But I want to co-opt the positive public perception of an American hero to puff up my anemic personality and uninteresting message.

The answer is: Ron Paul

In fact, the answer to everything is Ron Paul.

Tatsuma: In fact, the answer to everything is Ron Paul.

is there anything Ron Paul can't do?

Tatsuma: The answer is: Ron Paul
In fact, the answer to everything is Ron Paul.

Not in a Clinton/Obama thread. C'mon, Tatsuma, focus!

SilentStrider: is there anything Ron Paul can't do?

Could Ron Paul create a deficit so big that Ron Paul couldn't solve it?

Snarfangel: Not in a Clinton/Obama thread. C'mon, Tatsuma, focus!

Ah, come on, it's about MLK! You know someone was going to mention it

SilentStrider: is there anything Ron Paul can't do?

Is that the guy that hates dark people?

/sorry
//keep Paul out of the Clinton/Obama thread, there's enough flame to handle already

Obama is neglecting the Swedish-American vote.

Echoic: SilentStrider: is there anything Ron Paul can't do?

Is that the guy that hates dark people?

/sorry
//keep Paul out of the Clinton/Obama thread, there's enough flame to handle already

He's a republican, he's only allowed to like groups Ronald Reagan was a part of. And isn't he willing to end the trade embargo with Cuba? How suspicious..

/Zombie Reagan meets Zombie Castro: Fight to the ReDeath

"I don't think either of us want to inject race or gender into his campaign."
- Hillary Clinton

"I think that having a first woman president is a huge change"
- Hillary Clinton one week earlier, speaking next to a Hispanic and a black man who kept their mouths shut on race the entire debate

What a sickening biatch. Neither Richardson nor Obama have played the race card, but Hillary pulls the gender card regularly.

Echoic: What a sickening biatch. Neither Richardson nor Obama have played the race card, but Hillary pulls the gender card regularly.

Don't make her cry, she might win another primary

I_Lost_My_Other_Username: Obama is neglecting the Swedish-American vote.

and the coveted Nationalist Coalition (new window) vote.

Do you think their URL is ncoal.com because they are worried they appeal to people who have trouble spelling either word?

Echoic: Neither Richardson nor Obama have played the race card, but Hillary pulls the gender card regularly.

I came in here to say this.

Tatsuma: Don't make her cry, she might win another primary

I bet people would fall for it again, too.

Echoic: Neither Richardson nor Obama have played the race card

Also, Clinton has played the race card, then denies it and blames Obama. Classy.

Hillary, FTA: This is the most exciting election we've had in such a long time because you have an African-America, an extraordinary man, a person of tremendous talents and abilities running to become our president. You have a woman running to break the highest and hardest glass ceiling. I don't think either of us want to inject race or gender into his campaign."

Well, ignoring the fact that you injected race and gender into the previous two sentences, forget the freaking glass ceiling bit. You are doing a job interview with the American people, half of whom are women. If you can't make the case that you are the best person for the job regardless of sex, then you don't deserve the job, regardless of how few women have run for President.

As it is, you sound there is some Affirmative Action slot for President, and are offended that Obama might be elected to a position that is rightfully yours. As much as I disagree with him on policy, at least he's running to be President of the United States, not President of Democrats, Blacks, or Men.

keithgabryelski:
Wouldn't he win some of them over if the Republican nominee was Keyes because he is more racially "pure"? I know it all sounds crazy but I am a political junkie who like to play around with hypotheticals.

And I just found this.
Link (new window)

SilentStrider: is there anything Ron Paul can't do?

Ron Paul can't and/or won't ever be, President of the United States

...better than fighting over who loves Gitmo/torture more.

such a nice picture...

Lionel Mandrake: ...better than fighting over who loves Gitmo/torture more.

Congrats, that makes you the liberal equivalent of "Barak OSAMA Hussein and Hitlery are fighting over how to turn American into a Xian-less socialist state"

Obama is getting thefree pass that hasbeen associated with Clinton, they play the race card for him...as do many of his supporters. It is offending that just because SC has blacks make up 50% of th eelctorate for the D field, he has that in the bag.

generaltimmy: It is offending that just because SC NH has blacks women make up 50% 51% of th eelctorate for the D field, he has she had that in the bag.

