Huckabee/Colbert vs Obama/Edwards

If Dems really wanna screw up the Republican delegates from Michigan, they'd vote Ron Paul.

IlGreven: If Dems really wanna screw up the Republican delegates from Michigan, they'd vote Ron Paul.

that's my plan.

I just realized how lame the dem ticket is here in michigan.
I guess I'm voting paul.

the primary move was dumb.

unexplained bacon:
the primary move was dumb.

That's the truth. It's a shame we can't go to the poll and say "I want this candidate and NOT that candidate". Instead we have to put down 'uncommitted'. What the heck? I'm not uncommitted, I know who I want to vote for.

Do not want. Just let the guy fail and let him drop out please.

I'm your Huckabee.

nope - most people who support obama / edwards are voting uncommitted. assuming they heard about it. but its been all over the news, etc...

If Huckabee gets the nomination, the Dems will be able to beat him with a ticket of Cynthia McKinney and Jello Biafra.

I really expect Paul to get a lot of the votes here in southern MI. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he won my county.

Teve_Torbes: I really expect Paul to get a lot of the votes here in southern MI. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he won my county.

Ottawa County?

The primary move wasn't dumb, it was the right thing to do.

Who cares about your delegates if you don't get to vote until after the nominee is selected?

I wish a lot more states would do it so we could break the primary system and build one that works.

Snoogit: Teve_Torbes: I really expect Paul to get a lot of the votes here in southern MI. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he won my county.

Ottawa County?

No, no...much worse.

Hillsdale.

I thought the consensus "screw the GOP" pick was Romney? These guys need to get their anti- voting strategy together or it will totally backfire when McCain wins.

Sorry, I was out of the country. Could someone please explain how Clinton (but not Edwards or Obama) ended up on the primary ballot?

And does anyone really believe that the DNC won't allow those delegates to sit if Hillary needs them come convention time?

My Dem friends in Michigan and I are planning to fark with things by voting for Paul. I don't want to encourage Huckabee at all. I'd like to force places like Fox to have to acknowledge Paul's existence by helping him get into the top two or three here.

A Democratic rep was on NPR the other day and said write-in votes wouldn't even be counted, so there's no benefit to writing in a Dem I prefer to Clinton. He suggested we all vote for unaffiliated delegates who might(or might not) get to join the other delegates at the Democratic convention, but it sounded very weak. More fun to push an anti-Iraq war Republican ahead.

T-Servo: Sorry, I was out of the country. Could someone please explain how Clinton (but not Edwards or Obama) ended up on the primary ballot?

They withdrew their name after the DNC said they weren't going to seat the delegates. It was basically a way to appease Iowa and NH. Clinton didn't withdraw her name, but wont step foot in the state, or run an ad.

I do think the DNC will seat the delegates if Clinton needs the votes though.

bitteroldman

After living here in AR for a couple of years, please allow me to correct the Huckleberry Hound text:

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See, this here is my little 'ol plan. They got this new fangled gadget. It's call the Internet. Now on this here internet they got this here thing called the YouTube.

I'm fixin to get me a video on the YouTube and whilst I'm a talkin', this here cross is gonna float behind ma head.
----

Unfortunately it's a little difficult to communicate how they mangle dipthongs and convert them into different syllables out here. They "hay'ed" instead of "head" and "stay'airs" instead of "stairs".

Amadour1: A Democratic rep was on NPR the other day and said write-in votes wouldn't even be counted, so there's no benefit to writing in a Dem I prefer to Clinton.

Write in votes are counted, but teh candidate had to register as a write-in candidate, which neither Edwards or Obama did.

raanne: T-Servo: Sorry, I was out of the country. Could someone please explain how Clinton (but not Edwards or Obama) ended up on the primary ballot?

They withdrew their name after the DNC said they weren't going to seat the delegates. It was basically a way to appease Iowa and NH. Clinton didn't withdraw her name, but wont step foot in the state, or run an ad.

I do think the DNC will seat the delegates if Clinton needs the votes though.

Gee.

This Democracy in America thing didn't last very long did it?

Well, at least we had a nice run for about 175 years or so.

I_Lost_My_Other_Username: Huckabee/Colbert vs Obama/Edwards

That set of VP selections would really make me rethink the viability of both a Huckabee and an Obama administration, albeit in opposite directions.

Farkof40000Years:
If Huckabee gets the nomination, the Dems will be able to beat him with a ticket of Cynthia McKinney and Jello Biafra.

You, sir, have started my morning right.

Turnabout's fair play; isn't this how Kerry got the nod in 2004? A bunch of Republicans switching sides to vote for a douchenozzle?

equilibrium

Dude, you live in NWA. That explains it completely

That area's considered redneck central and a total embarrassment to those of us who live in civilization (Pulaski County).

Why the heck isn't Obama competing in Michigan? That seems insane. Anyone got anything on that?

Funny, I live in Michigan and I was just sent an e-mail telling me to cross over parties and vote for Romney. Man they can't even get their sabotage right.

PlasticMoby: Dude, you live in NWA...redneck central and a total embarrassment to those of us who live in civilization

reilmb: Why the heck isn't Obama competing in Michigan? That seems insane. Anyone got anything on that?

Delegates won't count because the Democratic party is mad at Michigan for moving up its primary day. Obama and Edwards stood with the DNC, Hillary needs another win bad enough she doesn't care, and Kuchinich and Gravel need attention.

Kos has backed Romney, because if Romney doesn't win Michigan- win it- he's out. Romney stays in, chaos is prolonged.

