Maybe instead of forcing ignorance they should accept that people may have different or correct points of view and defend their views at that point.

All of the above. It's nice to know we are doing all we can to make sure our precious little crotchfruit are even less prepared for college.

'We're opposed to teaching evolution as a fact'

But it's only a theory.

And who wants to start a pool on when BEVETS Boobies?

FTFA: Darwin's theory, up in Taylor County, population 20,000, only rates the pedestrian meaning: unproven speculation

Because the Bible is the correct version of events, right?

Well God forbid we present multiple viewpoints and let kids choose for themselves what makes more sense. I'll never forget my freshman English class studying mythology - the first thing we read: Genesis Chapter I. Thanks Mr. Potter.

OK, now I know what that filter is. Lets try BEVETS Boobiess

Oh to hell with it

Asclepius: Because the Bible is the correct version of events, right?

My favorite response is "Well, I know the Bible is right because the Bible says so!"

You've been here since 04 baka-san and you're just noticing that filter. Wow. BTW have you seen that new badger, badger badger song or the dancing baby on the internet?

There should be an "End Of America" tag for stories like this one.

Well, at least future graduates will still know how to call overseas for tech support when the 'scary technology Jesus forgot to mention in the Bible' stops working.

I used to love this country, but we are asking to be passed by as time goes by.

Really, ignorance is a right. So these kids will never be researchers at St. Jude's Hospital. We can get all the talent we want from China and India.

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baka-san: OK, now I know what that filter is. Lets try BEVETS Boobiess

Pwnd by the filter on his Boobies
Like an unexpected pearl necklace

Fine with me. Regardless of what the schools are teaching in her biology classes, my daughter will understand the concept of evolution. And the Big Bang. Etc. Then she will be set rule theses primordial morans produced by Florida.

Asinine, Dumbass, Florida, Sad, Scary, Silly, or Stupid

how about just an [AMERICA] tag? wouldn't that cover it?

Code_Archeologist: Pwnd by the filter on his Boobies
Like an unexpected pearl necklace

or a attractive and successful African-American on skates

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: Really, ignorance is a right.

I will give you that... but inflicting ignorance on your children should be considered abuse.

I really don't get this. The science curriculum consists of kids being taught FACTS. There are many FACTS within evolution to be taught. What FACTS within ID or creationism are there to be taught?

What year is this? How is this still an issue in America? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

It's bad enough people want ID taught on equal footing with Evolution in a science class. Leave it to Florida to out-nut Kansas and toss out Evolution altogether.

Code_Archeologist:

I will give you that... but inflicting ignorance on your children should be considered abuse.

Even the KKKers cannot be prohibited from inculcating their kids with hatred and so on. There may be nothing we can do.

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I'm pretty tight with a fundy (of the non-anal variety) who teaches K-5. Even she thinks this is stupid and dangerous.

I didn't know what that filter was for, know some of the other ones.

Diogenes: I'm pretty tight with a fundy (of the non-anal variety)

so, is she an Oral Fundy?

Many people, myself included, are still very bitter about having religion crammed down our throats. To this day I refuse to go to church, or as I like to call it "the cult."

Car_Ramrod: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

THIS

Diogenes: Leave it to Florida to out-nut Kansas and toss out Evolution altogether

i'm pretty sure the supreme court will step in and fix this.

this is just small minded people trying to exert some of what's left of their waning power

Isotope: Fine with me. Regardless of what the schools are teaching in her biology classes, my daughter will understand the concept of evolution. And the Big Bang. Etc. Then she will be set rule theses primordial morans produced by Florida.

Unfortunately, the ignorant masses are the ones popping out more kids, and thus they will continue to be in the majority. This brain-dead majority won't allow your daughter in any positions of power because she doesn't base her entire life around religion.

I mean, Huckabee is a proud creationist, and he won the Iowa caucus. What the hell?

timmy_the_tooth: i'm pretty sure the supreme court will step in and fix this.

this is just small minded people trying to exert some of what's left of their waning power

You're right. But the fact that this debate has any traction is too frustrating. And in the meantime, kids are in academic lingo on the topic.

Well, if he isn't here yet. Lets just start without him.

Rules of atheism "Science":

Rule #1 God is IRRELEVANT
Rule #2 If God is relevant, see Rule #1
Rule #3 If God might be relevant, see Rule #1


Evolutionism is the tinfoil hat atheists wear to keep God out of their brainwaves.

We're one step closer to becoming the Holy Christian States of Jesusland.

