medicine and to prove employment eligibility.

Terrorists getting high on Nyquill a real problem fer DHS or sommat?

Maybe Chertoff is just pissed at his local pharmacy running out b/c AQ was in the store just five minutes earlier and cleaned them outta the stuff every time Mikey goes in fer a snootfull.

/Wot does Hannah Montana think about all this?

RELLY = REALLY, obviously.

I love this state :)

quatchi: Terrorists getting high on Nyquill a real problem fer DHS or sommat?

They've been taking info and tracking people who purchase anything with psuedoephedrine in it for a while in the midwest. People are using decongestants to make meth, and we all suffer for it. It's kind of ridiculous...

Shaggy_C: quatchi: Terrorists getting high on Nyquill a real problem fer DHS or sommat?

They've been taking info and tracking people who purchase anything with psuedoephedrine in it for a while in the midwest. People are using decongestants to make meth, and we all suffer for it. It's kind of ridiculous...

kinda makes you wonder why the drug companies don't change their product lines to make things more difficult for the meth cookers.

Weaver95: kinda makes you wonder why the drug companies don't change their product lines to make things more difficult for the meth cookers.

That's a tough call; it's a very effective decongestant but it has the possibility for abuse. I think the better idea would have been requiring prescription for psuedoephedrine, but I think the drug lobby knocked that one down at the national level. So, the states were forced to either ban the substance or find some other way to track it.

Nice to see the lonely and oft-derided 10th Amendment being invoked for this. If the ACLU gets involved in litigation over this, that'll put them in an interesting spot, as they usually argue against the 10th meaning anything anymore. You know, all that awkward "States' Rights" stuff.

Weaver95: kinda makes you wonder why the drug companies don't change their product lines to make things more difficult for the meth cookers.

I don't even know how meth users can afford it. Shiat is expensive.

/decongestants never work for me anyways

Son of God: It'd be a pretty bad idea - when you want a decongestant, you want it immediately.

They make plenty that don't have psuedoephedrine. Plus, with the current registration policy, you can only get it from a pharmacist, which means even at a 24 hour place like CVS, it is unavailable during hours when the pharmacy is closed. It's like needing a de facto prescription...

Schweitzer needs to run for prez in 2012... after the dems blow this this year by nominating Hillary. I've got nothing but respect for that guy... and the strange thing is that a lot of republicans in that state agree with me.

Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington have all passed bills opposing it.
With Alaska, Arizona, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, D.C., West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming also considering bills at present.

That's 39 of 50 states are opposed to it.

Weaver95: kinda makes you wonder why the drug companies don't change their product lines to make things more difficult for the meth cookers.

laziness? That's the only thing I can think of.

Son of God: Well, considering I worked in a pharmacy for the last 2 years before moving to go to university, the pharmacist had nothing to do with getting pseudoephedrine. The customer just had to show us an ID and then we wrote that down in a form along with how much they were buying.

Maybe the laws differ from state to state, but in Indiana you couldn't buy it unless the pharmacist got it for you. Luckily, Illinois is a little more lenient heh...

Crosshair: State Legislation Rejecting REAL ID (17 total)

* Tennessee, SJR 0248 (enrolled June 14, 2007)
* South Carolina, S 449 enrolled June 5, 2007)
* Nebraska, (adopted May 30, 2007)
* New Hampshire, HB 685 (adopted May 24, 2007)
* Oklahoma, SB 464 (approved May 23, 2007)
* Illinois, HJR 0027 (adopted May 22, 2007)
* Missouri, HCR 20 (adopted May 17, 2007)
* Nevada, AJR 6 (enrolled May 14, 2007)
* Colorado, HJR 1047 signed May 14, 2007)
* Georgia, SB 5 (signed May 11, 2007)
* Hawaii, SCJ 31 (adopted April 25, 2007)
* North Dakota, SCR 4040 (signed April 20, 2007)
* Washington (signed April 18, 2007)
* Montana, HB 287 (signed April 17, 2007)
* Arkansas, SCR 22 (signed March 28, 2007)
* Idaho, HJM 3 (signed March 12, 2007)
* Maine, SP 113 (adopted January 25, 2007)

Link (new window)

My state is on that list, how about everyone else? Talk to your state reps.


Unfortunately, it appears that my state (Virginia) has/had been pushing for it.

Not surprisingly, most of those states listed have also introduced anti-NAU legislation.



stopthenau.org (pops)

Crosshair: My state is on that list, how about everyone else? Talk to your state reps.

Anti-REAL ID legislation in the states:


I already contacted my rep in Minnesota last week. If you're in a gray, blue, yellow state, do the same.

Steaming Cup of SARS: Unfortunately, it appears that my state (Virginia) has/had been pushing for it.
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Somehow a state that supports un-constitutional parking fines would support this mess doesn't suprise me at all.

BTW, Thanks for the link.

Shaggy_C: Son of God: It'd be a pretty bad idea - when you want a decongestant, you want it immediately.

They make plenty that don't have psuedoephedrine. Plus, with the current registration policy, you can only get it from a pharmacist, which means even at a 24 hour place like CVS, it is unavailable during hours when the pharmacy is closed. It's like needing a de facto prescription...

Psudoephedrine is the only decongestant I use, because it is the only one that works without completely shutting off my brain for the day. When I lived in TN, there were no problems with buying it. Here in MO, it's held behind the customer service desk and you have to show ID to buy it. Not a huge deal but somewhat inconvenient.

* Hawaii, SCJ 31 (adopted April 25, 2007)

I like my state's Legislature doing something right for once, but one TSA stops accepting Hawaii ID's, we'll need passports just to leave the state.

I'll agree with subby that the bollo tie has to go. As for the NAU, Real ID and the NAFTA Superhighway, thats all in motion. My own brother has been doing the surveying for the Superhighway down in Texass. He says property rights are pretty much null and void when it comes to someones property.

RealID is a bad, flawed idea. That said, even the states who are right now opposed to it will eventually do it when either:

1. Their residents start complaining they can't get access to federal buildings, open bank accounts or fly domestically.

or

2. The feds take away all their federal highway funding

It's just a matter of time.

Steaming Cup of SARS: Not surprisingly, most of those states listed have also introduced anti-NAU legislation.

b-b-but everyone keeps telling me that NAU is just a konspeeracy theery!!?

/Loves living in Montana

My Sovereign Republic of South Carolina has already passed that law. Will our Federalism Run Amuck claims be ignored yet again?

I'm right there with him but kee-rist that is a dumb tie.

He looks like he's about to explain why Xenu loves me.