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(London Times) Asinine 10 reasons for Obama to pick Al Gore as a running mate, aka 10 reasons to hand the 2008 election to the GOP on a silver platter   (timesonline.typepad.com) divider line 114
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stargazer101 2008-01-18 09:08:01 AM  
An interesting theory and I agree with most of the reasons on the list. However I just can't see Obama picking him for veep. Don't know why exactly...

 
RocketVat 2008-01-18 09:33:23 AM  
al gore would overshadow obama on that ticket. not a good choice, unfortunately.

 
Hang On Voltaire [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 09:33:59 AM  
Obama could do a lot worse than Gore but IF Obama gets the nomination he is going to go with someone more moderate. Someone like Sam Nunn

 
chimp_ninja [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 09:34:28 AM  
stargazer101: An interesting theory and I agree with most of the reasons on the list.

Especially the point about Obama being a great candidate for picking up moderates, but not necessarily energizing the far left and driving up turnout.

 
moops 2008-01-18 09:35:46 AM  
A successful VP candidate is a relatively unknown policy wonk. Perhaps a former or current state governor nobody's ever heard of. A good VP is someone who can work behind the scenes, and not create a distraction.

Picking a supposed rock star on a Presidential ticket makes as much sense as Elton John and Axel Rose being on stage together.

 
ellurido 2008-01-18 09:36:31 AM  
I don't think this match-up would hand the Repulicans the election. I would vote for such a ticket.

But then again I'm going to vote for Kucinich in the primairies... so maybe my point of view is a bit skewed.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-01-18 09:39:08 AM  
1. He brings experience to the ticket. Inexperience is Obama's greatest weak point.

No he doesn't. No it's not.

2. He represented a southern state, so he would broaden the geographical base of Obama's campaign.


Dick Chaney made that strategy look stupid.

3. He would rouse the Democratic base, stoking their desire for revenge for 2000 and increasing the turnout on the Dem side. This would allow Obama to concentrate on swing voters.

The democratic base is ridiculously roused as it is. Revenge is stupid.

4. He would bring lustre to the ticket, which could be important if facing John McCain. The Republican will not be able to boast a VP candidate who has won both an Oscar and a Nobel prize.

What?

5. He is a good debater with an excellent track record in the VP debates.

He's not too bad.

6. He would push climate change up the agenda during the election, exposing Republican weaknesses.


He is far more effective speaking for himself, rather than being constrained by political discourse. If you want to make change on this issue, the last thing you want is to act pragmatically with Mideast politics.

7. He would bring the Democratic establishment behind Obama without him having to select Hillary.


Bald assertion.

8. He served in Vietnam, volunteering even though he opposed the war. This remains an issue and would certainly be one if McCain was the Republican candidate.

Saw how well that worked in 2000 and 2004. Republican's hate veterans anyway.

9. His record on terror and Iraq inside the Clinton White House was a good one. He would be able to deploy this to help Obama when foreign policy comes to the forefront.


Assuming this is true, I've never heard it stated before.

10. His re-election would be exciting for the media and another first, helping the Obama bandwagon roll. No VP has run for a third term. But there is no law against it.


Ho hum.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-01-18 09:40:22 AM  
Can Gore legally be VP again?

And why would Obama put that loser on the ticket? The whole momentum behind Obama comes from the fact that he's new and different; Gore represents the same old status quo like Clinton does.

 
MindStalker 2008-01-18 09:41:03 AM  
ellurido: Wacko! Kucinich is a constitution and freedom loving nutball. He wants us our of iraq? What a loon!

/Ron Paul (or Kuninich) 2008!!

 
MindStalker 2008-01-18 09:41:45 AM  
Dangit, where is the edit button.
out of Iraq
Not our of iraq

 
AgeOfReason 2008-01-18 09:42:17 AM  
The democrats could run nearly anyone this fall and they are going to win.

 
blackminded [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 09:43:18 AM  
Meh. If he really wants to blow people's minds, he'd pick Clinton (William Jefferson, not Hillary Rodham) as veep. The mass media masturbation (m^3) would be staggering.

 
DyslexNick 2008-01-18 09:43:48 AM  
Obama/Richardson-08 anyone?

 
LonMead 2008-01-18 09:43:59 AM  
He represented a southern state, so he would broaden the geographical base of Obama's campaign.

Right. People driving from Memphis to Bristol spend more time in Tennessee than he does on a regular basis.

He would bring lustre to the ticket, which could be important if facing John McCain. The Republican will not be able to boast a VP candidate who has won both an Oscar and a Nobel prize.

And invented the Internet. And inspired "Love Story"

He would push climate change up the agenda during the election, exposing Republican weaknesses.

And could probably even explain why "An Inconvenient Truth" can't be shown to students in Great Britain without a 9 point disclaimer about the inaccuracies and exaggerations.

Yep, Ozone Al would be a GREAT pick.

 
Paedophile_Deluxe 2008-01-18 09:44:01 AM  
He represented a southern state, so he would broaden the geographical base of Obama's campaign.

