He claimed his daddy marched with Martin Luther King? We can do that now? Cool. My daddy did too...well not march so much, he probably would have sorta kinda pigeon-toed it.

Romney may well be a wishywashy twat, but that guy is a douchebag right along with him. If you see the video, the journalist is being told by a guy later on that he's acting unprofessional and argumentative, and I can't help but agree. The guy was being a dick. Romney is twisting words around, and I guess you can see it from his point or another point, but the way the guy just kept pressing is rank unprofessional.

But, Gosh, he loves America.

Durendal: Romney may well be a wishywashy twat, but that guy is a douchebag right along with him. If you see the video, the journalist is being told by a guy later on that he's acting unprofessional and argumentative, and I can't help but agree. The guy was being a dick. Romney is twisting words around, and I guess you can see it from his point or another point, but the way the guy just kept pressing is rank unprofessional.

Yes, because it's the journalists' job to be supportive and accept everything a candidate says as truth?

About damned time journalists started calling politicians on their bullshiat.

Can Romney at least pick a lie and stick to it? That's probably all the reporter was trying to tell him.

We don't mind being lied to. We mind when they change their minds a lot. There's a theory it might involve thinking and reconsidering what you have said...we're Americans. We don't like that "thinking" shiat.

"I don't have lobbyists that are tied to my ..."

Associated Press journalist Glen Johnson interrupted at this point to say that Ron Kaufman, one of Romney's top advisors, is a lobbyist.

"Did you hear what I said, Glen?" a clearly irritated Romney said. "I said, 'I don't have lobbyists running my campaign,' and he's not running my campaign. He's an adviser.

* long low whistle *

Man, this guy is even oilier than his hair.

Woulda thought that was impossible but there ya go.

CtrlAltDelete: Video!

Thanks. Romney epitomizes the term "corrupt politician."

Romney is twisting words around, and I guess you can see it from his point or another point, but the way the guy just kept pressing is rank unprofessional.

How on earth can you see it from Romney's point of view?

Romeny states that he has no lobbyistgs "tied" to his campaign. Journalist points out he has a lobbyist as advisor.
CLEARLY being an adviser is being "tied" to a campaign.

I mean, come on.

f you see the video, the journalist is being told by a guy later on that he's acting unprofessional and argumentative,

FTA:

Television showed a member of Romney's media staff telling Johnson after the briefing that he was "out of line" and not to be "argumentative" with the campaign.

It wasn't "a guy", it was a Romney dude... how is that a surprise?

In December, Romney said he had seen his father march with civil rights leader Martin Luther King. Campaign aides later said he was speaking figuratively.

That one was also hilarious.

Someone should make a top 10 Romney fark-ups. The King one and the one where he declares he never called McCain's program "amnesty" and then the journalist points out his own campaign ad calls it hat and plays the clip then Romney goes "Oh, I haven't seen that one" have to be near the top.

Bill Frist: That one was also hilarious.

Someone should make a top 10 Romney fark-ups. The King one and the one where he declares he never called McCain's program "amnesty" and then the journalist points out his own campaign ad calls it hat and plays the clip then Romney goes "Oh, I haven't seen that one" have to be near the top.

How can you possibly forget varmint hunting?

Durendal: Romney may well be a wishywashy twat, but that guy is a douchebag right along with him. If you see the video, the journalist is being told by a guy later on that he's acting unprofessional and argumentative, and I can't help but agree. The guy was being a dick. Romney is twisting words around, and I guess you can see it from his point or another point, but the way the guy just kept pressing is rank unprofessional.

You're right. We should just get rid of journalists all together and have one guy ask a politician uncontroversial and scripted questions to which there will be no follow up or verification.

Christ...some people will defend anything.

All I know is that we're gonna see more change in the next ten years than we did in the last ten centuries. And we need a man like Mitt Romney to lead us through such a time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5eKfC6TYjk

Romney is a world class douchebag. What does anyone see in him?

Now with popping window (new window)

Bill Frist: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5eKfC6TYjk

I believe I've read some pages from this playbook before... hold on... trying to recollect... ah yes:

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true." -- Bill Clinton

sarcastrophe:

Clinton lied too. I hear you.

