What? Vinyl? With all the DRM stuff they put on those?

Again???

I have a USB turntable, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread

This is old news. Cashed is right.

I seem to remember an article like this a year ago, and another a year before that

IN before the snobby audiophiles


/vinyl collector.
//indier than thou
///snobby audiophile

Ron: Well, whattya got here, y'know, you got "Don Ho: Live At Honolulu", you got "Jerry Vale Sings Italian Love Songs" you got Sergio Mendes, now come on...

Kramer: Wait, wait, wait... Sergio Mendes has a cult following.

Newman: They follow him like a cult.

Kramer: He can't even walk down the street in South America...

Ron: Look, that's his problem, alright? Now you don't like it, too bad.

/First thing I thought of

I carry one around in my pocket when I jog, no distortion and no compression. Come to think of it no sound at all.

People are getting vinyl for nostalgia purposes, so the title is completely misleading.

Sure, it may be coming back, but only when you're sitting at home, have time to kill, and can find the vinyl.

The rest of the time, you're still listening to your ipod.

Excellent. I'll be able to rip tracks with PlayDoh!

cue the audiophiles who say it sounds better anyway....blah blah blah, i cant justify spending 20,000 dollars on speakers and the like to acheive this.


/ i am convinced it does sound a little better, but it depends on the recording equipment that was used and the instruments played with as well, it does sound more true to life. its good to know people who waste money on this stuff, just dont get snarky in their faces about it.

Vinyl records are now making a comeback

No they're not. A very small part of the market may like the nostalgic value of vinyl, but that's about it.

A few other may 'tinker' with vinyl before realizing the reason we moved away from it - it's inconvenient, and prone to scratches, nicks, pops, etc.

Vinyl is dead, just like Elvis. Some people need to get a life.

Does this mean I won't be looked down upon when I blare one ABBA record for days on end?

FTA:
Vinyl releases often come with photos and booklets that allow fans to feel more connected to a favorite artist.


If you read that and your immediate reaction was to post a Ric Romero reference, you are old.

i am 25 and have never stopped buying records. many (i hate to do this, ugh) "indie" labels put out all their artist's albums on vinyl. and not just totally obscure bands either.

have i convinced you how cool i am yet ?
indie indie indie blah blah blah i'm just saying.

The stuff about vinyl sounding better is, more or less, nonsense. Vinyl sounds "warmer" because it adds more distortion. And as for the "social benefits", uhm, you can play digital music over speakers too. It doesn't have to be played over headphones.

I own exactly one vinyl record, which has not been (and probably never will be) released in any other format. I bought it to convert it, and decided that it would be a waste to throw it out in case I ever needed to convert it again. But otherwise, color me unimpressed by a medium that degrades a little each time you play it, that is way too large to bring with you anywhere, that adds crackle to music, and whose main advantages are that it can add "warm" distortion, and that it feeds the false nostalgia of college kids who were born after CDs were already prevalent.

lol vinyl vinyl lol

I love how I can listen to my turntable anywhere, the car, the bus, while I'm working out... wait, that's my Ipod I'm thinking of. What I like about vinyl is how it sounds great the first or the thousandth time I play it...wait, Ipod again. What was it I liked about vinyl again? The cumbersome size? The fragility? Their zombie-killing properties?

"...used LPs go for as little as a penny--perfect for a teenager's budget"

I can see it now. Hordes of thugs, punks, skaters and the wannabes lining up to get their copy of "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins"

/mr. spock

This was happening when I was in college...7-8 years ago...*yawn*

Vinly never died, it just moved to electronic music

cashed: People have been spinning them for techno for decades.

this

guytoronto: Vinyl records are now making a comeback

No they're not. A very small part of the market may like the nostalgic value of vinyl, but that's about it.

A few other may 'tinker' with vinyl before realizing the reason we moved away from it - it's inconvenient, and prone to scratches, nicks, pops, etc.

Vinyl is dead, just like Elvis. Some people need to get a life.

I have a hard time believing that vinyl is making any comeback, but to say it's dead isn't exactly true. With all the sound compression crap that goes into today's mp3s, etc, it's no wonder that some people still love vinyls.