FTFY

/SC was leaning toward Clinton before Obama won Iowa

generaltimmy: It is offending that just because SC has blacks make up 50% of th eelctorate for the D field, he has that in the bag.

sorry to burst your bubble, but Clinton had a 20 point lead in that state when Obama was announcing for his bid for the presidency and only recently has the voters looked at him as a viable candidate

/another important info: most of his supporters are white people

I'm offended. Where are all the illiterate hermaphrodite Asian candidates? This whole election smacks of elitism.

another intersteing tidbit, Obama does not bring up the race card today but rather talked about faith (new window)

/the man has so far ran a classy campaign

SeismicJizzer

I've seen his wife talk about race a few months back. Something about the discrimination Barack potentially faces when he pumps his gas at the station. It was a big turnoff as a potential voter.

I_Lost_My_Other_Username: SeismicJizzer

I've seen his wife talk about race a few months back. Something about the discrimination Barack potentially faces when he pumps his gas at the station. It was a big turnoff as a potential voter.

Why would you vote on someone based on their spouses political history? That's just absurd.

SeismicJizzer: generaltimmy: It is offending that just because SC has blacks make up 50% of th eelctorate for the D field, he has that in the bag.

sorry to burst your bubble, but Clinton had a 20 point lead in that state when Obama was announcing for his bid for the presidency and only recently has the voters looked at him as a viable candidate

/another important info: most of his supporters are white people

I noticed that right after the New Hampshire Primary, the candidates were giving their brief speeches with their entourages on stage with them. Behind Obama, there was no black people; behind Hillary, there was no men.

I_Lost_My_Other_Username: SeismicJizzer

I've seen his wife talk about race a few months back. Something about the discrimination Barack potentially faces when he pumps his gas at the station. It was a big turnoff as a potential voter.

To be honest, I really don't care what his wife says, I am more focused on the candidates.

Tatsuma: Lionel Mandrake: ...better than fighting over who loves Gitmo/torture more.

Congrats, that makes you the liberal equivalent of "Barak OSAMA Hussein and Hitlery are fighting over how to turn American into a Xian-less socialist state"

Tatsuma, that is a throughly bullshiat response. In the first Republican debate Romney got into an argument with Thompson and Guliani over "the terrorists" which ended with Romney saying he'd increase the size of gitmo and Guliani saying that he'd definitely use "enhanced techniques" against terrorists.

What was most appalling to me was the ruckus cheering that went on after they made such ridiculous statements, but that's neither here nor there.

I know you like to play the moderate, but please see the difference between a minor exaggeration (like Lionel made) and the complete fabrication that you went with.

Tatsuma: Congrats, that makes you the liberal equivalent of "Barak OSAMA Hussein and Hitlery are fighting over how to turn American into a Xian-less socialist state"

Congrats...this makes you an idiot.

Tatsuma: Lionel Mandrake: ...better than fighting over who loves Gitmo/torture more.

Congrats, that makes you the liberal equivalent of "Barak OSAMA Hussein and Hitlery are fighting over how to turn American into a Xian-less socialist state"

Reality vs. prediction.
They're not in the same field at all.
Both sides are bad doesn't work when one side encourages waterboarding.

SeismicJizzer

To be honest, I really don't care what his wife says, I am more focused on the candidates.

Me too. Thats why I chose Richardson over Obama.

T-Servo: Echoic: Neither Richardson nor Obama have played the race card

Also, Clinton has played the race card, then denies it and blames Obama. Classy.

The way Hillary has been playing the race thing disgusts me so much that if not for Florida getting all of it's delegates taken away, I'd be tempted to switch parties just to vote against her in the primary.

I decided a long time ago that one thing that would automatically make me rule out voting for a candidate was if that candidate decided to race bait. It's why I can't bring myself to vote for most of the Republican field (the immigration rhetoric is another race-baiting technique), and it's why I sure as heck can't bring myself to vote for Hillary. She knows what she's doing, she's sending a message to racist voters in South Carolina that they can be safe with her, and it makes me sick to watch.

/If it's Hillary vs. one of the race-baiting Republicans, I'm staying home

Tatsuma: Could Ron Paul create a deficit so big that Ron Paul couldn't solve it?
Echoic: Is that the guy that hates dark people?
Falcc: He's a republican, he's only allowed to like groups Ronald Reagan was a part of. And isn't he willing to end the trade embargo with Cuba? How suspicious..
guesser: Ron Paul can't and/or won't ever be, President of the United States

I'm sorry, the correct answer is Ron Paul can't do Ron Paul.

Wtf subby, why you gotta ignore Ron Paul?

