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(CNN) Interesting South Carolina's Republican governor praises the candidacy of Barack Obama, has not endorsed any of the GOP candidates for president   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 59
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Kilmore_Trout 2008-01-12 02:36:33 AM  
Somebody's hoping for an ambassadorship to Tahiti.

 
Folderol [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 03:09:24 AM  
Mark Sanford rocks.

/proudly on a first name basis with the gov.

 
Echoic 2008-01-12 04:17:51 AM  
This is good to see. It's inspiring to see people across the aisle support someone because of their message, if nothing else.

Definitely a break from the last 7 years of bitter partisanship.

 
Wil_Mahfingahdo 2008-01-12 04:24:58 AM  
A smart man about to be smeared.

 
Sir Cumference the Flatulent [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 04:40:13 AM  
He's just another hack who follows whichever way the wind blows.

 
Wil_Mahfingahdo 2008-01-12 04:45:30 AM  
See. ^^^^^

 
cltbuilder 2008-01-12 05:02:51 AM  
Wil_Mahfingahdo: A smart man about to be smeared.

Obvious.

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: He's just another hack who follows whichever way the wind blows.

Obligatory.

 
captainktainer 2008-01-12 05:03:20 AM  
See this?

This is why the Democrats should nominate Obama.

 
cltbuilder 2008-01-12 05:06:22 AM  
captainktainer: See this?

This is why the Democrats should nominate Obama.


I agree. It's easier to fight government when they're all working together to screw us over.

 
USP .45 2008-01-12 05:38:04 AM  
He's doing it wrong.

 
Chaussman 2008-01-12 05:53:43 AM  
Whoa.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 05:54:56 AM  
That was quite a nice, well thought out statement he made. But as Wil_Mahfingahdo mentioned earlier, he'll get smeared for it.

 
FuriousGeorge945 2008-01-12 06:18:43 AM  
It was a very nice and well thought out statement, but do I really have to be the cynic who comes in here and points out the fact that, in a state with a large black population that still votes overwhelmingly democratic, isn't it a pretty damn good political move to try to score some points with that demographic? After all, he's really praising the idea of a a black man with a real chance at being president more than praising Obama himself.

/just throwin' it out there

 
keithgabryelski [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 07:44:59 AM  

His op-ed is barely an endorsement

Obama's symbolism here (new window)

By MARK SANFORD - Guest columnist
I won't be voting for Barack Obama for president. There are too many vital issues - from taxes and spending, to immigration and national security, to traditional values - on which we have fundamentally different points of view about the right direction for our country. However, as the presidential campaign trail now makes its turn toward this state, and as South Carolinians make their final decisions on whom to vote for, it's worth pausing to take notice of something important that the Obama candidacy means for our corner of America.

South Carolinians are rightly proud of our state's rich heritage and history, dating from the earliest Colonial times and our ancestors' heroic efforts in the Revolutionary War right up to the present day. I say this because we're a state that loves history, and one of the nicest parts of my job lies in constantly being exposed to the extraordinary achievements of South Carolinians past and present. In the Obama candidacy, there is a potentially history-making quality that we should reflect on. It is one that is especially relevant on the sensitive topic of race - because South Carolina and the South as a whole bear a heavier historical burden than the rest of our country on that front.

As governor, I try to keep that historical burden in mind, because being sensitive to race has both policy and symbolic implications. I strongly believe that policies such as school choice and reforms to allow Medicaid recipients additional health care options will have a disproportionately positive impact on African-Americans in our state. Others disagree, favoring a larger role for government than the private sector, and those legitimate policy disagreements will always be with us in the political arena.

On the symbolic front: Having a more diversified Cabinet, issuing the first formal apology for the Orangeburg Massacre and traveling across the state line to Georgia to address the South Carolina NAACP convention have all represented small steps aimed at building bridges across waters that have divided us for too long as South Carolinians. In short, just like hundreds before me and scores of others trying in their own ways, I try to build bridges where I can - but I write because it all pales in comparison to the change that may be before us.

Sen. Obama is not running for president on the basis of his race, and no one should cast their ballot for or against him on that basis. Nonetheless, what is happening in the initial success of his candidacy should not escape us. Within many of our own lifetimes, a man who looked like Barack Obama had a difficult time even using the public restrooms in our state. What is happening may well say a lot about America, and I do think as an early primary state we should earnestly shoulder our responsibility in determining how this part of history is ultimately written.

