So the police dog was inadvertently released... who selected the target for it? If it goes for a target without it either being obvious (non-policeman with a gun for example) or his handler somehow indicating it, it's not a police dog...

It's a vicious animal that needs to be put down. Period.

HANK: You've got to believe me, Ladybird is not prejudiced.
MACK: I know she's not prejudiced. She's racist!
DALE: Yep.
BILL: Yep.
BOOMHAUER: Yep.
HANK: My dog is a racist.

When this happens in Philly, the police always arrest the maulee for resisting arrest.

Amateurs.

Freeper_Madness: FTFA: Bodo is an experienced Lakeland police dog, Gillen said. Later Friday, he aided Sealey in a drug case by inspecting a car.

Perhaps I was mistaken. Apparently the dog was permitted to continue working after an unprovoked attack on a little girl. Maybe it's those who failed to relieve it of duty pending investigation that need to be put down.

AndreMA: So the police dog was inadvertently released... who selected the target for it? If it goes for a target without it either being obvious (non-policeman with a gun for example) or his handler somehow indicating it, it's not a police dog...

It's a vicious animal that needs to be put down. Period.

Because its a cop dog?....

I thought so.

AndreMA: Freeper_Madness: FTFA: Bodo is an experienced Lakeland police dog, Gillen said. Later Friday, he aided Sealey in a drug case by inspecting a car.

Perhaps I was mistaken. Apparently the dog was permitted to continue working after an unprovoked attack on a little girl. Maybe it's those who failed to relieve it of duty pending investigation that need to be put down.

Lets put you down o'l girl.

A$$man:
Because its a cop dog?....

I thought so.

No, because it mauled a human outside the very specific and limited bounds where that's considered appropriate.

A dog owned by a private citizen that mauled someone without cause should be put down as well. That same dog mauling someone engaged in the attempted rape of a member of the household that own it shouldn't.

It's not hard to understand.

AndreMA: A$$man:
Because its a cop dog?....

I thought so.

No, because it mauled a human outside the very specific and limited bounds where that's considered appropriate.

A dog owned by a private citizen that mauled someone without cause should be put down as well. That same dog mauling someone engaged in the attempted rape of a member of the household that own it shouldn't.

It's not hard to understand.

I don't think you understand that dog is a working dog without human emotions. The police dogs job is to be aggressive.

Most dogs are aggressive, a family dog is going to protect its master, thats just the way dogs are and as much as you would like to think that they should not be aggressive... ever, they will be.

Now run along little snowflake, I might end up calling you a troll and hurt your feelings.

A$$man:

I don't think you understand that dog is a working dog without human emotions. The police dogs job is to be aggressive.

You are correct; the dog is (ideally) an emotionless tool. That tool malfunctioned and attacked someone inappropriately. Given the potential for injuries, continuing to use an apparently defective tool is irresponsible.

The dogs job is to be aggressive^*under strict control of the human operator. It apparently wasn't here. I suppose the operator could be at fault, but I have a feeling it's more likely the dog.

^* Also apparently sniffing for drugs, but that's not particularly relevant here.

Now run along little snowflake, I might end up calling you a troll and hurt your feelings.

You've already called me "little snowflake" and "o'l gal" - particularly amusing because I'm male (Andre + MA (as in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts)). I'll refrain from obvious jokes questioning your sexuality and assume it was a simple error by a simple person.

the dog and it's handler should both be put down..... because they're cops.....


/FTP

More constructively, I'm intrigued by the control that was bumped. I assume it emits a sound (possibly ultrasonic) that the dog has been trained to interpret as a signal to attack.

If casually bumping the shirt pocket is enough to accidentally trigger it, perhaps that control needs to be redesigned such that it needs a firm squeeze or something to activate... prevent such accidents in the future, without slowing the signal when intended.

real shaman: the dog and it's handler should both be put down..... because they're cops.....


/FTP

EABOD

TA-DA!

A$$"man" dont you have a better war to go enlist in, Internet Tough Guy?

six stitches requires crutches? Pansy. On a positive note.....momma won't have to worry bout no mo code violations in the new digs she'll get after the settlement.

I'd assume (yes, assume) that if the emergency release is triggered, the dog is trained to go after whoever is closest to the handler.

The dog probably acted (at least initially) in accordance with its training. Putting down the dog for behaving as trained would be cruel.

Also, who the hell gets close enough to a cop to hit them with a swinging limb? If I'm talking to a cop, the last thing I'm going to do is flail an arm at them!

Excellent

AndreMA: "I'm intrigued by the control that was bumped. I assume it emits a sound (possibly ultrasonic) that the dog has been trained to interpret as a signal to attack."

Is reading the article too much trouble for your massive intellect...?

vicious dog thread!

Sounds like a big payday for that young lady.... Hope she gets it! Dumbass Police....

Unsung_Hero: I'd assume (yes, assume) that if the emergency release is triggered, the dog is trained to go after whoever is closest to the handler.