Sorry, Hillary. You said a stupid thing. Spinning it isn't going to make it better this time.

generaltimmy Quote 2008-01-13 07:46:38 PM
Obama is getting thefree pass that hasbeen associated with Clinton, they play the race card for him...as do many of his supporters. It is offending that just because SC has blacks make up 50% of th eelctorate for the D field, he has that in the bag.

Get back to me when you finish English 101. Then I can truly understand just how stupid you really are.

Miles D Davis Jr.: Tatsuma, that is a throughly bullshiat response. In the first Republican debate Romney got into an argument with Thompson and Guliani over "the terrorists" which ended with Romney saying he'd increase the size of gitmo and Guliani saying that he'd definitely use "enhanced techniques" against terrorists.

What was most appalling to me was the ruckus cheering that went on after they made such ridiculous statements, but that's neither here nor there.

Here's another good one (new window)
FTA:
I watched tonight's debate with the Frank Luntz focus group at the famed Merrimack Diner, while about 50 Ron Paul supporters--angry that their guy hadn't been included--ranted and raved outside. I"m not sure this was a representative group of Republicans. They seemed pretty conservative. And they...Just. Loved. Romney. Most of those who came in undecided had switched to Mitt by the end of the show. They just adored his position on illegal immigration (their dials plummeted when McCain said we had to be "humane.")

Hillary's whole argument against Obama always amounts to " Obama is almost as bad as I am and I have been bad longer than he has." Do we really want to support a message like that?

Tatsuma has a thing against Ron Paul because he can't stomach gentiles that aren't owned by AIPAC.

go away

SilentStrider: is there anything Ron Paul can't do?

Win the Presidency?

FuriousGeorge945: Miles D Davis Jr.: Tatsuma, that is a throughly bullshiat response. In the first Republican debate Romney got into an argument with Thompson and Guliani over "the terrorists" which ended with Romney saying he'd increase the size of gitmo and Guliani saying that he'd definitely use "enhanced techniques" against terrorists.

What was most appalling to me was the ruckus cheering that went on after they made such ridiculous statements, but that's neither here nor there.

Here's another good one (new window)
FTA:
I watched tonight's debate with the Frank Luntz focus group at the famed Merrimack Diner, while about 50 Ron Paul supporters--angry that their guy hadn't been included--ranted and raved outside. I"m not sure this was a representative group of Republicans. They seemed pretty conservative. And they...Just. Loved. Romney. Most of those who came in undecided had switched to Mitt by the end of the show. They just adored his position on illegal immigration (their dials plummeted when McCain said we had to be "humane.")

I would vomit for my country if I hadn't heard people say worse stuff about illegal immigrants in Mexico. Not that I don't feel for the plight of the average migrant worker, who works harder than 90% of Americans, but Mexico treats their immigrants worse than we do ours.

Not much of a point, other than that most of this world is stupidly xenophobic and would probably love a good episode of Monday Night Rehabilitation (see Idiocracy if missed).


The torture/Gitmo shiat means more to me because they actually affect our international opinion (insert joke about international opinion here). Whereas most everyone hates illegal immigrants (see France, Kuwait, Japan, etc.), most don't like torture and flagrant asswiping of the geneva convention.

Luckily we have our Tatsumas of the world to show us the most stretched and warped relativistic points of view for US matters, but not one ounce of understanding for Palestinian affairs.

Post-script: I am Jewish, I just despise hypocrites and I didn't mean to threadjack.

rush_limbaugh_sent_me: Obama is playing the race card,


Citation, please.


you would have to think Obama would win out as blacks have a greater claim to victimhood.


Some say it is women that have the greater victimhood.


Do liberals still predict a Hillary/Obama ticket? :)

When was that predicted?

Tatsuma: The answer is: Ron Paul

In fact, the answer to everything is Ron Paul.

I thought it was 9/11.

rush_limbaugh_sent_me: Hopefully he will be excluded from future Republican debates as he seems more interested in beating up on the Republican party than being the nominee.

Because squashing criticism is more important than speaking the truth?

rush_limbaugh_sent_me: What I will never understand about leftists is why they have to twist every issue to make it about racism. People would oppose illegal immigration from Mexico even if they were white. They are breaking our laws and if a conservative says that's not right, a liberal will call him a racist or xenophobe. Nobody is against legal immigration, but we are against illegal immigration.

cite a reference, please, where a significant portion of liberals have accused someone of racism simply because they were against illegal immigration.

keithgabryelski:
He's trolling, randomly. Just ignore the guy.