Once again Fark is ahead of the curve. We've been talking about this for months and CNN is just now getting around to it.

This doesn't change my opinion of RP, I wasn't gonna vote for him anyway. But, if nothing else, it shows bad judgment in allowing his name to be on newsletters he doesn't even bother to read.

He is so irrelevant now that it doesn't matter

His supporters have already shown a willingness to disregard any facts concerning their candidate that don't fit in with their idealized view of him. They'll spin this however they can to convince themselves that he's not some paranoid wacko and then go around feeling smug about themselves.

I predict they'll switch their votes to that other guy who wants to cut spending and refrain from invading other countries.

Ron Paul's message attracts some seriously weird people. No doubt.

Ron Paul is a busy guy, but he should have known better than to let an aide run a newsletter in his name. Or, at least he should have delegated oversight of the newsletter to someone he could trust.

Ron Paul is not racist at all that I can detect, but a lot of his supporters ARE. So what?

Every day to work I drive by a house with 3 huge Ron Paul signs in the yard and a "Don't tread on me" flag on a flagpole. I have seriously thought of finding another route to drive to work

swahnhennessy: His supporters have already shown a willingness to disregard any facts concerning their candidate that don't fit in with their idealized view of him. They'll spin this however they can to convince themselves that he's not some paranoid wacko and then go around feeling smug about themselves.

In a thread the other day (too lazy to look it up) I saw a supporter say something to the effect of "Ron Paul may be racist in his mind, but he's never acted on it. So it's ok."

swahnhennessy: They'll spin this however they can to convince themselves that he's not some paranoid wacko and then go around feeling smug about themselves.


Jesus... You are more dellusional than any Ron Paul supporter I've ever met.


Before anyone else starts pretending like they have an intimate understanding of the mentality of the average Ron Paul supporter, why not listen to his response to the attacks?

Wolf Blitzer interviews Ron Paul regarding racist statments Pt 1 (new window)

Pt 2 (new window)

He admits it himself, it was a mistake to not have supervised what was being written in those newsletters. He also outright denies being a racist.

DNRTFA - Just wanted to say +1 Subby for the headline.

I Lol'd.

Newsletters were like blogs that were printed on paper and then physically delivered by the postal service, sometimes by horse


And later by auto-gyro.

Jaykzo: He admits it himself, it was a mistake to not have supervised what was being written in those newsletters. He also outright denies being a racist.

Goddamn, you are gullible.

The natives called corn "maze" because they were often lost in the corn fields.

Ron Paul is a douche anyway. Most of his vocal supporters are bucketheads, who behave very much like cultists when challenged in any way with facts.

Ron Paul is going to end up being the 3rd guy in the race; the Ross Perot who will throw off the votes for x candidate...

From one of those members of the frowning black community, posted on the TNR blog:

I'm a black guy. I'm having trouble determining which candidate to support. Should I support one who advocates dismantling the single largest institutionally racist program that has oppressed African Americans (hint: its initials are WOD), but who may have had an employee or two who wrote some stupid things twenty years ago that should have been edited? Or should I support the candidate(s) who pose with the working class black mom, may play a jazz instrument (ooo, how "black" of them), and yet advocates (explicitly or passively) the continued incarceration of hundreds of thousands of non-violent young black men? Hmm, tough call. What do you think I should do, TNR? You seem to have a real deep understanding of modern racial sociopolitical issues.

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We have to keep Ron Paul down. He's the only one that won't continually escalate the war on drugs, and that means if he's elected there will be more black people stealing jobs from white union members. And, God forbid, they might stay out of jail and be able to keep their voting rights!

Shaggy_C

I don't normally agree with you on... anything... but that was funny. They look like the batteries on their collective vibrator just died.

The truth hurts

even more of a reason to vote for him

What a freaking idiotic...nevermind.

Yeah, calling criminals (carjackers) and more criminals (looters and rioters) "animals" is really a stretch, isn't it?

Seriously, if that's the best they can come up with from 20 years of newsletters, move on to something interesting.

Why do Ron Paul supporters insist on putting his campaign stickers, banners, and spray painted crap all over the place? It's almost like saying "if you support litter, support Ron Paul."

swahnhennessy: Jaykzo: He admits it himself, it was a mistake to not have supervised what was being written in those newsletters. He also outright denies being a racist.