Yeah, that really worked out well last time. I'm sure it would be winning ticket overall, but why the f*ck would Al Gore want to be VP again? If he really wanted to be back in politics, he could have run for the top spot.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-01-18 09:46:16 AM  
My gut tells me he's going to pick the anti-Cheney. Madalyn Albright, Dick Lugar, Colon Powell, . . someone like that.

A hard-core no nonsense foreign policy realist, not a hard core foreign policy idealist.

He'll do the inspiring and hobnobbing while a grunt Veep will crunch the numbers and carry the big stick.

/have no evidence.

 
Riche [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 09:46:56 AM  
Gore would NOT cause Obama to lose to the Republican nominee. Frankly, I think Kucinich would make an AWESOME veep.

And, no, the guy wouldn't sink Obama either. At VERY worst, he wouldn't do any more damage than Quayle did to Bush Sr.

AND the thought of a Kucinich administration just might help keep Obama safer against some of the more active racists in this country.

 
Baby Diego [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 09:50:32 AM  
hand the 2008 election to the GOP on a silver platter

Isn't this basically the byline on every election story?

"[Person] endorses [candidate] - GOP WINS!"

"[Candidate] might get the nomination - GOP WINS!"

It's turning into a weak game of mad libs.

/pun mostly intended

 
generaltimmy 2008-01-18 09:52:04 AM  
DyslexNick: Obama/Richardson-08 anyone?

A mexican and a black guy..lol. Would Richardson (a Clintonite) run with him if he wins? I thought everyone said Richardson was the most qualified out of all to be president.

DarnoKonrad: My gut tells me he's going to pick the anti-Cheney. Colon Powell, . . someone like that.

A hard-core no nonsense foreign policy realist, not a hard core foreign policy idealist.

/have no evidence.


2 black guys, really lol!

I am black and not sure if I would vote for that! Seriously, I am not voting for Obama,

 
mountebanks 2008-01-18 09:54:25 AM  
It's gotta be Richardson, or even better, Bloomberg.

A unity ticket will put Obama's money where his mouth is- and he'll mop up at the polls.

 
pandabear [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 09:54:29 AM  
blackminded: Clinton (William Jefferson

Not permitted. See U.S. Constitution.

The article is a bad idea all around. Gore is perceived as the guy who blew it, said "fark it" and then went off and grew a beard.

 
Guntram Shatterhand 2008-01-18 09:57:14 AM  
Riche: Frankly, I think Kucinich would make an AWESOME veep.

Me too. On the short list Gore would be third to him and Feingold. And Richardson might make fourth as well.

 
tychoides 2008-01-18 09:57:47 AM  
As a conservative leaning towards voting Obama (assuming he gets the nod) who would absolutely refuse to vote for him if Gore is the VP, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

 
PlasticMoby 2008-01-18 09:58:18 AM  
Maybe i'm the only one that remembers the 2000 election. Call me crazy but as i recall a MAJORITY of americans voted FOR Al Gore. Last i heard people still like Al Gore.


Eat a bag of dicks and DIAF submittard.

 
HarveyBrooks 2008-01-18 09:58:38 AM  
LonMead :And invented the Internet. And inspired "Love Story"

Christ, can't you cons come up with some original lies?

 
LonMead 2008-01-18 10:00:03 AM  
HarveyBrooks: LonMead :And invented the Internet. And inspired "Love Story"

Christ, can't you cons come up with some original lies?


'Soon as you do.

 
Mr_Fabulous 2008-01-18 10:01:46 AM  
Hang On Voltaire: Obama could do a lot worse than Gore but IF Obama gets the nomination he is going to go with someone more moderate. Someone like Sam Nunn

Good call, HOV. Nunn would be a solid choice.

Feingold and Richardson would make pretty good choices, too, for a number of reasons.

But I still say the riskiest, but potentially most awesome choice would be Christine Whitman. Kills about 6 birds with one stone.

 
Headso 2008-01-18 10:01:53 AM  
The politics tab is giving me the shiats lately, it's been non stop speculation and little retarded stories about the excruciating minutia of each freakin candidates campaign.

I'm thinking about freezing myself in the snow until November, will anyone volunteer to bury me then come dig me up and thaw me out?

 
chuggernaught 2008-01-18 10:02:24 AM  
Yeah, because Al Gore didnt do very good when he ran for president in 2000.

 
dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-01-18 10:05:25 AM  
LonMead: He represented a southern state, so he would broaden the geographical base of Obama's campaign.

Right. People driving from Memphis to Bristol spend more time in Tennessee than he does on a regular basis.


Hell, he didn't even carry his home state in the 2000 election. I can't think of a candidate besides Gore who didn't carry his home state.

Even Carter carried his home state of Georgia in 1980.

 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 10:07:01 AM  
His smartest move would be Biden. Biden would *own* the Senate, is a pretty good debater, and definitely has a less-grating personality than Gore.

The author fails to notice the absolute *hatred* Obama's supporters have for the Clinton-era cronies. Gore would be a hideous reminder of the Clintons. Ain't going to happen. If Obama gets the nomination, he's going to actually work to *win* -- and the only way he can win is if he can convince enough GOP voters that he's a better choice than McCain.