Gov. Sanford's Web site is scgovernor.com; he has not endorsed any presidential candidate.

 
Rodeodoc 2008-01-12 08:54:31 AM  
Echoic: This is good to see. It's inspiring to see people across the aisle support someone because of their message, if nothing else.

Definitely a break from the last 7 years of bitter partisanship.


I believe Obama will unite the middle - people from both sides of the political fence, but not the wing nuts. McCain has the same ability, but he maybe leans a little more to the right.

 
Hang On Voltaire [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 09:01:08 AM  
Echoic: This is good to see. It's inspiring to see people across the aisle support someone because of their message, if nothing else.

Definitely a break from the last 7 years of bitter partisanship.


I agree that was why I liked Lieberman endorsing McCain

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 09:35:28 AM  
You'd think he'd endorse Ron Paul. Sanford's got a libertarian streak, from what I hear. Not enough of one to risk re-election, though.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 09:40:27 AM  
McManus_brothers: You'd think he'd endorse Ron Paul. Sanford's got a libertarian streak, from what I hear. Not enough of one to risk re-election, though.

Proof the in a discussion on cow flatuence offending senior citizens a Ron Paul supporter can bring up Ron Paul.

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 10:04:56 AM  
globalwarmingpraiser: Proof the in a discussion on cow flatuence offending senior citizens a Ron Paul supporter can bring up Ron Paul.

What? You must be the guy who writes porno spam emails.

 
abb3w [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 10:15:19 AM  
McManus_brothers: You'd think he'd endorse Ron Paul. Sanford's got a libertarian streak, from what I hear. Not enough of one to risk re-election, though.

There are enough questions about Ron Paul and racial issues (most concise and damning indictment I've seen is here) that given his position on Obama, this guy wouldn't touch RP with the rod Archimedes wanted.

 
Rndhed 2008-01-12 10:15:37 AM  
Hang On Voltaire: I agree that was why I liked Lieberman endorsing McCain

Lieberman is an independent.

And a major league douche.

Oh, and if someone can ask this Sanford fellow what he means by having differences with Obama about "traditional values" that would be great.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 10:23:47 AM  
I forgot that Ron Paul supporters are also more sensitive than that moron who did the picking on Britney Spears thing. Am I forgiven if I perform 2 Ludwig Von Mises and a Thomas Jefferson

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-01-12 10:27:59 AM  
Hang On Voltaire: Echoic: This is good to see. It's inspiring to see people across the aisle support someone because of their message, if nothing else.

Definitely a break from the last 7 years of bitter partisanship.

I agree that was why I liked Lieberman endorsing McCain


So why is an independent who has consistently fallen in line behind the White House supporting a Republican a break from partisanship?

 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 10:31:23 AM  
FTA: "Nonetheless, what is happening in the initial success of his candidacy should not escape us. Within many of our own lifetimes, a man who looked like Barack Obama had a difficult time even using the public restrooms in our state.

Yeap, I remember the men, women, colored restrooms up in Tennessee as a kid myself.

/Cool column from a sitting Republican governor.
//Governor Charlie Crist in Florida is pretty decent too.

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 11:04:38 AM  
globalwarmingpraiser: I forgot that Ron Paul supporters are also more sensitive than that moron who did the picking on Britney Spears thing. Am I forgiven if I perform 2 Ludwig Von Mises and a Thomas Jefferson

Account created: 2008-01-10 14:28:23

Damn, I got suckered by the troll. For the record, I am a Ron Paul fan, I'm not a truther, and I couldn't care less what you post. Just pointing out that your Boobies didn't make a whole lot of sense.

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 11:06:50 AM  
Ace Frehley's Ghost: So why is an independent who has consistently fallen in line behind the White House supporting a Republican a break from partisanship?

Consistently fallen in line...on one issue. Let me know when Joe starts pushing for abortion bans and gay marriage amendments, etc. I love how Dems tear this guy a new one for 95% liberal, not 100%.

 
The Dreaded Rear Admiral [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-01-12 11:24:46 AM  
As a former denizen of the state of South Carolina, I can state with some authority that Sanford's one of the good Republicans. He's somewhat of a maverick and actually challenges the Republican state legislature on issues he feels strongly about.

 
cltbuilder 2008-01-12 11:32:38 AM  
McManus_brothers: You'd think he'd endorse Ron Paul. Sanford's got a libertarian streak, from what I hear. Not enough of one to risk re-election, though.