What are you getting at exactly?

Another funny one (new window)

Romney lying about his faith (new window)

Bill Frist: Clinton lied too. I hear you.

What are you getting at exactly?

Well... nothing really. I just find it incredibly amusing that anyone thinks this wordplay is gonna fly.

So people help me out here.

So far we got

1) My dad marched with MLK... except he didn't, at all.
2) My ad didn't say McCain's bill was amnesty... except it did, twice
3) I got the endorsement of the NRA... except I didn't
4) I'm a lifelong hunter... well, I went hunting once or twice in the past
5) Mormon's don't believe Jesus will come to the USA... except they do


anyone want to round out the top 10?

Bill Frist: sarcastrophe:

Clinton lied too. I hear you.

What are you getting at exactly?

Another funny one (new window)

Bill Frist: sarcastrophe:

Clinton lied too. I hear you.

What are you getting at exactly?

Another funny one (new window)

But Bill Cinton lied about getting blow jobs!!!!!! let's not forget about that!

Never Trust Robots: But Bill Cinton lied about getting blow jobs!!!!!! let's not forget about that!

I don't care what he lied about. His justification for lying was incredibly... dopey (too much beer... not enough thesaurus)

Bill Frist: anyone want to round out the top 10?

There's gotta be some mention of the pro-life/pro-choice flip-flop.

This one is great too (pops).

Seriously, I don't trust the guy one bit.

Durendal: Romney may well be a wishywashy twat, but that guy is a douchebag right along with him. If you see the video, the journalist is being told by a guy later on that he's acting unprofessional and argumentative, and I can't help but agree. The guy was being a dick. Romney is twisting words around, and I guess you can see it from his point or another point, but the way the guy just kept pressing is rank unprofessional.

Yeah, fark that reporter for not letting Romney tell complete lies to a crowd of people while attacking another candidate for doing something he himself does.

sarcastrophe: Never Trust Robots: But Bill Cinton lied about getting blow jobs!!!!!! let's not forget about that!

I don't care what he lied about. His justification for lying was incredibly... dopey (too much beer... not enough thesaurus)

Who really cares about it now though?

Why isn't the press nailing Romney more about how much of a farking liar he is?

Never Trust Robots: Why isn't the press nailing Romney more about how much of a farking liar he is?

I dunno, man. Romney + is a sure win?

I was just saying it the same dishonest politics. I'm not defending either. I think think they both suck.

sarcastrophe: I dunno, man. Romney + is a sure win?

That should read: Romney + [insert any democrat here]

Bill Frist: Now with popping window (new window)

Holy balls that was funny. Thanks.

I'm no fan of Romney (and he probably IS lying) but that's the height of unprofessionalism.

I'll bet dollars to dogshiat ol' boy won't be on the campaign trail for much longer.

For any J-School kids out there - your job is to report the story, not become part of it. Yes I know, Hunter S. is a god. You ain't him.

If they lie, put it in the story. Don't try to call them out in the middle of a televised press conference.

rynthetyn: This one is great too (pops).

Seriously, I don't trust the guy one bit.

fark, I can't believe I fell for that. I hate you.

noneoftheabove: If they lie, put it in the story. Don't try to call them out in the middle of a televised press conference.

So you advocate letting people telling lies directly to a group of people, as long as it's reported as false later.

I'm sorry. I don't care what profession you're in, but if someone is standing there lying to me, and it's obvious, you have the obligation to call them a liar.

noneoftheabove Quote 2008-01-18 02:44:19 AM
I'm no fan of Romney (and he probably IS lying) but that's the height of unprofessionalism.

It is not unprofessional AT ALL.

What the fark are you talking about?

Journalists shouldn't correct blatant lies?

Get the fark out of here, kid. Is this your first day reading a news article?

Bill Frist: So people help me out here.

So far we got

1) My dad marched with MLK... except he didn't, at all.
2) My ad didn't say McCain's bill was amnesty... except it did, twice
3) I got the endorsement of the NRA... except I didn't
4) I'm a lifelong hunter... well, I went hunting once or twice in the past
5) Mormon's don't believe Jesus will come to the USA... except they do


anyone want to round out the top 10?