Goddamn, you are gullible.

Actually, it is you who are gullible. Drink the kool aid and kiss your constitution goodbye.

Thank you for assisting in the destruction of this nation by closing your eyes and ears and relying upon mouthpieces to tell you how to think. There is a link posted above...he has clearly denied it. And if you had the integrity to investigate these sorts of things on your own, you'd realize, after hearing the man's own words and commentary, just how obscenely ridiculous and totally outside of his character these false allegations are.

The man is not a racist, but I suspect those who are effectively assassinating his character probably are.

What was racist about those newsletters. The excerpts I saw stated the truth. Is it racist to tell the truth about black people? And BTW, the riot in LA in 1992 did end when blacks had to go pickup their welfare checks. I'm old enough to have paid attention at the time and remember it.

It's a shame that this debunked story is still floating about. It's interesting that they never mention that Ron Paul wanted Walter Williams, a black economist, as a running mate.

It doesn't really matter though because the supporters of outsider candidates are usually well informed and outsiders don't have a legitimate shot at the Presidency anyway. Those who want a reason to dislike Paul will find any reason. Same goes for any outsider that sparks a movement.

If Huckabee gains true traction, just watch what happens.

KIA: Yeah, calling criminals (carjackers) and more criminals (looters and rioters) "animals" is really a stretch, isn't it?

You're deliberately not getting it. How Paulist of you.

cashed: The riots during that time were nothing more than a bunch of criminals trying to turn LA into a besieged African state.

Lies. Bradley Nowell, for instance, was trying to get a new PA system.

Suicidal Writer Quote 2008-01-11 12:55:53 PM
It's a shame that this debunked story is still floating about.

This story wasn't "debunked" at all. Racist comments printed in Ron Paul newsletter were found and Ron Paul even agreed they were real.

The story was CONFIRMED, not debunked.

Just because Ron Paul has CLAIMED that he didn't write them (I tend to believe him, but either way) doesn't debunk the story at all.

OK, lest say that he did not write them nor reviewed them. This is a huge stretch, but go with me.

The person writing the article was clearly a hood-wearing racist. This printed diatribe cannot be the first evidence of that so RP should have seen this coming.

The person writing the article felt comfortable enough in his/her close understanding of RP that attributing these remarks to RP were highly acceptable.

If RP did not pen the articles in question, he and the writer were aware of each others penchant for extreme racism.

Delude yourself all you want - he is a racist. Oh, and the "did not act on it" crowd, neither did Imus or the Comedian Richardson.

You motherfarkers just watch, Ron Paul is going to win in NH and everything is going to change.

What? He already lost? Well shiat.

You motherfarkers just watch, Ron Paul is going to win in MI and everything is going to change.

I always love that defense "I'm not suchandsuch, I'm just too incompetent to monitor the activity of my campaign for years on end."

Suicidal Writer: It's a shame that this debunked story is still floating about. It's interesting that they never mention that Ron Paul wanted Walter Williams, a black economist, as a running mate.

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Old news. Thanks for bringing this up now, CNN.

I'm shocked. I always thought Mr. Paul was a staunch supporter of the black and gay communities.

Rapmaster2000: Why do Ron Paul supporters insist on putting his campaign stickers, banners, and spray painted crap all over the place? It's almost like saying "if you support litter, support Ron Paul."

They're definitely a DIY kind of crowd.

This news is so old, so recycled, so much of a dead horse.

Anyone who does any research on Ron Paul will know he has worked to end racism both in and outside of government. The Paul-haters need to let it go and return to talking about the issues at hand. He never was a racist, end of story.

X-boxershorts: Actually, it is you who are gullible. Drink the kool aid and kiss your constitution goodbye.

Thank you for assisting in the destruction of this nation by closing your eyes and ears and relying upon mouthpieces to tell you how to think. There is a link posted above...he has clearly denied it. And if you had the integrity to investigate these sorts of things on your own, you'd realize, after hearing the man's own words and commentary, just how obscenely ridiculous and totally outside of his character these false allegations are.

The man is not a racist, but I suspect those who are effectively assassinating his character probably are.