He's said he won't endorse anyone. There's a letter writing campaign underway to change his mind. Maybe if Paul wins SC. Yeah yeah.

 
cltbuilder 2008-01-12 11:33:15 AM  
The Dreaded Rear Admiral: As a former denizen of the state of South Carolina, I can state with some authority that Sanford's one of the good Republicans. He's somewhat of a maverick and actually challenges the Republican state legislature on issues he feels strongly about.

My parents live there. Lived there 21 years myself. They adore Sanford.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 11:40:52 AM  
McManus_brothers: globalwarmingpraiser: I forgot that Ron Paul supporters are also more sensitive than that moron who did the picking on Britney Spears thing. Am I forgiven if I perform 2 Ludwig Von Mises and a Thomas Jefferson

Account created: 2008-01-10 14:28:23

Damn, I got suckered by the troll. For the record, I am a Ron Paul fan, I'm not a truther, and I couldn't care less what you post. Just pointing out that your Boobies didn't make a whole lot of sense.


Sorry I started this account recently. That makes me a troll. Were you a troll when you joined? I deal with Ron Paul people elsewhere McManus.

 
Ace Frehley's Ghost 2008-01-12 11:41:32 AM  
McManus_brothers: Ace Frehley's Ghost: So why is an independent who has consistently fallen in line behind the White House supporting a Republican a break from partisanship?

Consistently fallen in line...on one issue. Let me know when Joe starts pushing for abortion bans and gay marriage amendments, etc. I love how Dems tear this guy a new one for 95% liberal, not 100%.


Are we talking about the same guy? Are we both discussing, "Trent Lott and Tom DeLay's favorite Democrat"? The one who is supposed to be speaking at the 2008 Republican National Convention?

 
McManus_brothers [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 11:58:20 AM  
globalwarmingpraiser: Sorry I started this account recently. That makes me a troll. Were you a troll when you joined? I deal with Ron Paul people elsewhere McManus.

My apologies. Your post didn't make sense, that's all, and I mistook you for a troll. I will give you credit for knowing who Ludwig von Mises is, though.

/look at your profile
//spelling/grammar errors don't help your case

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 12:03:48 PM  
McManus_brothers: globalwarmingpraiser: Sorry I started this account recently. That makes me a troll. Were you a troll when you joined? I deal with Ron Paul people elsewhere McManus.

My apologies. Your post didn't make sense, that's all, and I mistook you for a troll. I will give you credit for knowing who Ludwig von Mises is, though.

/look at your profile
//spelling/grammar errors don't help your case


Not only do I know who Ludwig Von Mises is, I tend to agree with his theory's. I also think Dr. Paul is right on alot of issues. Unfortunately he tries to apply logic to an enemy that is illogical. Ron Paul supporters tend to think that means you want to hunt Dr. Paul down and bludgeon him. Ty didn't realize i had left part out of my profile.

 
SubBass49 2008-01-12 12:05:56 PM  
For a Republican official in the south to come out and say that, I'd be thinking about HERO tag status...that takes some gigantic balls.

That said...Obama is the type of president that can heal the divisive nature of politics and help us to worry less about farking over the other party, and more aobut running our country in a way that can recover from the last several years of the chimp "running" things.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 12:10:27 PM  
What about the human lech machine before the chimp?

 
cmb53208 2008-01-12 01:58:24 PM  
Having grown up in South Carolina, I have a great deal of respect for Mark Sanford. It appears that at some point in his life he may have been good at something unlike most politicians.

But given the fact he has intellect and a degree of competence, I don't think he should count on another term in Columbia.

 
Hayes 2008-01-12 02:21:43 PM  
globalwarmingpraiser

It is not a totally non-Paul related topic, because Paulites have been discussed sending a petition to Sanford to endorse him. So we are maybe jealous, but not non-sequitorially jealous.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 02:35:55 PM  
I guess obamowned

 
guesser 2008-01-12 02:39:34 PM  
I like the way that SC Governor thinks, but who's this Ron Paul guy? Is he one of those, loser fundamentalist republicans getting 5% in the poles by ranting about how our government has too much control? Everywhere I turn it's Paul this, Paul that; Look, he ain't gonna win! No way, no how. Get over it! So we can focus on the real issues and not on these side-show freaks.

