Only break one law at a time.
If you are speeding, don't carry pot. If you have a tail light out, don't carry pot. If you carry pot, don't do anything else illegal.

Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

Depends on what happened after the search. If the cops had articulable facts to justify a reasonable suspicion to search (lower legal standard than probable cause), they legally can do.

Or maybe the idiotic driver gave consent. Pick your poison.

Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

The preferred response to "You don't mind if we search your car do you, got anything illegal in there?" is NOT yes or no, it's...

"I'd prefer not to, can I go now?"

/the more you know

Bathroom Gumshoe - at least we have a good excuse, in your case I reckon it's a genetic psychological disorder.

/at least I can stop and be "intelligent" again the next day, but you're stuck there. :-)

Bathroom Gumshoe: Because pot turns people into morons.

Actually pot turns energetic morons into lazy morons so its a win-win. Smart people just get introspective or sleepy depending on the pot.

Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

According to the Supreme Court, no.

TheFatManCometh: Bathroom Gumshoe: Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

TheFatManCometh
Where the FARK do you live?

My bet is in Amsterdam.

Bathroom Gumshoe: Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

I bet you're high right now. Wish I was high right now.

Bathroom Gumshoe:
Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC. alcohol and/or religion and/or meth and/or they're just stupid

TheFatManCometh: Where the FARK do you live?

Off 40, like I say, o girthy sir.

TheFatManCometh: Bathroom Gumshoe: Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.


Where the FARK do you live?

Uranus

Bathroom Gumshoe: Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

WHOA.

This is not my Batman glass.

RawData: The preferred response to "You don't mind if we search your car do you, got anything illegal in there?" is NOT yes or no, it's...

"I'd prefer not to, canmay I go now?"

/the more you know

FTFY

Damn, thats not far from here. I thought I smelled it drive by.

Bathroom Gumshoe: Blah Blah Blah

/facepalm

Don't listen to subby, go ahead and break the laws, no one will notice.

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

/get a brain
//morans!

Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

1. Driver consent
2. Driver or passenger looked weird enough to warrant a full search
3. Driver or any passenger had a Hit Confirmation on their record check.
4. Pot was in plain view

/works in Law Enforcement (not a cop though)
//Does NOT ask for breaks when pulled over and gets embarrased when breaks are offered

phillydrifter: Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

/get a brain
//morans!

Why didn't our founding fathers realize how dirty of a word "reasonable" would become?

Bathroom Gumshoe

Sounds like you're high. Call me, I got this blunt but no weed.

Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

No. According to the US Supreme Court, and virtually every stat in the Union, you have sacrificed almost every 4th Amendment right left (not that there were many left in the first place) by having a driver's license.

This is because by driving a car, you are theoretically putting other people's lives at risk should you be doing something illegal (drinking, smoking, having sex while driving), and their rights to be safe come before your rights to do something illegal.

That said, once you have done ANYTHING illegal, the cop still has to ask, "Mind if I search your vehicle?" If you say NO!, what happens next depends on what happened before that. If you were polite, said sir/ma'am a lot, didn't have any warrants, were white, looked professional, etc., you may get away. If you were rude, threw some attitude, were black/hispanic, driving a car that looked like it might be hiding some drugs, etc., then the cop is calling for the dog, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

Bathroom Gumshoe: Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

Chariset:
but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

50,000 grams equals roughly 112 lbs. That's a lot of weed. They probably smelled it and that gave them probable cause to search. If the driver refused, they would have brought in a dog. Either way, these guys were dumb for not obeying every traffic law to the letter.

Bathroom Gumshoe
Because pot turns people into morons.

What's your excuse?

$300,000 of marijuana? How much is that translated from cop valuation? Three roaches and some resin?

/DNRTFA

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit. Also if you pull someone over and you happen to see something in the car, well, dumbass you should have hid it better.

/Drug runners aren't exactly the smartest people in the world, otherwise they'd have a real job
//Goes for pretty much everyone that I've stuck in the back of a car , actually

Bathroom Gumshoe: Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Often while listening to the 'jazz'.

I thought the Federal government outlaws any barrier to interstate commerce. Prohibiting Marijuana is like the government mandating the use of only Kleenex™ brand tissue paper for nose blowing purposes.

Nothing but double-speak in the name of orders given by religious sects.

JamesLi: Not sure if it has been posted yet, but you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit. Also if you pull someone over and you happen to see something in the car, well, dumbass you should have hid it better.

/Drug runners aren't exactly the smartest people in the world, otherwise they'd have a real job
//Goes for pretty much everyone that I've stuck in the back of a car , actually

Precisely.
Right after the "How many drinks have you had?" "Just one or two beers, ossifer."
When I was with loss prevention, the question was "Where's your receipt?" Invariable answer: "I threw it away."

Southpaw018:
That made me spill my (non-alcoholic) drink. Funny!

Bathroom Gumshoe: Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

3/10

Still too obvious.

