Submitter: Hillary Clinton reveals plan to stimulate the economy. Submitter frankly doesn't need a mental image of her stimulating anything but here, let it burn into your mind for a bit

Or revealing anything, for that matter.

$110b? what is that, like three days of the "war on terra?"

Dude....mindbleach, please.

- Providing $5 billion in energy efficiency by doing such things as giving tax credits to encourage purchases of low emission vehicles and efficient appliances windows and other clean technologies. She also proposes funds to train and put to work people making public buildings more energy efficient.

fark you Hillary Clinton. Why don't you give us some money for our mass transit systems instead of dedicating cash to a bunch of Starbucks liberals who want to drive Priuses for the sake of keeping up with the Gores? Christ, if every city had a cheap train and bus system, you could cut down emissions BIG time. But no-o-o, that doesn't go over well with your suburban housewives who want their fancy-dan hybrid SUVs.

Hillary makes me feel funny down there.

/down there = anal sphincter
//this is not meant as a compliment

Shaggy_C:
fark you Hillary Clinton. Why don't you give us some money for our mass transit systems instead of dedicating cash to a bunch of Starbucks liberals who want to drive Priuses for the sake of keeping up with the Gores? Christ, if every city had a cheap train and bus system, you could cut down emissions BIG time. But no-o-o, that doesn't go over well with your suburban housewives who want their fancy-dan hybrid SUVs.

You've already started drinking, haven't you? Thanks for reminding me :)

::runs to store::

Yeah well Bill Clinton caved into big business and Republicans when he signed NAFTA into to law and destroyed a lot of US jobs in the process. Bill signed welfare reform into law and the number of people living in poverty in the US has gone up ever since. Now Hillary says she wants to go back the Clinton days. Hillary says she is an experienced agent of change. She can have the Clinton days of triangulating and caving into the right wing's policy agenda to save their asses politically until the next election. OBAMA '08!

Hilly Clinton will striaght up lose this election.

If she is nominated, I give up on the democrats. farking hell.

EwoksSuck: Yeah well Bill Clinton caved into big business and Republicans when he signed NAFTA into to law and destroyed a lot of US jobs in the process. Bill signed welfare reform into law and the number of people living in poverty in the US has gone up ever since. Now Hillary says she wants to go back the Clinton days. Hillary says she is an experienced agent of change. She can have the Clinton days of triangulating and caving into the right wing's policy agenda to save their asses politically until the next election. OBAMA '08!

You guys really confuse me. Does the right-wing conspiracy work for or against Hillary? It seems to change every day.

EwoksSuck: Yeah well Bill Clinton caved into big business and Republicans when he signed NAFTA into to law and destroyed a lot of US jobs in the process

Uh, Bush signed NAFTA in 1992, dude. Clinton had nothing to do with it.

Treygreen13: EwoksSuck: Yeah well Bill Clinton caved into big business and Republicans when he signed NAFTA into to law and destroyed a lot of US jobs in the process. Bill signed welfare reform into law and the number of people living in poverty in the US has gone up ever since. Now Hillary says she wants to go back the Clinton days. Hillary says she is an experienced agent of change. She can have the Clinton days of triangulating and caving into the right wing's policy agenda to save their asses politically until the next election. OBAMA '08!

You guys really confuse me. Does the right-wing conspiracy work for or against Hillary? It seems to change every day.

There's no conspiracy about it. Bill and Hill were in trouble politically because Bill got caught with his pants down so they do what they always do when they are in trouble politically...they sell out their principles, forget the working/poor people Hillary claims she's been fighting for all these years and triangulate their way towards implmenting bad policies like NAFTA and welfare reform. What's good experience if it leads to bad policy? If we all want policies like NAFTA and welfare reform we might as well vote Republican. People on the right like to label Hillary a liberal but the truth is the Bill/Hillary administration was the in practical effect the most successful Republican administration since Reagan in terms of passing policy that harmed working/poor people.

FDR had a plan too, which turned a recession into a decade long depression. No thank you, Hillary.

40below: EwoksSuck: Yeah well Bill Clinton caved into big business and Republicans when he signed NAFTA into to law and destroyed a lot of US jobs in the process

Uh, Bush signed NAFTA in 1992, dude. Clinton had nothing to do with it.