This has definite possibilities in the World O' Hardcore Practical Jokes. Definite possibilities.

Yep, add that one to the pile of spare time designs.

Envision the chaos when the cops are standing around the K9 cars, and all the access devices open, one after another. OM NOM NOM NOM...

/gander sauce, best served cold

She wouldn't have got bit if she hadn't been black near a cop.

/went there

not impressed

AndreMA: Freeper_Madness: FTFA: Bodo is an experienced Lakeland police dog, Gillen said. Later Friday, he aided Sealey in a drug case by inspecting a car.

Perhaps I was mistaken. Apparently the dog was permitted to continue working after an unprovoked attack on a little girl. Maybe it's those who failed to relieve it of duty pending investigation that need to be put down.

Damn...and the killed the tiger that attacked a few people...even though the tiger was provoked...looks like this dog just deicided it was hungry for dark meat instead of going to it's handler's side...where's the justice??

FTA:: "I don't believe any changes will be employed because of this," he said. "The dog was doing what it was trained to do. The girl was unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was a freak accident."

So just because its a Cop dog everyone should be OKAY with it biting someone when it WASNT suppose to?
Oh okay... I get it.

The stupidity is in keeping the release device in a place where in can be accidentally triggered.

AndreMA: A$$man:
I don't think you understand that dog is a working dog without human emotions. The police dogs job is to be aggressive.

You are correct; the dog is (ideally) an emotionless tool. That tool malfunctioned and attacked someone inappropriately. Given the potential for injuries, continuing to use an apparently defective tool is irresponsible.

The dogs job is to be aggressive*under strict control of the human operator. It apparently wasn't here. I suppose the operator could be at fault, but I have a feeling it's more likely the dog.

* Also apparently sniffing for drugs, but that's not particularly relevant here.


Now run along little snowflake, I might end up calling you a troll and hurt your feelings.

You've already called me "little snowflake" and "o'l gal" - particularly amusing because I'm male (Andre + MA (as in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts)). I'll refrain from obvious jokes questioning your sexuality and assume it was a simple error by a simple person.

Look. The dog is not an emotionless tool. What he said was that the dog does not have HUMAN emotions. The dog has its own set of simpler, more basic emotions. Here's what, in my mind, happened. What the dog saw was an aggravated individual standing in close proximity to its handler. It had been released, and it was, therefore, needed. It followed training, the handler is under no fault because he did nothing wrong, and the maulee was stupid(for standing in such close proximity to the police officer and swinging limbs about)/unlucky(Got mauled. that one's obvious). That's all there is to it...

"Hardaway said the device that released Bodo was triggered when Sealey reached over to calm someone down. Lakeland police said a woman accidentally hit the officer's chest while gesturing during an argument.
"

I read that as she hit the cop and was acting aggressively when the dog was released, so he bit her.

/Police dogs are cops too.

If you axe me (and you didn't)....
1-The biatch (one leanin against cop car) should have been in school, not outside at 8:30 in the morning.
2-Everybody can plainly see the dogs release was an accident.
3-We needs Al Sharpton to start a protest on dees white devils who release they devil dogs on da po' black young-uns

"pesky" blood stains?

A$$man: AndreMA: A$$man:
Because its a cop dog?....

I thought so.


Most appropriate handle, ever.

I feel like there's some Michael Vick joke to be made, by someone who is not me.

"Shakeria Smiley, 15, of Lakeland was released from Lakeland Regional Medical Center on Friday afternoon with minor injuries, police said, plus a pair of crutches, six stitches and several pesky blood stains on her blue jeans, according to Smiley."

Those darn pesky blood stains....not to mention the holes in her jeans. Those darn pesky bite holes.... not to mention those stitches.....those darn pesky crutches.

We need to all send a big farkin congratulations to reporter Shoshana Walter for being just so darn professional. sh­o­s­ha­na­walterr­egd­el­eht­c­om THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED ON MY RESERVATION......

I've often wondered why police even continue to employ "attack" dogs. Drug-sniffers, sure... I get that. But, dogs are crude and unpredictable as a "weapon" or "defense."

They have guns, tasers, batons, rubber bullets, etc. It seems to me that the niche previously occupied by aggressive dogs is sufficiently filled. Why continue to train K-9 units aggressively?

I suppose there are some very specialized circumstances in which they may prove useful, but why not reduce their numbers and bring those units into public use only under those circumstances?

It'd be like continuing to extensively employ traditional cavalry/mounted troops in warfare... We simply have better, more reliable alternatives 98% of the time.

pxlboy

Heres my vicious dog





/5lbs of pure iron
//I keed! I keed!

AndreMA: More constructively, I'm intrigued by the control that was bumped. I assume it emits a sound (possibly ultrasonic) that the dog has been trained to interpret as a signal to attack.

Look dude, the article explained everything, and since you don't understand the "bumped control", it's the same thing they use to open car doors that have shaved door handles. It's a little motor that releases a latch to allow the dog to be released from the vehicle and go to its handler. It doesn't just dive out looking for someone to bite.