JamesLi: Not sure if it has been posted yet, but you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit. Also if you pull someone over and you happen to see something in the car, well, dumbass you should have hid it better.

/Drug runners aren't exactly the smartest people in the world, otherwise they'd have a real job
//Goes for pretty much everyone that I've stuck in the back of a car , actually

I think that is because of all the high profile police perpetrated murders lately. Most people are just hoping they can visit their grandmother without getting tazered for smelling like a criminal.

In Baltimore, a cop was found to have raped a 16 year-old girl INSIDE the police station. Lucky for him the police union had his back so he was only asked to resign without ANY punishment.

In Chicago, a survey of prostitutes has led to the conclusion that cops are over 10 times more likely to extort a prostitute than to arrest them.

People don't "let" the police search their cars any more than they "let" the mafia take a percentage of their small business revenues

I only let the cops search my car when I'm transporting the summer's oregano harvest.


/grow lots of different vegetation
//only transport the legal variety in quantity

$300,000 for 50,000 grams? Thats some farked up math.

It they are selling it:
By the kilo, thats $500 per kilo $150,000
by the pound, thats $2700
by the qp, thats $680
by the ounce, thats $170
by the quarter, thats $40
by the gram, thats $6

This formula only works if they are splitting it up, and selling by the gram, which they aren't doing. I don't know what the street value of 50,000 grams is, but assuming they are splitting it by the ounce, they would have be selling the best shiat known to man.

I have never seen prices so high (heh, high)

JamesLi: you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit.

Thanks for taking these people off the roads, even if briefly. You take a risk for societies benefit, and you'll get no thanks in here I'll wager.

Police can search the whole passenger compartment durring any stop including any locked containers there in for a weapon. It is deamed a rule for their safety

They may search the whole vehicle, with consent, if the person is on parole, probation, on bond, it is a commercial vehicle, or with a warrant. The courts also back a search if the offence renders a arrest and places the vehicle under the control of law enforcement.

Oddly if law enforcement knows before the stop that it contains drugs a warrant is required.

What they inadvertently stumble on is fair game.

Ironclad2: Littering AND...Littering AND...Littering AND...

Smoking the Reefer.

sorhed: JamesLi: you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit.

Thanks for taking these people off the roads, even if briefly. You take a risk for societies benefit, and you'll get no thanks in here I'll wager.

go back under the bridge troll

did I really just spend all that time on a stupid fark post? damn

You know who else likes weed? Link (new window)

Bathroom Gumshoe: Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.



either a nice troll or a nice rant from a moron. either way, kudos.

Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop? Isn't that illegal search and seizure?

I'm guessing there had to be a pretty big smell in their car. I mean, not that I have ever bought any of the stuff, but I hear it sells, even when carrying just 1/4 ounce (assuming it is good stuff).

I could only image what 50,000 grams would smell like

h to the 'ojo: sorhed: JamesLi: you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit.

Thanks for taking these people off the roads, even if briefly. You take a risk for societies benefit, and you'll get no thanks in here I'll wager.

go back under the bridge troll

wowza -- what is that stuck up your ass?

upright_apes_r_us: Police can search the whole passenger compartment durring any stop including any locked containers there in for a weapon. It is deamed a rule for their safety

That is just flat out wrong. Police have to have reasonable suspicion of criminal behavior or activity to do such a search. They just cannot legally pull over a car and start searching it with no reasonable suspicion.

keithgabryelski: h to the 'ojo: sorhed: JamesLi: you'd be amazed at how many times someone has let me search their car, and they have weed, crack, a flippin' .45 under their seat with no permit.

Thanks for taking these people off the roads, even if briefly. You take a risk for societies benefit, and you'll get no thanks in here I'll wager.

go back under the bridge troll

wowza -- what is that stuck up your ass?

I think he was trying to troll me by claiming I was a troll. I just wanted to thank a cop for facing gun-toting crackheads on my behalf...

... so I can smoke dope safely in my own home.

Glad to see you think I do this because I want to terrorize people. I remember taking that oath to harass and mistreat people back in the academy, now! Thanks for reminding me.

Not all of us are worthless pieces of shiat who don't deserve the badge on their chest.

170 for an ounce is pricey but not too bad Gnaget.

Bathroom Gumshoe: Chariset: Not to defend these idiots, but why are police allowed to search a vehicle during what sounds like a routine traffic stop?

Because pot turns people into morons.

Ever wonder why your country, it's culture, commerce, political system, free press, school system, spirituality, diet, etc. etc. is in the toilet? It's cause too many of it's otherwise intelligent citizens have their synapses gummed up with a green goo called THC.

Government by the people ceases to exist when the people use their freedom to lobotomize themselves. So there's no use defending the civil liberties of snickering, emotionally stunted retards who suck marijuana since, given the first opportunity, they'll short-circuit their humanity and capacity for cooperative functioning anyway.

Better to bust their asses before that cargo hits the streets and multiplies the damage like a hepatitis of stupidity.

5/10.

/hepatitis of stupidity was good.