/of course if the GOP picks Romney, Obama's a shoe-in.

 
inTheJungle 2008-01-18 10:15:42 AM  
DyslexNick: Obama/Richardson-08 anyone?

This is obviously the right idea. Such a good idea, in fact, that they should announce this as their intention right now, even though they can't legally make that choice until one has been nominated (correct me if I'm wrong). Unfortunately, my fellow Democrats don't seem to see this. *Sigh*

 
ptelg 2008-01-18 10:16:27 AM  
There's no way a 71 year old man who looks more and more decrepit everyday is going to beat a verile 46 year old, even if he is the better choice.

/Americans: We are peasants, we are many, we are stupid

 
squeegee 2008-01-18 10:18:53 AM  
Moot point.

Obama to Gore: Wanna be my VP?

Gore to Obama: Um, no, been there, done that. Making more money, having more impact, and I'm in the headlines more than when I was VP. But, hey, thanks for thinking of me.

 
DarnoKonrad 2008-01-18 10:19:47 AM  
inTheJungle: DyslexNick: Obama/Richardson-08 anyone?

This is obviously the right idea. Such a good idea, in fact, that they should announce this as their intention right now, even though they can't legally make that choice until one has been nominated (correct me if I'm wrong). Unfortunately, my fellow Democrats don't seem to see this. *Sigh*


I think it's a good idea as well. Lots of good VPs out there. I just hope he steers clear of empty suits that dominated the job in the past.

 
cartersdad 2008-01-18 10:19:52 AM  
Mr_Fabulous:

But I still say the riskiest, but potentially most awesome choice would be Christine Whitman. Kills about 6 birds with one stone.


Didn't Bill fark her too?

 
Stompn_Tom [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 10:20:17 AM  
Obama/Kucinich's wife

 
Sir Roderick Glossop 2008-01-18 10:23:25 AM  
DarnoKonrad:
5. He is a good debater with an excellent track record in the VP debates.

He's not too bad.


I agree with everything you wrote. Except this.

George Bush beat him senseless in the first couple of 2000 debates. George. Bush. I watched those with horror that has since mellowed into pitying amusement.

PlasticMoby: Maybe i'm the only one that remembers the 2000 election. Call me crazy but as i recall a MAJORITY of americans voted FOR Al Gore. Last i heard people still like Al Gore.

Eat a bag of dicks and DIAF submittard.


Well you're an angry little fella.

A lot of us Democrats have no patience for Al Gore and think he ran a rubbish campaign in 2000 and lost senselessly to an immenently beatable opponent. 2000 should not have been close. The fact it came down to "hanging chads" is a testament to his incompetence. And a lot of people win Oscars and Nobel prizes and have popular followings yet are in no way suited to be President. Al Gore is square in the middle of that pack.

 
gilgigamesh 2008-01-18 10:23:37 AM  
One reason not to: he clearly isn't the least bit interested.

 
AndEhBus 2008-01-18 10:24:37 AM  
He's Cereal!!!

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theuntested 2008-01-18 10:24:59 AM  
Screw that.

thumbnails.cbsig.net

Heidi would get congress' attention fast.

 
MFL 2008-01-18 10:26:21 AM  
Riche: Frankly, I think Kucinich would make an AWESOME veep.



better than this guy?

 
MFL 2008-01-18 10:27:43 AM  
Riche: Frankly, I think Kucinich would make an AWESOME veep.

www.thegully.com

better than this guy?

/what i ment to say

 
Disgruntled Postal Worker 2008-01-18 10:28:40 AM  
tychoides: As a conservative leaning towards voting Obama (assuming he gets the nod) who would absolutely refuse to vote for him if Gore is the VP, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

If you're leaning towards Obama, you're NOT a conservative. Republican maybe.

/Conservative
//Thompson and Hunter are the only conservatives running.

 
Kevin578 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-01-18 10:29:19 AM  
I always thought Biden would be a great VP pick for Obama. He has insane amounts of foreign policy experience, and you would also have two likable, semi-ordinary guys on the ticket. With Richardson you have the whole two brown guys dilemma. I think Bloomberg would be a sexy VP pick, but it's just too far fetched and would probably alienate the base.

 
Mr_Fabulous 2008-01-18 10:29:24 AM  
MFL: /what i ment to say

Yeah. Glad you're going the extra mile to put that ugly mug out on teh intartubes this morning. Thanks.

 
Aughsum 2008-01-18 10:29:29 AM  
now im thinking what america would be like today if gore weren't frauded out of the victory in 00.. but I don't see what the big deal with him now is. he's winning awards for making movies about things that don't exist.

obama/kucinich or maybe even obama/paul, but my gut is telling me were looking at clinton/obama.

 
Aaron Haynes 2008-01-18 10:30:57 AM  
I'm betting on Biden.

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2008-01-18 10:34:15 AM  
I think he's gotta go with Biden. It would be awesome to see him pick Dick Lugar or Chuck Hagel, though.

 
Mr_Fabulous 2008-01-18 10:34:34 AM  
Disgruntled Postal Worker: //Thompson and Hunter are the only conservatives running.

Now there's a ticket! I can see the poster now:

HUNTER
THOMPSON
2008
When the going gets weird,
the weird turn pro!

 
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