/don't have a vinyl collection
//or a record player

used LPs go for as little as a penny--perfect for a teenager's budget

Right or wrong, that's 1 cent more than most teenagers expect to pay for their favorite digital music...

seriously though, where else will you find such bad ass art. The entire package is whats appealing to original LPs. For instance, Dead Kennedy's Bedtime for Democracy had a huge statue of liberty with all kinds of amusing things goin on, not to mention all of the DK albums had great pull-outs. Crass records often included full posters, patches, and others released picture discs and they still do. I still have the Cheech and Chong Big Bambu paper, probably never use it, but nice to know its there.

try getting that in an mp3


Countless metal bands had such good art, Maiden, Megadeth, Pushead, et al.

I enjoy vinyl, I'm 22 and I still collect them, i enjoy the crackling sound ya'da ya'da, as for it making a come back I highly doubt that.

I have my own lathe and cut half-speed masters so I'm getting a .. never mind.

PhiloeBedoe: I love how I can listen to my turntable anywhere, the car, the bus, while I'm working out... wait, that's my Ipod I'm thinking of. What I like about vinyl is how it sounds great the first or the thousandth time I play it...wait, Ipod again.

My turntable doesn't come with sheissy earbuds that negate any potential benefit. It always amazes me to see people with those earbuds, you might as well listen to your music by telephone. No highs, no lows, it's earbuds.

Analog > Digital

My '72 Vega has an eight-track in it so I'm really getting a kick outta... a loser.

Bought one yesterday.

/25

Vinyl sounds much better than CDs... in the 80s, before oversampling, dither, and noise shaping. Now? Not so much.

grend123: The stuff about vinyl sounding better is, more or less, nonsense. Vinyl sounds "warmer" because it adds more distortion. And as for the "social benefits", uhm, you can play digital music over speakers too. It doesn't have to be played over headphones.

Yes, thank you. I don't know about nonsense, it just sounds different. It does however sound less like listening to the live instruments because it adds significant coloration as you said.

No, they're not.

grend123: I own exactly one vinyl record, which has not been (and probably never will be) released in any other format.

Let me guess..."Andy Rooney Sings: Songs For Swingin' Haters (Featuring: "Y'ever Notice?)"

No, they're not.

Vinyl was making a comeback up until a couple of years ago when Serato came out with final scratch live. Its a piece of software that lets you use a piece of timecoded vinyl to interface with an MP3 on your computer. Looks like vinyl, acts like vinyl, feels like vinyl etc.......go into ANY club and look at what the DJ is doing....there is gonna be a GUI on his computer showing two big white rotating circles and a green background....thats serato.

Furthermroe, most DJs use Pioneer CDJs now anyway (CD turntables)...

Vinyl is too expensive, and is becoming really hard to find. (the only record shop in phoenix wants 30 bucks for the newest Tiesto album).


GET WITH THE TIMES, TIME!

someone mentioned "Zombie -killing properties " ?

wilderness: i am 25 and have never stopped buying records. many (i hate to do this, ugh) "indie" labels put out all their artist's albums on vinyl. and not just totally obscure bands either.

have i convinced you how cool i am yet ?
indie indie indie blah blah blah i'm just saying.

I only buy from bands that work on phonographs, and are only purchasable by going on the indie underground railroad.

The current going rate is three skulls of Guitar Hero players for one album.

And here I am with 7000+ thirty-three-anna-thirds from '60s-'90s in my storage shelves.

\HOTZ DAYUMMMMMM!!!
\\now, if they bring back 4" wide necktiez, i can retirez rich!!!1!1

Are the mods just watching Slashdot today for greenlights?

"Bad sound on an iPod has had an impact on a lot of people going back to vinyl,"

yeah that's not the ipod making the music sound like crap, that's the original person that ripped the mp3 at a terrible encoding rate.

the_sidewinder: I seem to remember an article like this a year few days ago, and another a year few weeks before that

I guess the Admins keep hoping something better will come of this? Maybe something new and exciting might get contributed to a thread if it keeps going green? Not to insult them or anything; maybe they are taking a survey of how many damn times the same "stories" keep recirculating for Drew's follow-up book.

