http://ontheissues.org/House/Jeff_Flake.htm



Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump. (May 2006)
Voted NO on protecting whistleblowers from employer recrimination. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on increasing fines for indecent broadcasting. (Feb 2005)


So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

That said, I agree with him on cutting pork. Maybe he'll do less damage to our freedom if we stick him on the appropiation committee and let him focus on that.

Looks like NRO has fulfilled its "Pretend Like We Actually Give a Shiat About Conservative Principles" article quota for the month of January.

Everybody hates pork, until they want their bacon.

Obvious, perhaps, but also

Fighting pork?

Do they have government pork in Israel, or do they call it something else?

Snarfangel: Do they have government pork in Israel, or do they call it something else?

I think they'd have a beef with calling it that... it just wouldn't be kosher.

The whole thing's fishy to me, anyways.

Jeff Flake was elected to Congress in 2000 from Arizona's Sixth Congressional District with the hope of "effectively advanc[ing] the principles of limited government, economic freedom, and individual responsibility,"

That pretty much rules him out being a democrat or republican, so I guess this thread will be boring...

Pork comprises about $20 billion while the total US budget is something like $2.5 trillion. Ranting and raving about pork is pure ideological masturbation.

TofuTheAlmighty: Pork comprises about $20 billion while the total US budget is something like $2.5 trillion. Ranting and raving about pork is pure ideological masturbation.

True, but attempting to minimize it isn't bad.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Everybody hates pork, until they want their bacon.

That's the story. And therein, like the Bard tells it, lies the rub.

I think that one word is a made-up word.

Why is it we're only hearing "conservatives" biatching about pork barrel spending now that they are in the minority in Congress? Ooops! Answered my own question!

Can't escape the conclusion
It's probably God's Will
That civilization
Will grind to a standstill
And we are the people
Who will make it all happen
While yer children is sleepin',
Yer puppy is crappin'
You might call us Flakes
Or something else you might coin us
But we know you're so greedy
That you'll probably join us
We're comin' to get you, we're comin' to get you

"Flakes" ~Frank Zappa

DC is an open sewer pipe in terms of graft, corruption, earmarks for sharks and the like.

This guys crusade against pork is welcome but it's still not enuff to even dent the culture of corruption.

TheCid: So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

That said, I agree with him on cutting pork.

Then why didn't you just say that to begin with?

/btw, this article should have gotten the tag

TheCid: http://ontheissues.org/House/Jeff_Flake.htm



Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump. (May 2006)
Voted NO on protecting whistleblowers from employer recrimination. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on increasing fines for indecent broadcasting. (Feb 2005)


So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

That said, I agree with him on cutting pork. Maybe he'll do less damage to our freedom if we stick him on the appropiation committee and let him focus on that.


Huh? How does voting in favor of a border fence make one a "typical theocratic republican"? Or voting no on a Net Nuetrality proposal? I remember some of those votes and I disagree with the summaries of some of them. I realize they're needing to sum up for brevity, but many of those were complex bills which were not so cut and dry for or against what was presented. Besides the fact, I've heard cogent and convincing arguments both for AND against net nuetrality and none of it ever had anything to do with being a "theocratic republican" whatsoever...

You know, you don't HAVE to lump everyone in to some politically loaded label or category...


demanton: I think that one word is a made-up word.

Why is it we're only hearing "conservatives" biatching about pork barrel spending now that they are in the minority in Congress? Ooops! Answered my own question!


That's because you don't listen to them until it's convenient for you, dipshiat. NRO's had plenty of articles biatching about out of control spending for years. In fact, probably their #1 most consistent criticism of Bush has been his blatant inability to reign in spending under the Republican congress.

demanton: I think that one word is a made-up word.

Why is it we're only hearing "conservatives" biatching about pork barrel spending now that they are in the minority in Congress? Ooops! Answered my own question!

Because they realize their only chance of getting back power is to act like the are *shocking* conservaties. Most people want less governemnt interference in their life. but instead of that they decide to become worse than the Dems at pork barrel spending.

If he gets the job, he will turn within 2 months. Power, corruption, absolutely.

TheCid: So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

So basically, you're a gay commie liberal frenchman.

/see it's not so fun to be pigeonholed, is it?

mongbiohazard: Huh? How does voting in favor of a border fence make one a "typical theocratic republican"?

Because you just know he's doing it to keep out the godless Mexicans.

demanton: I think that one word is a made-up word.

Why is it we're only hearing "conservatives" biatching about pork barrel spending now that they are in the minority in Congress? Ooops! Answered my own question!

I said the same thing. Bush has no business and no credibility complaining about spending

The other white meat?

Notice how the article rubs him off about all these pork projects he rejected. . . Sounds like another 'anti-pork' person I've heard of. . . Ron Paul. .

Course, wonder if he's just like Ron Paul about his own district. Gotta love the hypocrites.