/how is "Uncommitted" letting my voice be heard?

I didn't rtfa, but if dems are voting huckabee because he's unelectable, they're deluded. If they're voting for him because they think he's anti-business, they're right on the money.

Bairon: reilmb: Why the heck isn't Obama competing in Michigan? That seems insane. Anyone got anything on that?

Delegates won't count because the Democratic party is mad at Michigan for moving up its primary day. Obama and Edwards stood with the DNC, Hillary needs another win bad enough she doesn't care, and Kuchinich and Gravel need attention.

I don't think Hillary needs a win that badly. She's losing in SC, but all of the other big states coming up are hers based on the latest polls I saw. CA, FL, PA, NJ.. all big states.

CNN reports stunning victory by Clinton in Michigan, DNC reverses decision on delegates. "We have to let democracy flourish," claims former president (0)

blackminded: /how is "Uncommitted" letting my voice be heard?

if more than 15% of people vote "uncommitted" it sends unaffiliated delegates, who will vote based on a later michigan democratic party vote that will include edwards and obama. unfortunately you need to be a registered democratic party memeber to vote in that one. (i'm not sure how it works).

Anyway - all i know is it will take delegates *away* from Clinton.

/i guess none of it really matters if the delegates dont vote at the DNC anyway.

(oh, and hi blackminded - i always see you on the detroit & michigan threads)

raanne: blackminded: /how is "Uncommitted" letting my voice be heard?

if more than 15% of people vote "uncommitted" it sends unaffiliated delegates, who will vote based on a later michigan democratic party vote that will include edwards and obama. unfortunately you need to be a registered democratic party memeber to vote in that one.

Anyway - all i know is it will take delegates *away* from Clinton.


You've got it mostly right:

If "uncommitted" gets at least 15% of the vote, there will be one or more delegates elected at the Congressional District Convention which will take place on March 29th, 2008.

At that time the race will probably be over, so it won't necessarily take delegates away from Hillary, it just prevents her from getting them now. Of course, they're not supposed to count anyway, so all bets are off.

For me, the Dem primary is such a clusterfruk that I'm voting for Huck in the GOP primary. And I'm a Hillary supporter.

Not counting write-in choices if they were not "pre-approved" by some bureaucracy is horrible.

That is all I have to say about this.

IlGreven: If Dems really wanna screw up the Republican delegates from Michigan, they'd vote Ron Paul.

That's exactly what I'm going to do. Imagine the confusion if Ron Paul ended up winning Michigan.

jackc126: That is all I have to say about this.

Yep, that pic sums up how voters are seen pretty well.

/guess I lied a lil too :)

jackc126: Not counting write-in choices if they were not "pre-approved" by some bureaucracy is horrible.

What would you do if everyone wrote your name in though? Its not a pre-approved thing - you just have to say that you accept it if people write your name in.

/the whole thing is farked up tho - yeah democracy! or yeah republics, i guess!

MugzyBrown:

I don't think Hillary needs a win that badly. She's losing in SC, but all of the other big states coming up are hers based on the latest polls I saw. CA, FL, PA, NJ.. all big states.

I agree, but a win is a win, and it would be nice for her to have more momentum coming into Nevada and the big states ahead. A win always equals more money, and they all love money.
Basically she is still on the allot because her and Howard Dean are not the best of friends, so she is doing it for spite a little I think.
Thanks for the input!

Bairon

MugzyBrown: Bairon: reilmb: Why the heck isn't Obama competing in Michigan? That seems insane. Anyone got anything on that?

Delegates won't count because the Democratic party is mad at Michigan for moving up its primary day. Obama and Edwards stood with the DNC, Hillary needs another win bad enough she doesn't care, and Kuchinich and Gravel need attention.

I don't think Hillary needs a win that badly. She's losing in SC, but all of the other big states coming up are hers based on the latest polls I saw. CA, FL, PA, NJ.. all big states.

florida is in the same boat as michigan.

raanne: jackc126: Not counting write-in choices if they were not "pre-approved" by some bureaucracy is horrible.

What would you do if everyone wrote your name in though? Its not a pre-approved thing - you just have to say that you accept it if people write your name in.

/the whole thing is farked up tho - yeah democracy! or yeah republics, i guess!

There is no law (yet) against resigning (or just refusing to get sworn in) if such an unwilling write-in candidate were to get elected. :)

Under this current design, the whole notion of a write-in campaign is meaningless in Michigan.

I agree.. Dumb move by Michigan (if youre going to try and make yourself more relevant move yourself in front of Iowa)

I'll be voting Ron Paul

/Saginaw, MI

I just can't bring myself to lathe Huckabee. I mean creationists piss me off, but he is such a nice guy. I would never vote for Hillary Clinton. If she is the nominee, I can see myself voting for Huckabee. I am a supporter of the FairTax so it would be a net gain. He isn't a "huckster" like Bush, he is a genuine Christian conservative that cares about the country.

Suicidal Writer: I just can't bring myself to lathe Huckabee. I mean creationists piss me off, but he is such a nice guy. I would never vote for Hillary Clinton. If she is the nominee, I can see myself voting for Huckabee. I am a supporter of the FairTax so it would be a net gain. He isn't a "huckster" like Bush, he is a genuine Christian conservative that cares about the country.

Yeah, he's not a douchebag, but I still would never vote for him. I don't think the "FairTax" is either doable or fair, but I think Huckabee's a good guy. I find it funny that he is probably the closest thing to a "compassionate conservative," but the GOP is working hard to destroy him because of it.