C'mon, post a "V for Vendetta" reference...

Good job, Great Britain! Way to out-Saddam, well, Saddam!

Subby is a moran.

in other news, the football association to be expanded by 400 teams.

Why shouldn't Immigration officers catch illegal immigrants? Is it because the word 'van' is involved? These guys are getting them as they come off lorries, not cruising the streets of Birmingham as the headline would imply.

Also, IT IS THE FARKING DAILY MAIL!

What is it about the term "illegal alien" that seems open for interpretation to you people?

Meh. England most certainly does have a Constitution. Some of it is unwritten but codified through centuries of legal tradition. Why do you think the deed to your mother's house says "to have and to hold?" The bulk of the English constitution is written, just not all in one document like the US constitution. Remember civics class? England is a constitutional monarchy and all that? You are sentenced to keeping Natalie Portman all shaved up using your teeth.

Can somebody explain to me in what way it's unconstitutional for immigration officers with police powers to detain illegal immigrants* ?

On the face of it, you seem to have the mechanisms in place to accomplish much the same ?


*no sarcasm is intended or implied, I really don't know what submitter is getting at.

About farking time! Subby is clearly confused about what the word "illegal" means.

it's because of the word "prison" is used the subby is assuming rights are being violated

Apparently we don't have to worry about some pesky constitution either.

If they don't want illegals in Britain they should put up a wall or dig a moat. People seem to think it will work here.

Yeah, isn't that their job, to pick up illegals?

Uh, that "Pesky" Constitution doesn't apply to non citizens, that's OUR right, not any foreigners right, if they want it they have to earn it through citizenship.

I wish we would actually round up and deport illegal immigrants here. I don't understand what's unconstitutional about it, I don't remember an amendment which guarantees completely open borders.

Need some Children of Men screenshots.

More Natalie Portman please.

/unavailable...

Prison vans are to cruise the streets of Britain searching for illegal - immigrants.

The "mobile detention centres" will aim to catch recently arrived foreigners as they emerge from peoplesmuggling lorries.

Immigration officers will hold the suspects inside the vans until background checks are performed.

If they are found to be here illegally, they will be taken by police to a major detention centre in Oakington, Cambridgeshire, before being repatriated.

The US has something like this. It's called the "Border Patrol".

wow the British are doing something right!!! bravo!!

illegal residency, not yours....

FormlessOne: C'mon, post a "V for Vendetta" reference...

Good job, Great Britain! Way to out-Saddam, well, Saddam!

Yeah because they are putting them in wood chippers and gassing them and oh, wait, they aren't? They are just returning them to their own countries? Wow, I must be misinformed abut how Saddam actually tortured people...

trentrockport: About farking time! Subby is clearly confused about what the word "illegal" means.

No violation of the law is ever justified at any time or for any reason.

There are a million reasons to support or oppose many things. Very seldom is "it's bad because it's illegal" a good choice.

The Constitution protects citizens. All laws are made for citizens of the state. Other countries need to fark off and keep their chattel in line.

England prevails.

Jammybee:Why shouldn't Immigration officers catch illegal immigrants?

There's nothing more fascist than having visa laws and enforcing them.

/You know who else required visas?
//oh yea -- most countries do...

this would work better if they shot them from the van and kept driving

Why can't we have this policy here?

It seems like being an Illegal Mexican is about the only thing remotely illegal you can do without getting busted for it.

Scienceman123: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

[TotalFark] Quote 2008-01-12 04:27:07 PM
trentrockport: About farking time! Subby is clearly confused about what the word "illegal" means.

Relatively Obscure: No violation of the law is ever justified at any time or for any reason.

There are a million reasons to support or oppose many things. Very seldom is "it's bad because it's illegal" a good choice.

I didn't want to have to provide a lengthy explanation. Suffice to say there's good reason why they're called illegal aliens. Apart from the fact that the ones who actually work depress wages and commit identity theft to do so, they commit a disproportionate share of crime, and consume more than their share of public services, not that they should have a "share" in the first place.

My hovercraft is full of eels

trentrockport: Relatively Obscure: No violation of the law is ever justified at any time or for any reason.

There are a million reasons to support or oppose many things. Very seldom is "it's bad because it's illegal" a good choice.

I didn't want to have to provide a lengthy explanation. Suffice to say there's good reason why they're called illegal aliens. Apart from the fact that the ones who actually work depress wages and commit identity theft to do so, they commit a disproportionate share of crime, and consume more than their share of public services, not that they should have a "share" in the first place.