 
Larofeticus 2008-01-12 03:05:49 PM  
I've meet Mr. Sanford a few times and heard him speak to small groups. Pay attention to the kinds of topics he chooses to emphasize and the wording he tends to use, which tend to focus on things like individual freedoms and the nessecity to protect them, and the importance of responsible fiscal policies in government. It's quite clear he and Ron Paul sympathise with one another; heck they had a very similar voting record when in congress together.

However, Mr. Sanford has a good bit more political sense on a national level than Paul, and knows full well a Paul endorsment (or endorsing anyone in the doomed republican field) would probably shut his career down. He's also quite a bit more eloquent.

I hope that he runs for president in 2012. Ron Paul is to Mark Sanford as Ronald Reagan is to Barry Goldwater.

 
EmmaLou 2008-01-12 03:37:50 PM  
I don't see anything in there written as a praise. It's pandering to both sides of the aisle. Racists can read that in one way and Obama fans can read it in another. Meh.

 
PanicMan 2008-01-12 04:25:04 PM  
SubBass49: For a Republican official in the south to come out and say that, I'd be thinking about HERO tag status...that takes some gigantic balls.

That said...Obama is the type of president that can heal the divisive nature of politics and help us to worry less about farking over the other party, and more aobut running our country in a way that can recover from the last several years of the chimp "running" things.


Seriously, this is a good thing people. Back off of the politics for a second. He's saying, "Hey let's not look like D-bags. Let's show the world we've progressed." I'm as jaded as the rest of you, but he's trying to do a good thing here. I can support that.

 
lerry [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 05:00:37 PM  
EmmaLou: I don't see anything in there written as a praise. It's pandering to both sides of the aisle. Racists can read that in one way and Obama fans can read it in another. Meh.

You heard it here first, folks!

If you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist!

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 05:21:46 PM  
Actually shouldn't Obama get more votes per vote cast because blacks are under represented in Goverenment. Oh wait Mr. Obama actually wants to be judged on his merits. And he speaks proper english. He isn't Black Aks Al Sharpton.

/In case noone can tell I respect Sen. Obama.

 
EwoksSuck 2008-01-12 07:06:30 PM  
Obama already has cross over appeal and I would not be surprised if Obama offered the VP slot to a moderate Republican like Senator Chuck Hagel if he gets the nomination. He would defeat McCain or any other Republican ticket if he did this. Most americans are sick of partisan politics getting in the way of solving problems facing the country.

 
Shrugging Atlas 2008-01-12 07:38:54 PM  
EwoksSuck: Most americans are sick of partisan politics getting in the way of solving problems facing the country.

Unfortunately, it would seem most citezens of New Hampshire are not.

/moderate Republican voting for Obama assuming I'm given the chance to do so

 
captainassface 2008-01-12 07:46:34 PM  
I had a dream the other night that included Team Fortress 2 and Barack Obama.

I was in the enemy's basement trying to steal their intelligence. A spy (on my team) was ahead of me, zapping the enemies sentries, which allowed me to get past their defenses. When the anonymous, supporting spy turned around, he had a cut-out mask of Barack Obama on his face.

Was my dream trying to tell me that Barack Obama is a back-stabbing spy? Or someone who could get past the barriers and road-blocks, and as affect, helping me go further in life as well?

img.photobucket.com

 
jake3988 2008-01-12 07:50:20 PM  
Holy shiat. A republican? From South Carolina? Endorsing a BLACK democrat?

Do you have any idea how crazy that is? That's like someone from Alabama saying they'll vote for Hillary.

 
globalwarmingpraiser [TotalFark] 2008-01-12 08:04:37 PM  
Recall all Repuglikkkans: globalwarmingpraiser: And he speaks proper english. He isn't Black Aks Al Sharpton.

And that's not racist. Who are you to claim that how African-Americans speak is not proper? Slang is a part of American lexicon and African-Americans are simply speaking the next American dialect.


OK Recall I neither want my brain surgeon Saying Either

We' re gonna saw the top yo head and root aroun in there with a stick

nor

Hes what we's gon do, lemme ax you lergic to nethin.

Sorry but I expect someone educated to act like they are educated. I know it is horrible but I say the same thing about Bush.
Does that mean I don't like rednecks?

 
exparrot 2008-01-12 10:12:18 PM  
but first...a number.

/obscure?

 
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