I would imagine that the dog is trained in a situation where it is released remotely (no handler in sight when the door opens) to go to the closest person to the handler and bay or hold them.

There's no secret government ultrasonic "TORA TORA TORA" given to the dog to incite aggression. Police dog puppies are chosen because they have a lot of investigative energy and very high predatory drives which can be controlled and turned into what looks like aggression when stimulated correctly. Fear aggression or uncontrolled aggressive dogs wash out of police programs every single day.

If you're really that afraid and suspicious, get yourself a good GSD pup, a brave friend (to wear the sleeve - or join a club) and a Schutzhund book and you'll understand why a well trained police dog would behave like this.

If it was just being untrained and aggressive, it would've tried to knock the kid down and attack the upper body, it's what escaped packs of pitbulls do.

My dog, for example, as awesome as she is would not be suited for police work. She's too anxious to even be Schutzhund I, and because of that anxiety, she's extremely aggressive in protection training situations.

If you want to truly understand police dog behaviors, and responses to situations, I highly recommend reading Schutzhund:Theory and Training Methods by Susan Barwig.

If you read no other section, read the "Puppy Selection" chapters and you should know exactly why police dogs are the way they are. There's also a guy called "Leeburg" or something who does awesome protection work and is an authority on this subject. Read the things he says about this stuff and it should explain it, if not put your mind at ease.

/I'd like to get my dog on an SAR team at some point, but it looks like I'll need a different pup because she's just too high strung :-(
//Too much, I know, I just love working dogs and training them. It's very rewarding for me when a dog behaves exactly as it should and is still a dopey puppy when you call them back in.
///Never, ever, ever run from any dog you think might attack you. If you run, it will attack you.

technicolor-misfit: I've often wondered why police even continue to employ "attack" dogs. Drug-sniffers, sure... I get that. But, dogs are crude and unpredictable as a "weapon" or "defense."

They have guns, tasers, batons, rubber bullets, etc.

My WAG is they run fast and can jump over high things, plus they're scary to lots of people.

/Yeah guns are scary too, but not in a hunter/gatherer way.

Andre, the remote opens the dog's door in from the cop car, hence releasing the dog. It is nothing more than a door remote.

I am just wondering if this remote is accidently triggered while the K-9 handler is in the presence of other police officers, is the dog trained to recognize other officers.

Atreyou40:
//Too much, I know, I just love working dogs and training them.

Come by my house, I have a 3 year old male Yorkie who wants NOTHING to do with other dogs. I take him to the dog parks and he hides under the bench shaking. If we are walking and a dog approaches him, he snaps at the dog, runs and tries to hide (his heartbeat beats fast and he shakes). When he is by himself he is the best dog you could ask for, hes calm he never barks unless someone is in my property, house trained but the only thing that annoys me is that he doesnt like other dogs.


/Not sure what the heck is wrong with him
//Even as a puppy he never went near other dogs

gajillion: A$$man: AndreMA: A$$man:
Because its a cop dog?....

I thought so.


Most appropriate handle, ever.

A money man?

Gobobo - "Hardaway said the device that released Bodo was triggered when Sealey reached over to calm someone down. Lakeland police said a woman accidentally hit the officer's chest while gesturing during an argument.
"

I read that as she hit the cop and was acting aggressively when the dog was released, so he bit her.

/Police dogs are cops too.

So you just read it the way you wanted to? because it doesn't say that. The majority of the details in the article are provided by the police. If she was behaving aggressively towards the officer, you can bet your ass they'd hammer that point six ways to Sunday... if for no other reason than to play CYA in the event of a potential lawsuit.

It says she bumped a remote that released the dog from its containment in the vehicle.

vicious dog thread!

vash, the slayer of lobsters

AndreMA: So the police dog was inadvertently released... who selected the target for it? If it goes for a target without it either being obvious (non-policeman with a gun for example) or his handler somehow indicating it, it's not a police dog...

It's a vicious animal that needs to be put down. Period.


Lame.
If the police were called to a dispute I would have to assume that it was anything but friendly. The dog having a higher sensitivity to anger and aggression surely sensed this. The button was hit when someone hit the officers chest, the dog would have seen this as an act of aggression. Once the button was hit the dog came out to find this girl between it and its handler.

It did what its supposed to do. Plus it is not your dog or your neighbors that isn't trained and bites the ankles of anyone it sees.

I'm sure the girl will be compensated for her pain and medical bills. No reason to put down this dog. If the situation was a calm friendly one and the dog was inadvertently released and it attacked someone I would agree with you. However that does not seem to be the case here.

Sorry, looking at my post, that "read it the way you wanted to" bit was unnecessarily snarky... I haven't had any coffee yet.

nauseaa: "pesky" blood stains?

Hey! Someone who read the article! Kudos!

I wondered about the pesky bloodstains bit too.

approves...

cowsspinach: pxlboy

Heres my vicious dog

/5lbs of pure iron
//I keed! I keed!

cute ^_^