Damn, your post had me on the edge of my seat. I waited and waited, but alas, you forgot to post the link to "Loose Change."

fosborb: cashed: The riots during that time were nothing more than a bunch of criminals trying to turn LA into a besieged African state.

Lies. Bradley Nowell, for instance, was trying to get a new PA system.

HA

Donald_McRonald: Rapmaster2000: Why do Ron Paul supporters insist on putting his campaign stickers, banners, and spray painted crap all over the place? It's almost like saying "if you support litter, support Ron Paul."

They're definitely a DIY kind of crowd.

I see these a lot too. What's up with the "Love" thing. I don't get it.

You guys are pathetic...

You guys don't have the balls to try and argue the points, so you bring up something from 18 years ago written by someone else who liked Paul in order to what?? To what? What are you trying to say?

Guilt by association? Please, let's go down the list of insane people supporting pretty much every other candidate. You Obama supporters all love Oprah Winfrey? You think it's cool that he is being supported by a woman who has promoted plagerism for profit?

How about Hillary... let's dive back into Whitewater and all the "mysterious" deaths surrounding her. How about McCain and his willingness to stay in Iraq for "100 more years" if necessary.

Please tell me who you are voting for and why. Quit buying into the propaganda and open your freeking eyes for a change.

He's iNsAnE??? really? Please explain why he's insane.

All you establishment hacks are showing your true colors. One minute you complain about Bush and the war, the next you repeat MSM talking points about the ONE MAN that is standing up to the political elites in this country. Like him or not, he's the only one being honest in this race. That's just a fact.

The other 5 morans on stage at the Fox debate last night actually said that we were not heading into a recession. Do you believe that? The other 5 morans all said that they will continue on in Iraq and hinted at expanding the war even more. Do you agree with that?

Except for Kucinich, the Dems are saying the same thing.

All you Farkers whining about Bush for the last 7 years, now you are just content to replace him with a clone.

Wake up.

Anyone who does any research on Ron Paul will know he has worked to end racism both in and outside of government. The Paul-haters need to let it go and return to talking about the issues at hand. He never was a racist, end of story.
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Yet he claimed just a few weeks ago he would not have approved the civil rights act of 1963 (I think that's the year), which was a pretty influencial act.

There's no hate like conservative hate.

/what happened to afternoon_dumbass?
//deliver my cartoon, biatch!

It just means that the Bushiate branch of the GOP is getting more and more worried about the very real problems in the campaign of their boy Romney. I can't wait for the similar hit piece TNR's gonna gin up about Huckleberry. They won't do it to McCain, though; the POW stuff makes this kind of smear too unpalatable to too much of the electorate.

/Still votin' for Paul in the primary
//Not the man, the message

Jaykzo:
He admits it himself, it was a mistake to not have supervised what was being written in those newsletters. He also outright denies being a racist.

He admits it after being confronted with it. And obviously he's telling the truth about not being a racist. otherwise, why would he say it. It's not like politicians lie to tell you what you want to here.

For me, the biggest concern is that while he may not be a racist, he certainly surrounds himself with racists. And lets them write his newsletters.

I apologize for Godwinning this thread, but it's the equivalent of saying, he's not a Nazi, but he is a willing collaborator.

I was going to vote for him until I realized I had him confused with Ron Popeil.

/"Hey, good looking, I'll be back to pick you up later. Broadcast your voice on any FM radio!!!"

"I must say I don't think there's an excuse in politics to have something go out under your name and say, 'Oh by the way, I didn't write that.'"
LOL.
Welcome to the internet age where anyone can do this without actually having to spend the money to print and mail it.

jake3988:

Yet he claimed just a few weeks ago he would not have approved the civil rights act of 1963 (I think that's the year), which was a pretty influencial act.

I am no Paul fan but many people were against the 63 CRA because it was/is unconstitutional.

Being only a quarter century old, I need some feedback from some of the more "distinguished" farkers... All these candidates incorporating their christian beliefs into their campaigns like Huckabee and Ron Paul, is this something thats just started happening in the last couple decades? I swear that 50 years ago this sort of thing didn't fly... but again, I wasn't there so i can't say. So have crazy "I'm a christian, vote for me" hopefuls been pretty prevailant throughout, or just recently?