I'd like to see them cut the defense budget by 1/2 and kick all the rich farks out of Medicare and Social Security.

mongbiohazard: TheCid: http://ontheissues.org/House/Jeff_Flake.htm



Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump. (May 2006)
Voted NO on protecting whistleblowers from employer recrimination. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on increasing fines for indecent broadcasting. (Feb 2005)


So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

That said, I agree with him on cutting pork. Maybe he'll do less damage to our freedom if we stick him on the appropiation committee and let him focus on that.


Huh? How does voting in favor of a border fence make one a "typical theocratic republican"? Or voting no on a Net Nuetrality proposal? I remember some of those votes and I disagree with the summaries of some of them. I realize they're needing to sum up for brevity, but many of those were complex bills which were not so cut and dry for or against what was presented. Besides the fact, I've heard cogent and convincing arguments both for AND against net nuetrality and none of it ever had anything to do with being a "theocratic republican" whatsoever...

You know, you don't HAVE to lump everyone in to some politically loaded label or category...

3 bolded ones for theorcrat, 1 bolded one for all around asshole (patriot act).

understand now?

sigdiamond2000: Looks like NRO has fulfilled its "Pretend Like We Actually Give a Shiat About Conservative Principles" article quota for the month of January year.

We're talking about people that endorsed Mitt Romney here. They aren't trying all that hard anymore.

mongbiohazard: Huh? How does voting in favor of a border fence make one a "typical theocratic republican"?

Look to all the towns in Texas where the federal government is using eminent domain to take land with little to no compensation so they can pander to the masses with their new Maginot Line.

TofuTheAlmighty: Pork comprises about $20 billion while the total US budget is something like $2.5 trillion. Ranting and raving about pork is pure ideological masturbation.

If you dropped a quarter on the ground, you'd pick it up, right? Well, the same goes for pork. Nickels and dimes eventually add up to real dollars. $20 billion not spent on pork is $20 billion less of a deficit. You have to trim and cut everywhere you can if you want to be responsible with your finances.

LocalCynic: Look to all the towns in Texas where the federal government is using eminent domain to take land with little to no compensation so they can pander to the masses with their new Maginot Line.

I see no problem with a border fence. Hell, I want an impenetrable wall with a pictogram featuring the middle finger on it. Let that be the impression that the Mexicans take of our country.

My response to any illegal immigrant is "get the fark out of my country" and I wish the US could use force to back that up. It wouldn't be at all improper to have those auto-guided motion sensitive chain guns from the movie Aliens on top of turrets at our border wall.

TofuTheAlmighty: Pork comprises about $20 billion while the total US budget is something like $2.5 trillion. Ranting and raving about pork is pure ideological masturbation.

That's what asshats like Murtha and Lott are hoping you will think, so they can happily grease their fatcat contributors and use public money to build monuments to themselves.

The Pork costs a lot more than $20 billion. It is essentially campaign cash for incumbents, thus presumably making it harder and harder to have a real congress of citizens. Theoretically, that $20 billion could be ultimately costing trillions in bad decisions by Congressmen who have almost zero chance of being defeated currently.

mrmopar5287 I see no problem with a border fence. Hell, I want an impenetrable wall with a pictogram featuring the middle finger on it. Let that be the impression that the Mexicans take of our country.

Sure, why not build a huge dome around America. It's not like we need foreign goods or anything. Let's isolate ourselves from the world! PS - if you think that illegal immigrants are costing us a lot now, try calculating the costs of near-perfect border security.

My response to any illegal immigrant is "get the fark out of my country" and I wish the US could use force to back that up.

GAAAR ME SMASH ILLEEEEEEGALS.

TheCid: So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

That said, I agree with him on cutting pork.

No you don't. NRO is just lying so that they can get Republicans back into every seat in the house. The minute he gets on, he'll vote for every pork-laden bill the Republicans want, no questions asked.

/No party for fiscal conservatives anymore.
//Except the Dems, who are becoming the party of fiscal responsibility by proxy.
///YA RLY.

Greeeeat, a mormon president and a mormon congressional appropriations chairman. I'm excited. What's next, a mormon senator sitting on the Finance Committee? Oh (new window)

mongbiohazard:
Huh? How does voting in favor of a border fence make one a "typical theocratic republican"?
The "two constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage" part and the "higher fines for indecency" is the theocratic part. Along with a bunch of the other stuff on there. No abortion because jesus said so, etc.

BiffDangler: Yeah, yeah, they are right-wing theocrats, but if they were gone you would instead have right wing theocrats who love pork, so you might as well support these guys and what they are trying to do.

Right.

TheCid: http://ontheissues.org/House/Jeff_Flake.htm



Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Voted YES on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Sep 2004)
Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump. (May 2006)
Voted NO on protecting whistleblowers from employer recrimination. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on increasing fines for indecent broadcasting. (Feb 2005)


So basically he's a typical theocratic republican.

That said, I agree with him on cutting pork. Maybe he'll do less damage to our freedom if we stick him on the appropiation committee and let him focus on that.

what freedoms have you lost exactly?

pork...good

014789: what freedoms have you lost exactly?

Are you a farking moron? This guy supports censorship, corporate control of the internet (rather than requiring them to carry all pages equally), opposes gay marriage, voted to make the PATRIOT act permanent, etc.