Okay, fair enough. As long as you know why you believe it is/should be illegal, I'm basically coo'.

If you are in the country illegally, the only thing the courts will decide is the length and type of your sentence. Why not just throw them right in the clink? They're ILLEGAL.

I'm a bit of a libtard, but I really wish they'd do this to the day laborers that choke the sidewalks on the main thoroughfare nearest their crime ridden ghettos around here. Sheriff Joe, I'm talking to you.

/wasn't racist until I moved to Arizona
//MS-13 is operating in my neighborhood.

They said they were only going to pickup the illegal ones!

Samsaran: See this why we need a compulsory National ID card.

To make everything easier to steal?

Gothmolly: If you are in the country illegally, the only thing the courts will decide is the length and type of your sentence. Why not just throw them right in the clink? They're ILLEGAL.

It's also okay to kill them or keep them as house-slaves.

Unless, of course, you figure, y'know, that we're *better* than they are.

gyoza1138: /wasn't racist until I moved to Arizona
//MS-13 is operating in my neighborhood.


Psst. The MS-13 aren't a race. Neither are the KKK. Neither are the BGDs.

Is there any chance you could not greenlight stuff from the Daily Mail. They are nut jobs of the highest order and have not changed much since the days they supported Hittler before the war. Its read by the kinda people that think the muslims are 30 seconds away from taking over the country because there isnt enough prayer in schools. You know morons.

Arresting criminals? How dare they! It's almost as though they have respect for Law and Civilization!

Samsaran: See this why we need a compulsory National ID card. It will clearly show your citizenship or immigration status. Without the card, no bank account, no government services including drivers licenses and no employment. Employers who hire anyone without the card will be subject to huge fines for each offense and IRS levies. Criminal charges for violators of immigration laws. If you enter illegally you are automatically barred from applying for citizenship or asylum for five years. Jail for second offenses. Legal immigration and asylum for those who deserve it and show respect for our nations laws. Jail and deportation for those who do not.

We have those, you can't get your damned power turned on without a Social Security Card.

I just got out of prison so I can tell you teh sausage is one of the best meals and the showers are teh best in prison.

/'srsly?

Damn, this must be stopped! This sort of thing might catch on, and then... the US might start doing it! That can't happen!

/Sarcasm

Relatively Obscure: gyoza1138: /wasn't racist until I moved to Arizona
//MS-13 is operating in my neighborhood.


Psst. The MS-13 aren't a race. Neither are the KKK. Neither are the BGDs.

PSSSSSTT. MS-13 are a bunch of mexicans, and people who enjoy the company and gang lifestyle of gangbanger mexicans.

/Not a racist comment, merely the facts jack
//Try the history channel, they love running this special

funny... in this country (USA), people seem to think that our constitution applies to everyone, universally. However, they don't take into account that if our constitution was supposed to be applied universally (to cover all people of all nations), then we would be allowed to tax all people of all nations, and have the free and clear law-abiding ability to invade other "countries" (states) at will.

However, we can't, and we don't (have the law abiding ability). So, since it doesn't apply to all people, their non-existant "rights" can and should be violated (aside from "human rights" but thats a whole 'nother thread). stop yer biatchin' and cut my lawn...
~ciao

Samsaran: A lesson can be learned from history. A little more than century and a half ago Texas was a northern province of Mexico. Americans who settled there (legally) were required to renounce slavery and convert to Catholicism. Soon however legal immigrants were far outnumbered by illegal immigrants from the U.S. Within twenty years Texas was in rebellion and then a slave state in the United States. This is what happens when you don't control your borders. The Mexicans learned this lesson well and now it has come back to haunt the U.S.

Ironic that Texas has the only amendment in their constitution that declares they have the right to secede from the union any time they wish.

HartRend: Uh, that "Pesky" Constitution doesn't apply to non citizens, that's OUR right, not any foreigners right, if they want it they have to earn it through citizenship.

I think you should read up on the Guantanamo bay cases.

HartRend: PSSSSSTT. MS-13 are a bunch of mexicans, and people who enjoy the company and gang lifestyle of gangbanger mexicans.

/Not a racist comment, merely the facts jack
//Try the history channel, they love running this special

Pssst. I know exactly who they are. I worked in a prison in the South, and I've met my share. They're still not a race. Being racist against Mexicans because some Mexicans are MS-13? That doesn't make any more sense than hating white people because some white people formed the Aryan Nation/Brotherhood, the KKK, the Skinheads, etc. That's all I'm saying--that your racism is still wrong.