My first reaction was *yawn*. I dropped $good$. on the last USB turntable at Hot Topic, solely for the purpose of recovering vinyl recordings that have been lost to time, like my wife's copy of David Bowie reading "Peter and the Wolf", or Dad's copy of "Taproot Manuscript" by Neil Diamond (they went to U.B. together,) or my last good copy of the Buckingham-Nicks album, never released in its entirety on CD, since something keeps holding up Mr. Buckingham from getting Polydor to release their deathgrip on the master tapes.

My only beef with laquer/vinyl is the damn scratch issue. Dust can be removed; scratches and warping are forever. If they could ever come up with a better way to sample high-end sounds digitally for CD's, or find a better way to perfectly recreate an analogue playback from digital, then I would be ALL over that.

Last night for my Dad's 60th BD, I dropped about 4 GB of music onto hs computer, pretty much his entire 60's and 70's LP collection, mostly ripped from my own CD's.

I grew up with a monster set of earphones RCA-jacked into his Marantz, listening to some amazing stuff from both his LP's, and the many radio stations that monster could pick up at night. I had almost 100 channels from S.C. to Orlando, all playing the best of the Punk/New Wave era, and I miss it so; I cried when a stray lightning side-strike took out the entire right channel of that thing. Blew a vac tube or something. Now my vision of the night while listening to music just isn't the same without the orange glow of light eminating from inside that beast, probably bathing me in X-rays while I jammed out. Hell, it even had the fancy-scmantzy "super stack spindle", where you could stack about 10 LP's on the turn table, and it would drop them one-at-a-time and replace the needle, every time the last one finished. (Only draw-back was that you only got to hear one side that way-- a definite plus to the invention of the CD, or auto-rotating tape deck head.

/Damn I feel old now.

It's not just that vinyl has a "warm" sound, the sound is fundamentally different. Besides, if you know the record will wear out eventually you are sure to listen as closely as you ca It's not just that vinyl has a "warm" sound, the sound is fundamentally different. Besides, if you know the record will wear out eventually you are sure to listen as closely as you ca It's not just that vinyl has a "warm" sound, the sound is fundamentally different. Besides, if you know the record will wear out eventually you are sure to listen as closely as you can.

man, I can't wait to install a turntable in my car....., gonna need to make some room. Bah, who needs a glove box anyway. Now I just need to avoid the slightest pebbles and I'm all set.

Didn't we just do this last week?

If anything, this 'trend' indicates that a growing number of people may just be wanting to sit down and actually listen to music, rather than have it be background noise while they go about their business.

Fancy that.

And let me say this before anybody even starts.....


VINYL DOES NOT SOUND BETTER THAN CDS ANYMOER!

Vinyl used to be cut from studio masters (magnetic tape)....meaning an analog medium all the way from the Mic to the press....

Now a record pressing facility just gets a CD of the music and cuts from that....


Yes, you do get a "warmth" out of vinyl (vibrations from the needle extend outwards and bounce back into it....with a couple of milliseconds of delay....this gives it a 'warmth' because it is like stacking tracks on top of one another.

Vinyl has been making a comeback every year since 1995.

I remember when Vitalogy came out.

/VINYL IS TOTALLY COMING BACK DUDE THIS IS THE YEAR

kab: Didn't we just do this last week?

If anything, this 'trend' indicates that a growing number of people may just be wanting to sit down and actually listen to music, rather than have it be background noise while they go about their business.

Fancy that.

How are those new Monster cables working out?

/Are they gold plated?

I have raided many a Goodwill and Habitat for Humanity for old copies of this masterpiece. So far I have collected nine copies of the original record.



Trivia note: When Rocko starts tossing those records around inside the apartment in Boondock Saints, you'll see a copy of this record on the rack.

Blhack: And let me say this before anybody even starts.....


VINYL DOES NOT SOUND BETTER THAN CDS ANYMOER!

Vinyl used to be cut from studio masters (magnetic tape)....meaning an analog medium all the way from the Mic to the press....

Now a record pressing facility just gets a CD of the music and cuts from that....


Actually, the mastering process for vinyl is a bit different than for cd, so this isn't really accurate. And there are bands that DO still record to tape, its just quite the rarity in this day.