I can't really help out, but Obsidian Wings had an excellent post about him that I think really nails his campaign.

Even Romney doesn't sound like he gives a shiat about what he's talking about in ads like this one.

I'm voting for Romney. He has better hair than even John Edwards.

The reason America lost respect from the world over the last 7 or so years is that Bush has the haircut of a schoolboy who isn't out of short pants

noneoftheabove: For any J-School kids out there - your job is to report the story, not become part of it. Yes I know, Hunter S. is a god. You ain't him.

If they lie, put it in the story. Don't try to call them out in the middle of a televised press conference.

Well he's been part of Romney's press corps for a while now, so I'm betting he's held his tongue on it MANY times before and decided not to let it slip by this time.

But you're right, I too believe that Romney should be able to stand in front of a crowd of people and tell outright lies, as long as its corrected in an article most people will never read the next day.

noneoftheabove:

If they lie, put it in the story. Don't try to call them out in the middle of a televised press conference.

let me get this straight: You think it is unprofessional for a member of the press to call out a Presidential candidate in the middle of a press conference?

I mean the following statement in all honesty, may my mother be gang raped if I am lying: I want you to go into your kitchen and drink an entire bottle of draino. Seriously. Get off of my farking planet you incredible simpleton. The fact that you are allowed to walk this Earth infuriates me on a deeply personal level.

sarcastrophe


I don't support someone letting people get away with lying - I support them trying to remain objective and do their job.


Bill Frist

Get the fark out of here, kid. Is this your first day reading a news article?

Billy, I'll lay even money I'm older than you are.

What media outlet do YOU work for? I can post links to some of my clips if you're willing to establish your bonafides first.

Never Trust Robots


Oh good, someone else who can't understand the concept of objectivity.

Billy, I'll lay even money I'm older than you are.

That just makes you more of a mental child.

noneoftheabove: Never Trust Robots


Oh good, someone else who can't understand the concept of objectivity.

says the person who doesn't understand the concept of a press conference. facts are always objective.

"The reason America lost respect from the world over the last 7 or so years is that Bush has the haircut of a schoolboy who isn't out of short pants"

And I hear I thought it was because he lied the US into a war, has spent money like a drunken sailor and, and, well, not enough room here for all of it, is there....
His haircut does kind of suck, but nothing near as bad as his speaking ability.

noneoftheabove: Never Trust Robots


Oh good, someone else who can't understand the concept of objectivity.

Seriously, why aren't you choking to death on your kitchen floor with a blue chemical foam dripping from your gaping mouth?

Never Trust Robots

facts are always objective.

Yes, they are. Like the fact there were probably ground rules set up in the first place, that all the journos agreed to before showing up. The most common one is not to interrupt with questions in the middle of a speech.

Or the fact that if we let asshats spout off anytime they want, you'll have more liars called on their bullshiat, but you'll also have good people being drowned out by morons (why does THAT sound so familiar...)

/My plumbing system is new, no drain cleaner around. Any other suggestions? How about a nice bottle of bourbon?

Bill Frist


I didn't think so.

but you'll also have good people being drowned out by morons (why does THAT sound so familiar...)

The video clip does show some old hag yelling at the reporter for being "ugly" when he is talking to one of Romney's men, so yeah seems familiar.

noneoftheabove: Never Trust Robots

facts are always objective.

Yes, they are. Like the fact there were probably ground rules set up in the first place, that all the journos agreed to before showing up. The most common one is not to interrupt with questions in the middle of a speech.


You cannot set up ground rules in a public forum. These faux press conferences are a charade, and I personally applaud this reporter for speaking up during it. The office of President is too important to allow for these type of PR stunts. Just because you create the rules doesn't mean everyone has to follow them. The press has an obligation to search out the truth above all else. Objectivity is a myth, nothing more than a buzzword for journalism program flunkies and people who don't like the content of a news piece. It has never been a principle of journalism, nor is it today. It is an impossible concept, used to discredit reporting that people find unfavorable.