No you are wrong. Bush signed the agreement with other members of the NAFTA. Bill Clinton pushed Congress to pass legistation for the ratification of NAFTA to become the law of the land and signed it in 1993.

NAFTA was initially pursued by corporate interest in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and the Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The three countries signed NAFTA in December 1992, subject to ratification by the legislatures of the three countries. There was considerable opposition in all three countries, especially among intellectuals who stated that it was an ill-conceived initiative. In the United States, NAFTA was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative priority in 1993. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with the aforementioned NAAEC and NAALC. After intense political debate and the negotiation of these side agreements, the U.S. House passed NAFTA by 234-200 (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor, 156 Democrats, 43 Republicans, and 1 independent against),[7] and the U.S. Senate passed it by 61-38. - Source

EwoksSuck: Treygreen13: EwoksSuck: Yeah well Bill Clinton caved into big business and Republicans when he signed NAFTA into to law and destroyed a lot of US jobs in the process. Bill signed welfare reform into law and the number of people living in poverty in the US has gone up ever since. Now Hillary says she wants to go back the Clinton days. Hillary says she is an experienced agent of change. She can have the Clinton days of triangulating and caving into the right wing's policy agenda to save their asses politically until the next election. OBAMA '08!

You guys really confuse me. Does the right-wing conspiracy work for or against Hillary? It seems to change every day.

There's no conspiracy about it. Bill and Hill were in trouble politically because Bill got caught with his pants down so they do what they always do when they are in trouble politically...they sell out their principles, forget the working/poor people Hillary claims she's been fighting for all these years and triangulate their way towards implmenting bad policies like NAFTA and welfare reform. What's good experience if it leads to bad policy? If we all want policies like NAFTA and welfare reform we might as well vote Republican. People on the right like to label Hillary a liberal but the truth is the Bill/Hillary administration was the in practical effect the most successful Republican administration since Reagan in terms of passing policy that harmed working/poor people.

Isn't she just restating what laws currently exist? You can already get tax writeoffs for insulating and getting better windows for your home. Okay, the unemployment benefit extension is necessary but would have to be done anyway unless you want more houses on the market as is.

Plus, if everybody middle-class down is feeling the crunch, then how is spending more money you don't have on a hybrid going to help anything? There are no long-term solutions here. There is nothing that really does anything here. Hello? These are not real solutions. These are band-aids at a time where we cannot afford any more platitudes here.

Give us some real solutions here, Hillary.

That's the face you will be making if she gets elected or more likely a Republican beats her in November. The Clintons only care about one thing their own political survival and winning the next election. They will always sell out on everything else.

New yorker, kick, replies.

Giving money to people who are poor is great, whatever, help your brothers. Fine. Where's the money coming from? Taxes. Here's a freaking clue, illary. Cut the crap out of the government first so you won't have to tax the crap out of us...so you won't have to have economic stimulus packages. Eugh. It's a whole pretzel more complicated that FSM's bunghole of robbing peter to pay paul and it's so wasteful and beaurocratic. I hate New York politics.

Stop taking our money and then acting so damn sanctimonious when you pretend to give it back to people and end up either not doing the program or burying it in red tape.

Shaggy_C: - Providing $5 billion in energy efficiency by doing such things as giving tax credits to encourage purchases of low emission vehicles and efficient appliances windows and other clean technologies. She also proposes funds to train and put to work people making public buildings more energy efficient.

fark you Hillary Clinton. Why don't you give us some money for our mass transit systems instead of dedicating cash to a bunch of Starbucks liberals who want to drive Priuses for the sake of keeping up with the Gores? Christ, if every city had a cheap train and bus system, you could cut down emissions BIG time. But no-o-o, that doesn't go over well with your suburban housewives who want their fancy-dan hybrid SUVs.

i think both would work well together, seeing as some places just weren't designed with mass transit in mind and retrofitting them with some sort of infrastructure would be a big ordeal but you're right that we should be doing that anywhere we can.

Thanks for the headline, subby. Now I want to claw out my brain.

anyone got a home lobotomy kit I can borrow?