Yay Jesus.

timmy_the_tooth: so, is she an Oral Fundy?

And yes. Yes she is. She fully admits she's "flawed."

/also friend with her boyfriend

Diogenes: You're right. But the fact that this debate has any traction is too frustrating. And in the meantime, kids are in academic lingo on the topic.

totally, dude, the fact that anyone can be swayed by the argument "it's just a theory" is all the evidence we need to prove that public education has failed in america.

5000_gallons_of_toothpaste: Well, if he isn't here yet. Lets just start without him.

Thank you for providing today's daily requirement of insane rambling.
It is truly appreciated.

Teach your children religion at church. Stay out of the science classes.

Is that so farking hard to understand?

5000_gallons_of_toothpaste

Well if we are starting without him...


Oh no, Bevets 5000_gallons_of_toothpaste has shown up. Guys, he is just a bot that posts semi-relevant quotes. Don't waste your time.

FTFA: Teach all theories of creation. Let the kids decide. As if biology were as subjective as philosophy.

This article encapsulates this debate more aptly than almost any other piece that I have ever read about this subject (and I have read quite a few). It will be forever impossible to settle this issue as long as evolution detractors refuse to understand what it is that they are against.

And the fact is that as long as these evolution detractors pursue their asinine position, the only people who get injured are the kids.

The people that are against evolution usually say things like "I'm not a descended from a monkey." They're actually offended at the idea.

Guess they've never been to a zoo. The monkey section is great. My favorite. I don't have a problem believing humans are primates. Makes perfect observational sense.

/opposable thumb FTW!

Born2late:

Autofellation is one monkey attribute I've always envied.

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Ahhh, so military enlistment will go up in Fla. That's just peachy!!!

So what's the compromise? It's obvious that an all-or-nothing mentality isn't working with this curriculum. So do we now need parental notes to teach the theory? What?

I'm against gravity, and anything else I cannot understand.

/Retort: I didn't come from no ape!
//Pure political issues make me chuckle

5000_gallons_of_toothpaste: Evolutionism is the tinfoil hat atheists wear to keep God out of their brainwaves.

Blessed are those who believe that.

It's sad really, but it's a vicious cycle. When parents were not taught properly in school or taught the wrong things, they refuse to seek the truth and pass on the ignorance and unwillingness to search out the truth to their children.

Jon Snow: Teach your children religion at church. Stay out of the science classes.

Is that so farking hard to understand?

Wait, what was the middle part again?

TheConvincingSavant: So what's the compromise? It's obvious that an all-or-nothing mentality isn't working with this curriculum. So do we now need parental notes to teach the theory? What?

Teach ID outside the context of science, since it's not a science. It's not even a theory. It's an explanatory framework, with the framework being provided by scripture.

Cosmology, World Cultures, whatever. Just not Biology.

FTA

Evolution, Lundy warned, would tear the Taylor public schools apart. 'The good people back home,' he worried, would have no choice but to pull their kids out of school.

Hey, that's cool with me. Our country needs more low-skilled workers to compete with the illegals.

Isn't this why people say we should keep the Department of Education? Because it stops things like this from happening?

What's that you say? It doesn't do anything of the sort? Bullocks!

Bevets quote mine: Give science a fact and it is invincible. But no one can guess more wildly than a scientist, when he has no compass but his imagination, and no purpose but to get away from God. Darwin uses the phrase "we may well suppose" 800 times and wins for himself a high place among the unconscious humorists by his efforts to explain things that are not true. Mr. Bryan on Evolution Reader's Digest August 1925

The number of occurrences of "we may well suppose" in The Origin of Species is zero. The number of suppose, supposed, supposedly, etc. is 130 and some of them refer to supposed creation. I have documented this any other fallacies of using this quote with full links and discussion of procedures at:

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3308887#c36725047
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Unless Bevets can find those 800 occurrences of "we may well suppose", I expect that Bevets will put a note in his page stating that what Bryan wrote was factually wrong along with acknowledgment of my post using to above link.

Diogenes: TheConvincingSavant: So what's the compromise? It's obvious that an all-or-nothing mentality isn't working with this curriculum. So do we now need parental notes to teach the theory? What?

Teach ID outside the context of science, since it's not a science. It's not even a theory. It's an explanatory framework, with the framework being provided by scripture.

Cosmology, World Cultures, whatever. Just not Biology.

Right. Take a creationist out in the woulds and ask him to identify ten species. Nobody who actually gives a shiat about living things believes in creationism.

No, it isn't "just a theory". GTFO.

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